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Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 1110	Posted - 2013.06.20 17:56:00 - [91] - Quote Andreus Ixiris wrote: Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote: too long didn't read Clearly you care at least enough to continue derailing this thread. Responding when somebody offers insult is hardly an unforeseeable outcome. The last time I checked the word 'Duty' was a noun, and one that was popular throughout the cluster. It's hardly surprising that an organisation such as ours would make use of it - especially when it was available at the time of our founding.
Stitcher Re-Awakened Technologies Inc 1608	Posted - 2013.06.20 22:05:00 - [92] - Quote One of the corporations is called Duty. The other is called Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A. I don't give a bent frak about the tickers, especially not when they're unrelated to the name of the corporation in any way. Pyre Falcon Defence Combine taking the ticker [DUTY] is about as relevant as the fact that Subdreddit's ticker is [B3RT]. I'll go by names. And come to think of it, what in all the good things of infinity is a "pyre falcon"? Want to know what I think? I think the whole spat is pure ego, which Pyre Falcon possess in far too great amounts, to the point of hubris.So how about let's drop it and get back on topic. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 1112	Posted - 2013.06.20 22:28:00 - [93] - Quote Andreus Ixiris wrote: Anslo wrote: To be honest dude, if you really knew you were a better combat pilot or whatever, you wouldn't need to defend your abilities with words or numbers or posts. You'd just go out and prove it. That's assuming I had something I needed to prove (which Pyre-Falcon clearly do, because otherwise they wouldn't have interrupted a completely unrelated conversation just to grandstand). I'm just writing stuff I know will irritate them because making human refuse upset is ***ing hilarious*. You're clearly missing the point that the pilot you responded to FLIES FOR NATION AND NOT PYRE FALCON. Actually, reading on, you're not the only one who missed that point. YOU were the one who started throwing around the insults and making brag. I thought you'd changed sides and were now flying for the State? We don't act like this towards our own - your CEO ought to have counselled you ALREADY. I'm not sure that you're emotionally suitable to serve the State Protectorate, Andreus - and your blanket insults that include me certainly haven't impressed me. As for you, Verin Haakatain. Now that you're done lecturing everyone on Hubris, why don't you go back to speaking for the whole Loyalist capsuleer movement and telling everyone how to be the perfect Caldari? Whilst living predominantly in the territory of a declared enemy? Heth will be GONE soon and you are all not going to have the excuse of HIM to explain away your actions. Honestly. Sometimes you ALL disgust me.
Stitcher Re-Awakened Technologies Inc 1608	Posted - 2013.06.20 23:04:00 - [94] - Quote I seem to recall that just last month you valued my opinion. What changed and why, Suuolo? An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 1113	Posted - 2013.06.20 23:11:00 - [95] - Quote Stitcher wrote: I seem to recall that just last month you valued my opinion. What changed and why, Suuolo? Let's do this in private, Verin. We should talk.
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 610	Posted - 2013.06.20 23:33:00 - [96] - Quote If I may? Virtue can sometimes become vice. Pride is a noble thing, but at its furthest reaches it causes enmity where there need be none. So long as we serve the same values and the same State, I see no reason for conflict between us.
Gosakumori Noh Viziam Amarr Empire 242	Posted - 2013.06.21 00:12:00 - [97] - Quote Makkal Hanaya wrote: I look forward to a long and vicious rivalry between DUTY and DUTY(dot). May you blot out the IGS with your sniping. That whole NCNCDOTCIS thing had me so terribly confused for such a terribly long time, particularly when one of them was actually down in, you know, the south and the other one was, well you know, obliterated. Intentional irony, not intentional irony, a plot by the obliterators...? No really, when is Heth joining Goonswarm? They could burn Jita with feeling; or, something. Alizabeth darling, are you still here? I should write a letter.
Andreus Ixiris Duty. 3041	Posted - 2013.06.21 08:09:00 - [98] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Actually, reading on, you're not the only one who missed that point. YOU were the one who started throwing around the insults and making brag. I thought you'd changed sides and were now flying for the State? We don't act like this towards our own - your CEO ought to have counselled you ALREADY. I'm not sure that you're emotionally suitable to serve the State Protectorate, Andreus - and your blanket insults that include me certainly haven't impressed me. Let's examine here, Pieter. I merged Mixed Metaphor's current active roster into Duty because Toushi Kimura, the man who runs it, is a long-time personal friend of mine and he is - by my own admission - better at managing large groups of people over a long period than I am - in his words, which I absolutely agree with, I make a better fleet commander than a CEO. Also, just so that we're clear on this, I was invited to join Duty - I did not ask or beg. Duty joined the State Protectorate as a warm-up exercise for pilots just returning to active service, and nothing more. The positively abysmal attitude of basically every pilot who flies under the State Protectorate flag for any significant length of time absolutely precluded any long-term arrangement of that kind - as evidenced by the ****** behaviour of pretty much everyone in your corporation other than yourself, and increasingly, you too. I just happened to join while the corporation was still working for it, which is why for five presumably glorious days the IGS got to freak out and speculate about me having the rank of Protectorate Ensign. Skip forward a few weeks and I make a statement on behalf of Duty about the CEP and Heth, regarding Duty's willingness to assist capsuleers loyal to the State in returning Heth to CEP custody. This was not even a case of "we'll help you whether you like it or not!" This was simply a case of "we will help if it's needed." Duty is an 81-pilot corporation with an excellent active-to-inactive member ratio. Some corporations would find that calibre of assistance useful. Along comes Veikitamo Gesakaarin - your corporation's very own bastard child of Gosakumori Noh and Jade Constantine - and starts throwing unveiled insults at both myself and the corporation and bragging about how awesome her corporation is in comparison to ours. When called upon this she becomes geometrically more defensive, insulting and neurotic. Clearly the woman has insecurities you'd need a station hangar to store safely. If anyone needs counselling it's probably her. Pieter Tuulinen wrote: As for you, Verin Haakatain. Now that you're done lecturing everyone on Hubris, why don't you go back to speaking for the whole Loyalist capsuleer movement and telling everyone how to be the perfect Caldari? Whilst living predominantly in the territory of a declared enemy? It's pretty goddamn amusing that even with that handicap he still manages to do a better job of it than any member of your corporation. Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Heth will be GONE soon and you are all not going to have the excuse of HIM to explain away your actions. Honestly. Sometimes you ALL disgust me. O physician, heal thyself! Mane 614
Makkal Hanaya Revenent Defence Corperation 694	Posted - 2013.06.21 08:16:00 - [99] - Quote Andreus Ixiris wrote: ...Veikitamo Gesakaarin - your corporation's very own bastard child of Gosakumori Noh and Jade Constantine... So what you're saying is that she's a near perfect woman? Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Andreus Ixiris Duty. 3043	Posted - 2013.06.21 08:18:00 - [100] - Quote Makkal Hanaya wrote: So what you're saying is that she's a near perfect woman? I... uh... Well. You either have a very skewed definition of perfection or a very low opinion of women. Mane 614
Repentence Tyrathlion Tyrathlion Interstellar 84	Posted - 2013.06.21 08:27:00 - [101] - Quote Andreus Ixiris wrote: Along comes Veikitamo Gesakaarin - your corporation's very own bastard child of Gosakumori Noh and Jade Constantine ...I feel obligated to protest that Ms Gesakaarin is neither a delusional embarrassment nor a verbacious twit. That aside, Ixiris, it never fails to amuse and bemuse, the way you prance around begging to be made a target. There's a kind of self-righteous rage with which you plunge into anything and everything, daring others to attack you. The whole argument is pretty damn stupid, but you're as guilty as anyone of prolonging it. Perhaps we can all grow up now? As Mr Tuulinen pointed out, this was instigated (probably intentionally) by a toaster, and gains us nothing except Sansha's amusement. Surely that's reason enough to be silent.
Andreus Ixiris Duty. 3043	Posted - 2013.06.21 08:35:00 - [102] - Quote Repentence Tyrathlion wrote: That aside, Ixiris, it never fails to amuse and bemuse, the way you prance around begging to be made a target. There's a kind of self-righteous rage with which you plunge into anything and everything, daring others to attack you. The whole argument is pretty damn stupid, but you're as guilty as anyone of prolonging it. The truth is that no-one whose opinion of me I value is going to think less of me for prolonging this argument (because if they let it influence their overall opinion of me, I would cease to value it), but quite evidently various peoples' opinions of the other parties involved in this argument quite evidently have suffered. It's karmic! Mane 614
Erys Charantes University of Caille Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2013.06.21 08:57:00 - [103] - Quote Andreus Ixiris wrote: Repentence Tyrathlion wrote: That aside, Ixiris, it never fails to amuse and bemuse, the way you prance around begging to be made a target. There's a kind of self-righteous rage with which you plunge into anything and everything, daring others to attack you. The whole argument is pretty damn stupid, but you're as guilty as anyone of prolonging it. The truth is that no-one whose opinion of me I value is going to think less of me for prolonging this argument (because if they let it influence their overall opinion of me, I would cease to value it), but quite evidently various peoples' opinions of the other parties involved in this argument quite evidently have suffered. It's karmic! More like amazing... That an AAR can be turned into a verbal boxing ring so rapidly. We have the commonality that neither of us would value the others opinion, so that's of no concern... In the end, I just wanted to express a sort of amused astonishment, much like watching a massive, massive wreck taking place.
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1729	Posted - 2013.06.21 09:01:00 - [104] - Quote Petty, trite, and tiresome. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Sub-Director of Public Relations
Halete Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 1001	Posted - 2013.06.21 09:06:00 - [105] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: Petty, trite, and tiresome. This one does tend to agree. I am not Verin Hakatain and I am not Andreus Ixiris. I would urge all invested pilots to hold their peace henceforth and bare witness to updates on the field of battle and allow that which transpires to speak for them. "To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Cerise Solette University of Caille Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.21 09:11:00 - [106] - Quote THE QUALITY OF THIS THREAD IS TOO DAMN HIGH!!! Seriously, Andy and VG should start ******* or something. You two need it. Like, not even the basic sex. I'm talkin' gags and gimp suits. Strapons and whips. Get it all out of your systems.
Stitcher Re-Awakened Technologies Inc 1610	Posted - 2013.06.21 09:12:00 - [107] - Quote The point of my observation was that the entire argument over who gets to call themselves "Duty" is a petty and stupid one. I expressed myself clumsily and impolitically at the end of a long and tiring day, perhaps, but it was intended to snap people back. I apologise for the lapse in discretion. Andreus Ixiris wrote: The truth is that no-one whose opinion of me I value is going to think less of me for prolonging this argument (because if they let it influence their overall opinion of me, I would cease to value it) That's rather circular, don't you think? An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Andreus Ixiris Duty. 3043	Posted - 2013.06.21 09:14:00 - [108] - Quote Stitcher wrote: That's rather circular, don't you think? No Complaints YetGäó. Mane 614
Halete Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 1001	Posted - 2013.06.21 09:24:00 - [109] - Quote Stitcher wrote: The point of my observation was that the entire argument over who gets to call themselves "Duty" is a petty and stupid one. I was under the impression nobody was actually interested in that besides Ixiris. Maybe it's the language barrier; these translators are clumsy to me. But I do agree, that would be petty and stupid. "To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 1116	Posted - 2013.06.21 09:25:00 - [110] - Quote Andreus Ixiris wrote: Stitcher wrote: That's rather circular, don't you think? No Complaints YetGäó. At least not any that you're willing to listen to. But that's irrelevant. Now that I know your position in the State Protectorate was merely one of temporary convenience, my only reason for asking you to modify your behaviour is gone. I'll just leave you with a repetition of the point that this was all started because you took exception to the words of one of Kuvakei's Nation and decided to heap such abuse on the collective heads of Pyre-Falcon that Gesakaarin-haani needed to come out and address you. Verin - you're right, suuolo. It's a stupid, stupid argument. And on that note I'm done. I've gotten far too much mud on me. Entertained a lot of people who take pleasure in division amongst my friends, failed to reach the friends I was trying to scold and simply heaped further public dishonour on a situation that already has more than enough.
Arista Shahni Real Simple Construction The Citadel Consortium 26	Posted - 2013.06.21 09:34:00 - [111] - Quote Cerise Solette wrote: THE QUALITY OF THIS THREAD IS TOO DAMN HIGH!!! Seriously, Andy and VG should start ******* or something. You two need it. Like, not even the basic sex. I'm talkin' gags and gimp suits. Strapons and whips. Get it all out of your systems. Is this nonsense really necessary? This is the Intergalactic Sumit, not some trashy Galnet site. "I was dreaming once, and I dreampt of a world where I was nothing more than a biological fitting; a slave to the machine and crew, instead of the other way around. Don't you wonder at how easy it would have been for this scenario to happen, instead of how it actually unfolded?"
Andreus Ixiris Duty. 3043	Posted - 2013.06.21 10:02:00 - [112] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: At least not any that you're willing to listen to. Well maybe if someone started making some valid ones, I'd actually listen to them. Mane 614
Sofia Roseburn True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators 34	Posted - 2013.06.21 10:25:00 - [113] - Quote Arista Shahni wrote: Is this nonsense really necessary? This is the Intergalactic Sumit, not some trashy Galnet site. You know...over the years I've not really noticed much of a difference. Both contain the same kind of people who would rather gain social validation through a textual medium instead of doing something valuable with their lives. It's ok though! I stand resolute in the fact that I undock and follow my convictions. You should too. If only we had more people like Launette Vylier.
Arista Shahni Real Simple Construction The Citadel Consortium 27	Posted - 2013.06.21 10:48:00 - [114] - Quote Sofia Roseburn wrote: Arista Shahni wrote: Is this nonsense really necessary? This is the Intergalactic Sumit, not some trashy Galnet site. You know...over the years I've not really noticed much of a difference. Both contain the same kind of people who would rather gain social validation through a textual medium instead of doing something valuable with their lives. It's ok though! I stand resolute in the fact that I undock and follow my convictions. You should too. Interesting thought. I didn't realise public statalogical humor and sexual references were so acceptable in your association in regards to this particualr feed that you'd defend it. I'l have a chat with some of your Corporation about it, as obviously, I have much to learn. "I was dreaming once, and I dreampt of a world where I was nothing more than a biological fitting; a slave to the machine and crew, instead of the other way around. Don't you wonder at how easy it would have been for this scenario to happen, instead of how it actually unfolded?"
Solarienne True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators 80	Posted - 2013.06.21 11:20:00 - [115] - Quote This isn't some trashy GalNet site? Well call me Miss High Standards (please don't) - All these years and I had always assumed this was some candid outlet for those of small mind and smaller action to attack their betters who at least attempt to keep this place in line. My take away from this thread is: The original intent is long since buried under a faecal mass. Stitcher is reasonable and resolute - love or hate him for it appropriately Pieter is similar, but your only option is to love him. Andreus' primary redeeming feature is that he doesn't give a fedo's outer-sphincter what people have to say or think about him. Stop allowing him to accrue grudging respect in this manner by remembering this fact. Something happened in Haatomo and you should be really angry about it. Or happy. Or neither. I hope this helps.
Sofia Roseburn True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators 35	Posted - 2013.06.21 11:37:00 - [116] - Quote Arista Shahni wrote: Interesting thought. I didn't realise public statalogical humor and sexual references were so acceptable in your association in regards to this particualr feed that you'd defend it. I'l have a chat with some of your Corporation about it, as obviously, I have much to learn. You grossly overestimate the average humour level of the ordinary capsuleer. Besides, sometimes it's hilarious. If only we had more people like Launette Vylier.
Arista Shahni Real Simple Construction The Citadel Consortium 27	Posted - 2013.06.21 11:55:00 - [117] - Quote My apologies, perhaps my humor is not always compatable with the average Capsuleer. "I was dreaming once, and I dreampt of a world where I was nothing more than a biological fitting; a slave to the machine and crew, instead of the other way around. Don't you wonder at how easy it would have been for this scenario to happen, instead of how it actually unfolded?"
Anslo The Scope Gallente Federation 1957	Posted - 2013.06.21 12:50:00 - [118] - Quote Gods dammit you people are still at turning this AAR into a live debate slinging more mud than two washed up, ad hominem clinging politicians? -\_For the Proveldtariat_/-
Solarienne True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators 81	Posted - 2013.06.21 13:05:00 - [119] - Quote Anslo wrote: Gods dammit you people are still at turning this AAR into a live debate slinging more mud than two washed up, ad hominem clinging politicians? I'm sure that now you're here to help, all this bad behaviour will immediately cease. Good job Captain. Engaged in a scowling competition with Kuvakei since February 2013. -á June 2013 Status: Neither contestant shows signs of fatigue. -áThe jimmies of all in proximity seem pretty rustled.
Anslo The Scope Gallente Federation 1957	Posted - 2013.06.21 13:16:00 - [120] - Quote Solarienne wrote: Anslo wrote: Gods dammit you people are still at turning this AAR into a live debate slinging more mud than two washed up, ad hominem clinging politicians? I'm sure that now you're here to help, all this bad behaviour will immediately cease. Good job Captain. Thanks Toastie! -\_For the Proveldtariat_/-

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