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Imode
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Posted - 2005.11.18 00:36:00 -
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I remember reading somewhere that CCP's not going to allow people to swap their characters over to the new asian-stylized races, and I'm wondering if something else would be possible. I can understand that you'd want to limit the abuse of character swapping in the chance to get a attribute re-roll. How about implementing a one-time swap to the new races in name only?
My character's currently Gallente/Gallente purely because that was the nicest possible option available to me at the time.
I'm not French.
I don't want to look French... no offence to the French, of course.
As far as I can tell, I've been Chinese for nearly the last 25 years and although real life != game life, I'd like to pretend I'm at least Chinese, or some semblence of Chinese inside the game as well. Are you seriously telling me that you're going to create this badass looking Asian race after I have been playing this game for nearly a year (and others longer!), and that you're going to force me to turn my current character (who I am completely cool with stat-wise, skillwise, etc) into biomass if I want to play an Asian character? Can't you give us a permanent swap in name just once, where it would go from something like Gallente/Gallente to Gallente/Whateverthenewraceiscalled without changing any of the existing stats of the character? Heck, I wouldn't mind paying $10 or even $20 for this. Please think this one over, CCP.
Either my ability to see how this can be exploited is extremely short-sighted, or you're intentionally trying to turn down extra revenue. 
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Just an Asian player not in an Asian market...
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.11.18 00:39:00 -
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It should possible to transfer into a clone of another race, according to the prime fiction. I don't see why they won't allow you to create an alt with the new races and transfer the portrait.
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Claude Leon
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Posted - 2005.11.18 00:40:00 -
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Agreed. I have a corp member who is in the same situation. |
Cephalus
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Posted - 2005.11.18 01:29:00 -
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i think you will be able to use the "Swap Character Portrait" function, make an alt whit the new bloodline and then swap the portrait to your original char.
you will look diffrent but you will still have the same attributes.
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Crausaum
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Claude Leon
Agreed. I have a corp member who is in the same situation.
We both understand our corpmates frustrations all too well sadly.
In my opinion it is not fitting with the theme of Eve to have content introduced two years after game release that is not accessable to older players.
Please remember that Eve is a game that allows players to improve their flawed stats through skills and implants and in the event that they picked a race who's ships they do not like they can always train to use another races' ships.
Eve is not about absolutes and limitations. It is about freedom and the ability to take the tools given to you and to create an environment that you can enjoy yourself in.
Limiting a player to using only the face that they chose from a limited list of those available at launch while allowing only new characters and their players the enjoyment of having face that better reflects their desires seems to go against the grain of Eve.
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Hasham Abbas
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cephalus
i think you will be able to use the "Swap Character Portrait" function, make an alt whit the new bloodline and then swap the portrait to your original char.
you will look diffrent but you will still have the same attributes.
unless there's been an announcement i'm unaware of, afaik portraits cannot be swapped across bloodlines.
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Kyoko Sakoda
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:44:00 -
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Well I don't think I support swapping between races, but I do support swapping between bloodlines.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:52:00 -
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If you're just swapping the image, what does it matter? It can't possibly hurt to let someone wap the image to that of another race without actually being it.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:55:00 -
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I think it could be a good reward for RPers. So if you've done a lot of work to support the Khanid, and actively play one then, if you're Amarr and your standing is really high with them, like 8.0+, then you should be allowed to change. But for just anybody, I don't really see it as a good idea.
PS - I don't have anywhere near 8.0 with anybody, so I couldn't take advantage of this.
Sig modified due to xenophobic comments -Iacon
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Imode
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
Well I don't think I support swapping between races, but I do support swapping between bloodlines.
Woops, you're right. I meant bloodlines.
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xStormwingx
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Posted - 2005.11.18 04:31:00 -
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While I'm certainly alright with being a Caldari character, being Chinese myself I've gotta agree with the OP on this.
If I must I would pay like $5-10...but being subscribers already, and this being a new addition open to every new character, it just doesn't seem quite fair that we'd have to pay to use parts of an update that any new player can utilize free of charge.
Yay for, maybe, a one-in-a-account-time switch to the ONLY new bloodline if desired.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.11.18 07:05:00 -
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a) u cant change bloodlines but u can do a new character portrait for a one tiem fee
b) if u have an alt that is doing nothing skills wise might just be youre scout with say 2 days training terminate them and create a new slot
c) i have a third slot available that im saving for the new blood lines
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.11.18 07:23:00 -
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I think CCP should allow all real life asians to switch to new blood line. But how would they confirm you are a real asian?
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Crausaum
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Posted - 2005.11.19 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Face Lifter
I think CCP should allow all real life asians to switch to new blood line. But how would they confirm you are a real asian?
That's just adding needless complexity to a problem that I am sure is frustrating many.
I simply fail to see why CCP is being so stuborn on this issue. It is new content released into an aging game, why not allow a swap?
A onetime swap would not open the gates of hell in Eve. I think the worst it would do is make a mess of things for a week or two.
I've been playing Eve for nearly two years now and I can safely say that it could get a little boring playing the same face all that time. It's not like changing your characters face would free you from any misdeeds.
I'm happy with my character as is but others are not and allowing some minor breathing room would save a lot of frustration from the player base I would think.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.11.19 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Crausaum
Originally by: Face Lifter
I think CCP should allow all real life asians to switch to new blood line. But how would they confirm you are a real asian?
That's just adding needless complexity to a problem that I am sure is frustrating many.
I simply fail to see why CCP is being so stuborn on this issue. It is new content released into an aging game, why not allow a swap?
A onetime swap would not open the gates of hell in Eve. I think the worst it would do is make a mess of things for a week or two.
I've been playing Eve for nearly two years now and I can safely say that it could get a little boring playing the same face all that time. It's not like changing your characters face would free you from any misdeeds.
I'm happy with my character as is but others are not and allowing some minor breathing room would save a lot of frustration from the player base I would think.
Well, if you look at all the other MMOGs that have added new races to games years after they've been available do they let you swap to that race? No, they make you start a new character if you want to play it.
Of course, those games have level caps, so it's not too hard to start afresh. But I do kind of see CCP's point that the new bloodlines are for new characters so that they can feel special in the game.
Really, though, they're only adding new portraits, since there's not much else that race effects in the long-term.
Originally by: rowbin hod
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2005.11.19 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Imode
I'm not French.
Neither are the Gallente, there is only one place they are refered to as french ascendant and that is in the wrongful character description for that race. I strongly feel this should be changed, it has nothing to do with the game, it adds inconsistency to the backstory, and it brings out xenophobia among many players.
Breaks my heart to see that historical events of the real world that has no connection with the game universe is tainting the roleplaying aspects of the game.
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Soratah
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Posted - 2005.11.19 12:27:00 -
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I totally support Imode on this.
This is a game world with for factions that are composed of all the ethnicities of Earth. The character portrait system until recently hasnt even bothered to cater for these especially EVEN when it's written about some cultural heritage (Caldari = Japanese Corps).
Being Chinese myself I have found it rather upsetting that I'll have to give up on my current character to play something that FEELS more like me. Plus, the refusal is an absolute slap in the face for all those RPers out there who have affilitated themselves with a cetain faction.
COME ON CCP, not all people who want a bloodline change want the uber stats ALL they want is a Race: [Insert affilitated race here] and a race-picture. It's not TOO hard is it? I mean we actually PAY you money for doing the portrait swap.
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Kara Kaprica
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Posted - 2005.11.19 14:13:00 -
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if your atribute do not change, and you sp do not change, or anything else actual game related (as bloodlines denote the starting attributes and skills) then here should be no reason no to allow people to swap to them.
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Manasseh San'Shapur
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Posted - 2005.11.19 16:10:00 -
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I missed the blog on the new Bloodlines, and cant seem to find it now. Can any you guys pls post a link? 
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2005.11.19 16:47:00 -
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They should because ur only changeing bloodlines... TomB used to be mimintar b4 he was jovian and he when to state war acamdey
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:03:00 -
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Just a little note: Gallente/Gallente is also the closest you can come to American in this game (No, Caldari are NOT American).
The way it can be exploited is that the new race might have a more apealing base attribute. But CCP disallow it due to identity issues (I'll write a blasphemous example: in WOW you're known as Annoyme the Gnome. You don't suddenly change to Annoyme the Human)
So. When are these forums going live in game? |
Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Gloom
They should because ur only changeing bloodlines... TomB used to be mimintar b4 he was jovian and he when to state war acamdey
Jove chars are created as Caldari just cause it was easy to code, I believe.
Note how the Jove Cruiser requires Caldari Frigate. At least it did for a few years.
So. When are these forums going live in game? |
Jon Xylur
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Posted - 2005.11.19 19:18:00 -
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I think changing you'r portrait to a new bloodline should be allowed, but you'd have to ask CCP permission to do so (you'd need a reason, like you're a Khanid RPer or an Asian player) and pay them. They wouldn't need to change you'r base attributes, just the description and look.
BTW,If all Jovian devs were originally Caldari, then why do they seem to give them so many sucky ships and nerf them so much? And why do Caldari still have good standing with Jovians? You'd think they'd be ****ed off at them after the missile nerf and all?
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.11.19 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Xylur
I think changing you'r portrait to a new bloodline should be allowed, but you'd have to ask CCP permission to do so (you'd need a reason, like you're a Khanid RPer or an Asian player) and pay them. They wouldn't need to change you'r base attributes, just the description and look.
BTW,If all Jovian devs were originally Caldari, then why do they seem to give them so many sucky ships and nerf them so much? And why do Caldari still have good standing with Jovians? You'd think they'd be ****ed off at them after the missile nerf and all?
I believe there was a event a long time ago where the Joves did something to the caldari thats was *good* but my memory isnt fresh.
And every race has had their fair share of nerfs, not only the caldari but minmatar perhaps got the worse of it a long time ago.
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2005.11.19 19:50:00 -
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As long as it is just the portrait, I see nothing wrong with allowing people to switch how they look.
It is only a cosmetic issue, with no substantial effect on gameplay.
Harry Voyager
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.19 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Harry Voyager
As long as it is just the portrait, I see nothing wrong with allowing people to switch how they look.
It is only a cosmetic issue, with no substantial effect on gameplay.
Harry Voyager
You are allowed to change how you look. As long as it's the same race, bloodline, and sex.
So. When are these forums going live in game? |
Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.11.19 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cephalus
i think you will be able to use the "Swap Character Portrait" function, make an alt whit the new bloodline and then swap the portrait to your original char.
you will look diffrent but you will still have the same attributes.
Nope you can't even do that now, portrait swaps must ne same race and same bloodline.
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.11.19 21:14:00 -
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I find it more than rediculous that people even care that they can't do this.
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Kyoko Sakoda
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Posted - 2005.11.19 21:15:00 -
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I must also add that I believe this should be a limited time service - this should not be allowed after a certain amount of time post-patch.
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.11.19 21:19:00 -
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It shouldn't be allowed at all. You picked your race now live with it, you can't switch to one of the current bloodlines so why should you be allowed to switch to a new one. "Oh (sob, sob) because it isnt fair because it wasn't there when I started" cry me a f*ckin' river.
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