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Nez Perces	Posted - 2005.11.19 01:25:00 - [31] Originally by: Raem Civrie Beats covering up perceived bad decisions by pointing to alliance mates and making a run for it. ZOINK! huh... what are you on about.. old dog, new tricks ...nah was never gonna happen... good to see you back where you belong..
Zangief Suikoi	Posted - 2005.11.19 01:53:00 - [32] Tbh everyones right we should get back off the subject of Levin as a person. The truth of his nature is already known to those that need to know it. Speaking frankly its horrible that with all your intelligent (Levin) that youve resorted and continue too on such low levels of tactics. The movie is meh. It wouldve been better if you had recorded it in its entirety but such is life. "We cant have everything we want." Minus the fact that he was in a npc setup, it looks like it was a fun fight all 'round.
pardux	Posted - 2005.11.19 01:58:00 - [33] Edited by: pardux on 19/11/2005 02:00:32 o_O fix still thinking he hacked the ts server? http://fbihawaii.ytmnd.com/
Zangief Suikoi	Posted - 2005.11.19 01:58:00 - [34] btw, you didnt mention. Who's bubble is that? Ours or yours? IF it was ours wheres the fleet that comes packaged with it? You do know that warp disruption bubbles come pre-packaged with the patented FIX BLOBÖ. p.s. My attorneys will be contacting you shortly on your blantant copy-right infringment of the FIX BLOBÖ.
Levin Cavil	Posted - 2005.11.19 02:03:00 - [35] Originally by: Zangief Suikoi btw, you didnt mention. Who's bubble is that? Ours or yours? IF it was ours wheres the fleet that comes packaged with it? You do know that warp disruption bubbles come pre-packaged with the patented FIX BLOBÖ. p.s. My attorneys will be contacting you shortly on your blantant copy-right infringment of the FIX BLOBÖ. It was FIX bubble but you've already got the FBI on my case as Pardux has so thoughtfully pointed out. Copyright infringement is the least of my concern. Currently Training: Suicidal Tendencies [Rank 8] 1,947,276/2,048,000 SP
KilROCK	Posted - 2005.11.19 02:33:00 - [36] Edited by: KilROCK on 19/11/2005 02:42:46 Edited by: KilROCK on 19/11/2005 02:37:01 Originally by: Levin Cavil Edited by: Levin Cavil on 19/11/2005 00:53:52 Originally by: KilROCK Well, As far as killing Fix goes, Finite horizon get their ass kicked multiple times per day. Just look at killboards, it's nothing impressive. Yes just look at the killboards According to the FIX board you have lost 9 fewer ships than FZN but killed less than half as many ships. C-F: 2.5:1 KDR vs. FIX FZN: 5.1:1 KDR vs. FIX Look at the time we've been at War with them and the time you been hunting in their region. A small difference that explains everything. Also, Fix doesn't post all of their losses, so looking at our contract page on CF killboard will show you how many ships we truely have lost to FIX Here's the 'real' stats. (some kills were not added on our killboard due to petitioned ship losses) Start date: 2005-09-26 End date: 2005-10-11 Kills: 307 Losses: 63 Damage done (ISK): 2489.33M Damage received (ISK): 639.61M Efficiency: 79.56% According to FIX killboard, you've been killing them for at least 2 months now, so that might explain why you have more kills when we did 307, in 2 weeks.
Levin Cavil	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:05:00 - [37] Edited by: Levin Cavil on 19/11/2005 04:09:15 Originally by: KilROCK Edited by: KilROCK on 19/11/2005 02:47:02 Originally by: Levin Cavil Edited by: Levin Cavil on 19/11/2005 00:53:52 Originally by: KilROCK Well, As far as killing Fix goes, Finite horizon get their ass kicked multiple times per day. Just look at killboards, it's nothing impressive. Yes just look at the killboards According to the FIX board you have lost 9 fewer ships than FZN but killed less than half as many ships. C-F: 2.5:1 KDR vs. FIX FZN: 5.1:1 KDR vs. FIX Look at the time we've been at War with them and the time you been hunting in their region. A small difference that explains everything. Also, Fix doesn't post all of their losses, so looking at our contract page on CF killboard will show you how many ships we truely have lost to FIX Here's the 'real' stats. (some kills were not added on our killboard due to petitioned ship losses) Start date: 2005-09-26 End date: 2005-10-11 Kills: 307 Losses: 63 Damage done (ISK): 2489.33M Damage received (ISK): 639.61M Efficiency: 79.56% According to FIX killboard, you've been killing them for at least 2 months now, so that might explain why you have more kills when we did 307, in 2 weeks. So in 2 weeks you lost as many ships as we lost in 3 months? I fail to see how this time difference explains anything beyond more kills. And even with your "petitioned losses" Your KDR is still worse than ours against FIX. C-F 307/63 = 4.87:1 KDR (according to C-F numbers) FZN 581/111 = 5.23:1 KDR (according to FIX KILLBOARD numbers) According to our own Killboard against the whole of eve (not just fix) we have 1234 kills/182 losses = 6.78:1 KDR (including pods) I fail to see how anyone in C-F can criticize anyone in FZN. Currently Training: Suicidal Tendencies [Rank 8] 1,947,276/2,048,000 SP
GFLTorque	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:16:00 - [38] Actually by FIX's own kill board our 17 man corp has killed almost 581 ships and lost about 111. Of those kills, nearly 100 (95) of the FIX losses are battleships. When FIX goes pop it seems the pods do too, with FIX having a staggering loss rate of nearly 40% pods killed for each ship loss. I don't care whom you are losing 4 of 10 clones aint good stats.
KilROCK	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:19:00 - [39] Well, I guess i kinda talked to quick judging from the Fix killboard alone, since i didn't know you guys had one. My bad.
Soros	Posted - 2005.11.19 10:29:00 - [40] Edited by: Soros on 19/11/2005 10:32:00 nice Dom guy could have just approaching the gate. 20minutes would be enough time to get there even at 10 m/s -= Soros =- C6
Nez Perces	Posted - 2005.11.19 10:39:00 - [41] Edited by: Nez Perces on 19/11/2005 10:39:36 Originally by: GFLTorque Actually by FIX's own kill board our 17 man corp has killed almost 581 ships and lost about 111. Of those kills, nearly 100 (95) of the FIX losses are battleships. When FIX goes pop it seems the pods do too, with FIX having a staggering loss rate of nearly 40% pods killed for each ship loss. I don't care whom you are losing 4 of 10 clones aint good stats. Putting stats into perspective.. 90% of your stats are ganks on lone pilots the other 10% are in actual fights, where we know for a fact you had a TS spy. Out of all the foes we have fought you are the least worthy. Enjoy your stats cause thats all you get out of FIX. Respect = 0.
whisk	Posted - 2005.11.19 10:45:00 - [42] All smacking aside, FZN are good at what they do simple as that. Parts of FIX may hate them and i'm sure parts of FZN hate fix but personaly i'm glad they are around, gives me something to do in the wee small hours. If FZN were to go head on with C-F, i'd have my money on FZN all day long. We've had better fights with you guys to make a video out of, where are all those?
Levin Cavil	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:06:00 - [43] Originally by: whisk All smacking aside, FZN are good at what they do simple as that. Parts of FIX may hate them and i'm sure parts of FZN hate fix but personaly i'm glad they are around, gives me something to do in the wee small hours. If FZN were to go head on with C-F, i'd have my money on FZN all day long. We've had better fights with you guys to make a video out of, where are all those? Im too lazy to make a good video. But I do have some neat fights, got a break coming up so maybe I'll spend some time on it then. Currently Training: Suicidal Tendencies [Rank 8] 1,947,276/2,048,000 SP
whisk	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:19:00 - [44] Originally by: Levin Cavil Originally by: whisk All smacking aside, FZN are good at what they do simple as that. Parts of FIX may hate them and i'm sure parts of FZN hate fix but personaly i'm glad they are around, gives me something to do in the wee small hours. If FZN were to go head on with C-F, i'd have my money on FZN all day long. We've had better fights with you guys to make a video out of, where are all those? Im too lazy to make a good video. But I do have some neat fights, got a break coming up so maybe I'll spend some time on it then. A break? dont go leaving us alone with ifni
Levin Cavil	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:36:00 - [45] Originally by: whisk Originally by: Levin Cavil Originally by: whisk All smacking aside, FZN are good at what they do simple as that. Parts of FIX may hate them and i'm sure parts of FZN hate fix but personaly i'm glad they are around, gives me something to do in the wee small hours. If FZN were to go head on with C-F, i'd have my money on FZN all day long. We've had better fights with you guys to make a video out of, where are all those? Im too lazy to make a good video. But I do have some neat fights, got a break coming up so maybe I'll spend some time on it then. A break? dont go leaving us alone with ifni A break from school meaning I have more time for Eve. Lock up your daughters FIX, Levin is on vaaacation. Currently Training: Suicidal Tendencies [Rank 8] 1,947,276/2,048,000 SP
Candy	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:40:00 - [46] Originally by: whisk All smacking aside, FZN are good at what they do simple as that. Parts of FIX may hate them and i'm sure parts of FZN hate fix but personaly i'm glad they are around, gives me something to do in the wee small hours. Get this man a round of Spiced Wine and put it on my tab. ----------------------------------------------
Aibee	Posted - 2005.11.19 13:24:00 - [47] I liked it.. havnt seen any scorp action in ages Gotta get a sig :/
PMolkenthin	Posted - 2005.11.19 16:41:00 - [48] Originally by: whisk All smacking aside, FZN are good at what they do simple as that. Parts of FIX may hate them and i'm sure parts of FZN hate fix but personaly i'm glad they are around, gives me something to do in the wee small hours. Well said. For me the presence of Finite Horizon makes FIX life very enjoyable. Although I am still fairly new to FIX and have very limited PVP experience, FZN's constant attacks on FIX space give me the oppurtunity to learn how to fight PVP stylee.
PMolkenthin	Posted - 2005.11.19 16:50:00 - [49] I would just like to add, after watching the video..... I would love to see more FZN footage, its always good to see a battle from the other side.
2600	Posted - 2005.11.19 16:53:00 - [50] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 19/11/2005 10:39:36 Originally by: GFLTorque Actually by FIX's own kill board our 17 man corp has killed almost 581 ships and lost about 111. Of those kills, nearly 100 (95) of the FIX losses are battleships. When FIX goes pop it seems the pods do too, with FIX having a staggering loss rate of nearly 40% pods killed for each ship loss. I don't care whom you are losing 4 of 10 clones aint good stats. Putting stats into perspective.. 90% of your stats are ganks on lone pilots the other 10% are in actual fights, where we know for a fact you had a TS spy. Out of all the foes we have fought you are the least worthy. Enjoy your stats cause thats all you get out of FIX. Respect = 0. Assuming that by "stats" you mean kills, damage to alliance morale, the recovery and liberation of numerous FIX assets, then yes, I'd say we are getting our money's worth out of FIX, just about every day. Nez, here's a clue: we aren't here for your respect. We're here to destroy your alliance, and have a good time doing it. Oh, and also your women and mead.
Nez Perces	Posted - 2005.11.19 18:33:00 - [51] Originally by: 2600 Nez, here's a clue: we aren't here for your respect. We're here to destroy your alliance, and have a good time doing it. ... yeah thats exactly what Burn Eden say...¦FZN the destroyers of alliances¦ ... dream on.
Tadis	Posted - 2005.11.19 19:11:00 - [52] Edited by: Tadis on 19/11/2005 19:11:35 Where there is no honour, there is nothing to respect. And like Nez says.... just a rain drop in the sea. In terms of the video. Poor quality but good footage of how to gank a npc'er who wasnt even fully equipped. Scorp ftw ^^
Ifni	Posted - 2005.11.19 20:35:00 - [53] Edited by: Ifni on 19/11/2005 20:38:24 I had made a post on the FIX Forums but Nez, I assume, was kind enough to ban me. Further to whisk's request, I give you this: http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/ifni/FZNvsFIX.13Sep05.avi The filesize is ridiculously high, but the picture quality is unsurpassed. It shows a fight that FZN had against FIX, outnumbered approximately 2.5 to 1 if my memory serves me right. There were some screenshots posted on the FIX boards, but alas, I can no longer view them. I would have prefered to keep this simply between myself, FZN and FIX, but the admins of the FIX forums would prefer I not make my presence felt. Oveur > CUZ IM EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEME!!!!
Angus Therm0pyle	Posted - 2005.11.19 20:42:00 - [54] Originally by: Levin Cavil So in 2 weeks you lost as many ships as we lost in 3 months? I fail to see how this time difference explains anything beyond more kills. And even with your "petitioned losses" Your KDR is still worse than ours against FIX. C-F 307/63 = 4.87:1 KDR (according to C-F numbers) FZN 581/111 = 5.23:1 KDR (according to FIX KILLBOARD numbers) According to our own Killboard against the whole of eve (not just fix) we have 1234 kills/182 losses = 6.78:1 KDR (including pods) I fail to see how anyone in C-F can criticize anyone in FZN. Difference is we fought people with pvp Setups ---------------
Nez Perces	Posted - 2005.11.19 20:44:00 - [55] Originally by: Ifni I had made a post on the FIX Forums but Nez, I assume, was kind enough to ban me. All FZN personnel are perma-banned on the FIX forums, because simply put you are a bunch of trolls. But pls take it personally if you will... Originally by: Ifni I would have prefered to keep this simply between myself, FZN and FIX, but the admins of the FIX forums would prefer I not make my presence felt. I¦m sure you are distrought have a tissue....
Ifni	Posted - 2005.11.19 20:55:00 - [56] Edited by: Ifni on 19/11/2005 21:00:26 As an addition to the previous reply, someone was kind enough to circumvent the FIX forum for me and supply me with links to the screenshots: From the FZN side. Ifni's Screenshots: One \| Two \| Three \| Four From the FIX side. (mirrored by myself to prevent sudden... uh... removal ) Megri's Screenshots: One \| Two \| Three \| Four \| Five \| Six \| Seven P'ercev'hal's Screenshots: One \| Two \| Three \| Four \| Five \| Six \| Seven \| Eight twit brent's Screenshot: One Oveur > CUZ IM EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEME!!!!
2600	Posted - 2005.11.19 21:05:00 - [57] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: 2600 Nez, here's a clue: we aren't here for your respect. We're here to destroy your alliance, and have a good time doing it. ... yeah thats exactly what Burn Eden say...¦FZN the destroyers of alliances¦ ... dream on. The fact that you feel the need to reply in such defensive tones speaks for itself. We knew all along that Firmus Ixion is just CFS v2.1 and FIX leadership just proves it over and over again.
Nez Perces	Posted - 2005.11.20 01:25:00 - [58] Originally by: 2600 We knew all along that Firmus Ixion is just CFS v2.1 and FIX leadership just proves it over and over again. Oh you did... really... lets start with who the ** are you? 2600 hmm... you would be who exactly... tell us .. exactly what do you know about CFS? There is only one of you in FZN that is intimate with CFS and would have the temerity to state that FIX has any parallels with CFS (not that there was anything particularly horrible about CFS, it was just a victim of human nature). That one person would be levin... not you .. 2600 whoever the **ens you are...
Spike 68	Posted - 2005.11.20 02:04:00 - [59] you missed the part where the domi warped off and I died, "losing transmission" just doesnt cut it
Levin Cavil	Posted - 2005.11.20 02:20:00 - [60] Originally by: Spike 68 you missed the part where the domi warped off and I died, "losing transmission" just doesnt cut it I can't include what I didn't record. Believe me, I wish I could. Currently Training: Suicidal Tendencies [Rank 8] 1,947,276/2,048,000 SP

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