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Jureth22
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:07:00 -
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23.328.000.this is how much you can train in one year assuming you have + 5 implants,and remapped for example,maximum perception willpower.
it takes roughly 19-20 years,to reach the limit of clone upgrade of 450m skillpoints.and the ammount of skills goes beyond 450m.
so lets say 20 years,to reach skill perfection with a character in eve online.sounds a bit like much? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
10186
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:10:00 -
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It doesn't sound enough. CCP need to add some more skills in to make sure that nobody "maxes out".
1 Kings 12:11
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Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:11:00 -
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It would be a bit much if you needed anywhere near that to be productive in the game. Since you can be productive hours into the game, having fun doing stuff, it doesn't seem that bad to me.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Jureth22
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:11:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:It doesn't sound enough. CCP need to add some more skills in to make sure that nobody "maxes out".
well its only been 10 years now,and the highest sp character i seen has 198m sp.all pvp focused.
did ccp ever tought this is why they expand so slow?and this is why new player come and leave the game as fast as they came?:D |
Jureth22
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
97
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:13:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:It would be a bit much if you needed anywhere near that to be productive in the game. Since you can be productive hours into the game, having fun doing stuff, it doesn't seem that bad to me.
first of all,you need to understand that nothing lasts forever.lets say you wasted 20 years of paying an account to be active to skill for it and play it in the same time,and suddenly,and no offence ccp or anyone,but as i said before,nothing lasts forever,ccp might go bankrupt,eve goes bye bye.what you gonna do then thinking of all the time you have invested? |
Riot Girl
Thundercats
The Initiative.
1101
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:16:00 -
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Jureth22 wrote:what you gonna do then thinking of all the time you have invested?
Switch to Puzzle Pirates.
Oh god. |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1642
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:16:00 -
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Jureth22 wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:It would be a bit much if you needed anywhere near that to be productive in the game. Since you can be productive hours into the game, having fun doing stuff, it doesn't seem that bad to me.
first of all,you need to understand that nothing lasts forever.lets say you wasted 20 years of paying an account to be active to skill for it and play it in the same time,and suddenly,and no offence ccp or anyone,but as i said before,nothing lasts forever,ccp might go bankrupt,eve goes bye bye.what you gonna do then thinking of all the time you have invested?
You mean like having a comic collection that gets washed away in a flood, a model boat in a bottle destroyed by a fire or an ant farm the kids put in the oven? All hobbies are time wasters, you know that going in. The amount of money or time spent doing it shouldn't matter, as that was the point. Did you enjoy your time doing it? Then it was worth it.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Jureth22
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
97
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:18:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Jureth22 wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:It would be a bit much if you needed anywhere near that to be productive in the game. Since you can be productive hours into the game, having fun doing stuff, it doesn't seem that bad to me.
first of all,you need to understand that nothing lasts forever.lets say you wasted 20 years of paying an account to be active to skill for it and play it in the same time,and suddenly,and no offence ccp or anyone,but as i said before,nothing lasts forever,ccp might go bankrupt,eve goes bye bye.what you gonna do then thinking of all the time you have invested? You mean like having a comic collection that gets washed away in a flood, a model boat in a bottle destroyed by a fire or an ant farm the kids put in the oven? All hobbies are time wasters, you know that going in. The amount of money or time spent doing it shouldn't matter, as that was the point. Did you enjoy your time doing it? Then it was worth it.
do you think at eve as a hobby? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
10187
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:21:00 -
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Jureth22 wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:Jureth22 wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:It would be a bit much if you needed anywhere near that to be productive in the game. Since you can be productive hours into the game, having fun doing stuff, it doesn't seem that bad to me.
first of all,you need to understand that nothing lasts forever.lets say you wasted 20 years of paying an account to be active to skill for it and play it in the same time,and suddenly,and no offence ccp or anyone,but as i said before,nothing lasts forever,ccp might go bankrupt,eve goes bye bye.what you gonna do then thinking of all the time you have invested? You mean like having a comic collection that gets washed away in a flood, a model boat in a bottle destroyed by a fire or an ant farm the kids put in the oven? All hobbies are time wasters, you know that going in. The amount of money or time spent doing it shouldn't matter, as that was the point. Did you enjoy your time doing it? Then it was worth it. do you think as eve as a hobby?
Do you think you need all skills to V?
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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
274
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:24:00 -
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It would be a bit much if the goal was to reach level (enter current highest WOW level here).
I mean, if your goal in EVE is to max out, good luck! Personally I can say it has never been mine...
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Toshiro Hasegawa
The Circus Corp
Nulli Tertius
8
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:34:00 -
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Its about the jouney not the destination. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
36
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:45:00 -
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If Eve is just some kind of unpaid dayjob for you until you reach your final goal of beng maxed out, then maybe you should consider not playing at all and doing something you enjoy instead. |
Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
124
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Posted - 2013.06.18 13:19:00 -
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Jureth22 wrote:so lets say 20 years,to reach skill perfection with a character in eve online.sounds a bit like much?
You have completely gotten it wrong.
Whereas in WoW and the likes reaching the max level is most important for doing the good stuff (aka raiding),
in EVE you just learn skills so you can use or do what you want. There is no need to max the skills out. |
space submarine
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Posted - 2013.06.18 13:30:00 -
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Jureth22 wrote:
ccp might go bankrupt
Didn't they take out a loan to develop DUST?
I'm not saying that will do it, but there's a distinct possibility that sometime in the future CCP goes bankrupt. I mean, Iceland went bankrupt  |
Venom13Games
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.06.18 13:30:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:It doesn't sound enough. CCP need to add some more skills in to make sure that nobody "maxes out".
You do have 3 character slots per account... maxed one? Start on the next.
That said, I'm all for new skills in EVE, so long as they don't detract from any of the ones already here. Give us something new to specialize in. |
Pepper Solette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
145
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Posted - 2013.06.18 13:32:00 -
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Toshiro Hasegawa wrote:Its about the jouney not the destination.
I have to agree with this. It's more about enjoying the game for the sake of the game.
If you sit there and think "OMG I CAN'T FIRE MY LAZORS UNTIL I GET IT ALL TO LEVEL 5 !!!111!!!!" Then this game isn't for you.
Personally, i swear i suffer from some sort of OCD and i like to see my skills at 5, then go onto the next skill. I have plenty of accounts and i am in no rush. I love the journey that is EvE.
I am extremely happy that there is such a long time to possibly max out your character and I was actually saddened that they made it easier to get into the larger ships in the last patch. But CCP has to cater to the "instant bacon" types as well.
I didn't join this game because it was easy and i hope there never is a MAX, that way there is always something to aim for.
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
14976
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Posted - 2013.06.18 13:59:00 -
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Jureth22 wrote:Malcanis wrote:It doesn't sound enough. CCP need to add some more skills in to make sure that nobody "maxes out". well its only been 10 years now,and the highest sp character i seen has 198m sp.all pvp focused. did ccp ever tought this is why they expand so slow?and this is why new player come and leave the game as fast as they came?:D Actually the highest SP char has over 225 mill SP and it's Dr Caymus.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
flakeys
Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology
Interstellar Confederation
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:02:00 -
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Toshiro Hasegawa wrote:Its about the jouney not the destination.
You sound like my wife ... i on the other hand LOVE the destination.Slow journey's is for girrrrrrrrls . 
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union
The Predictables
313
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:10:00 -
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'08 char with 23 mil sp. wtf have I been doing?  |
Sarah McKnobbo
Omamori Himari
Pandora Hearts
2
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:15:00 -
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Jureth22 wrote:it takes roughly 19-20 years,to reach the limit of clone upgrade of 450m skillpoints
There is no 'end-game' in EvE. It's not meant to have a WoW/EQ 'Lvl80'
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Freighdee Katt
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
199
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:44:00 -
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Just get 100 accounts. Then you can hit 450m SP in about three months. Problem? |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2172
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:44:00 -
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Jureth22 wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:It would be a bit much if you needed anywhere near that to be productive in the game. Since you can be productive hours into the game, having fun doing stuff, it doesn't seem that bad to me.
first of all,you need to understand that nothing lasts forever.lets say you wasted 20 years of paying an account to be active to skill for it and play it in the same time,and suddenly,and no offence ccp or anyone,but as i said before,nothing lasts forever,ccp might go bankrupt,eve goes bye bye.what you gonna do then thinking of all the time you have invested?
What about the time you're wasting now on the forums talking about wasting time in a game?
I think you should sit down and really examine your whole outlook on gaming, forums, life, the universe and everything.
But don't waste too much time doing it. There is probably something else you could be doing.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Jureth22
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
97
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:46:00 -
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Freighdee Katt wrote:Just get 100 accounts. Then you can hit 450m SP in about three months. Problem?
this would work.but the ammount of $ to be invested would be amazing :D |
Haulie Berry
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:55:00 -
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At 106 million skillpoints, I struggle to find a skill I give a **** about training at this point. If you feel like you need everything to 5, that's pretty much a personal problem. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
469
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Posted - 2013.06.18 15:03:00 -
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The 450m skillpoints are a lie since you don-¦t ever NEED all skills except for show-off. Your char will only ever sit in a single super, for example and in this case probably never leave it again, so why train for three other racial Titans? In fact, super capital pilots are specifically tailored for that job and more often than not bought and sold at the character bazaar, to my knowledge.
Also, if you ever waste time training ANY char to level V in such wonderful skills like Remote Sensing, it should be taken out and biomassed (out of principle).
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Ariel Dawn
F9X
983
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Posted - 2013.06.18 15:47:00 -
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Jureth22 wrote:23.328.000.this is how much you can train in one year assuming you have + 5 implants,and remapped for example,maximum perception willpower.
it takes roughly 19-20 years,to reach the limit of clone upgrade of 450m skillpoints.and the ammount of skills goes beyond 450m.
so lets say 20 years,to reach skill perfection with a character in eve online.sounds a bit like much?
The number to "max out" a direction is much smaller, I'm 150m+ SP and have about 95% of all combat-related skills at level 5 including specs for every weapon system to 5 and all races and I've wasted tons of SP on stuff like capitals which I never fly anyway! Like 0.15% of my SP is non-pewpew focused, hah. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14956
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Posted - 2013.06.18 15:53:00 -
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Relevant.
Also, it's 23,652,000 SP per year max, and if you schmooze enough GMs and devs to get free remaps, it can be done in just under 19 years. And no, 19 years is not too much for something that is completely useless and only done for OCD or to waste time.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
RaTTuS
BIG
Insidious Empire
286
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Posted - 2013.06.18 16:01:00 -
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Jureth22 wrote:Malcanis wrote:It doesn't sound enough. CCP need to add some more skills in to make sure that nobody "maxes out". well its only been 10 years now,and the highest sp character i seen has 198m sp.all pvp focused. did ccp ever tought this is why they expand so slow?and this is why new player come and leave the game as fast as they came?:D
http://eveboard.com/ranks
and I'll just put my thread in the mix
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=235694&find=unread
I do have to update this - probably will later this week .
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
5597
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Posted - 2013.06.18 16:09:00 -
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Assuming you didn't stop training, if you have no implants and the worst possible remap for the entire year, you'd come out at just 13,402,800 SP at the end of the year.
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Jureth22
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
97
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Posted - 2013.06.18 18:03:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:At 106 million skillpoints, I struggle to find a skill I give a **** about training at this point. If you feel like you need everything to 5, that's pretty much a personal problem.
i almost got 100 too.i dont feel the need to have everything at 5.but it would be nice to have everything to 5 no? |
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