because neutral enters local and Im solo ratting in a carrier (pretend scenario im not actually in possession of a carrier yet)

Or you could just...ya know...always be aligned to something. Carriers move slow as ****, and it's not like you are gonna screw up your tracking or anything.

no piloting 101 is dont rat in your carrier.

Why not jump out?
This frees you up to use sentries instead of fighters, which is good because fighters suck, really.

Why not jump out?
This frees you up to use sentries instead of fighters, which is good because fighters suck, really.

Or you could just...ya know...always be aligned to something. Carriers move slow as ****, and it's not like you are gonna screw up your tracking or anything

no piloting 101 is dont rat in your carrier

and yet people do it successfully. So...how about my original question. Roughly how much extra time/acceleration would it take to warp off after using 1 cycle of AB?

because neutral enters local and Im solo ratting in a carrier (pretend scenario im not actually in possession of a carrier yet)

its going to take a long time to train the skills so I can try this on Sisi. I need this info so I can decide if I can get away with training just AB in my 2 year skill plan.

Just spend 4-5 days to get High Speed Maneuvering 4. Worth it to always have the option to use a T2 100mn MWD.

people dont use cap for ratting?

I do plan on using sentries

jumping is instant so as long as I see a neut enter I can be gone instantly? No align time or anything

Yep, instant jump if you have capacitor for jump. Sentry ratting doesn't consume it.

how long does it take to ramp up a jump?




because if your moving then you cant use sentries which are way better than fighters



and yet people do it successfully. So...how about my original question. Roughly how much extra time/acceleration would it take to warp off after using 1 cycle of AB?

Well you also need enough fuel to make the jump, and you need a cyno within range to jump to.

I did the same with Orca and it was negligible. Especially if I was traveling where you are not aligned to start.

A MWD can get the job done in one 10s cycle and thats probably overkill. Probably at 8s if it were to turn off you would still have the velocity needed to warp

An AB is going to be somewhere in between. 20s warp out....15?

Maybe the orca is such a giant beast that its a bad test case for the AB.

How does it work that accelerating before the 1 cycle of mwd is better than accelerating after the mwd activation?

What you're asking needs more specifics, like what level do you have Afterburner trained to?

At level 5 you're looking at a 7.5 second cycle time from a 100mn AB, which you will need to run for 2 cycles then shut down and wait about 3-4 seconds of actual align time.

Also the MWD doesn't simply 'do it' in one single, theres a little drift time involved in either case.


Regardless, you shouldn't rat in your carrier, and yes a PL guy is telling you this. Eventually you will screw up, you will get caught, stuck on something, or just plain outright screw up.

The trade from using the carriers increased DPS isn't worth the financial loss at its death when you can get most of that DPS out of any random BS hull and do the plexes at nearly the same speed.

You using a carrier will have a slight DPS increase, while attracting all the people that like to hunt ratting carriers. You need to slip up once, and only once, and you're then short y our fit and ship for what? 300 dps over what you might achieve out of a battleship?

How is that worth it?

Your acceleration decreases the closer to your max velocity you are. Thus, it will take you less time to gain X speed from 0 than it would from some other positive non-zero velocity.

if a carrier makes 100m/hr then Im assuming BS make 70ish? someone correct me if Im wrong.

a carrier with 100mn MWD. 1 cycle of MWD then turn off the MWD puts the carrier at 75% velocity so it can warp out at the end of the 10 second MWD cycle. but MWD have negative effect on your capacitor

I was wondering if I used a 100mn AB on the carrier. And ran 1 cycle of the AB. How many more seconds of regular acceleration do you think it would take to hit 75% of max velocity to warp out? Im willing to absorbe a few seconds of extra acceleration to warp out to avoid the MWD capacitor hit

if a carrier makes 100m/hr then Im assuming BS make 70ish? someone correct me if Im wrong.

Using dual accounts should net you about 280M/hour using carriers, this should be possible even in the drone regions.

Using faction battleships is about as ******** than using carriers imho. It takes a Mach 7.5 sec to warp out, a carrier can either Jump out, or it takes 10 seconds to warp out using an overheated MWD. Faction battleships have to be faction fit to reach the effective DPS of a sentry carrier, which makes them more expensive to lose even without insurance on the carrier.