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Amorex
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:17:00 -
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You present a conspiracy theory that gives us the impression that a lot of people working with this game are "corrupt" in some sense, yet you show nothing to back up your claim.
You want a proof here it is.
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Luckily the fleet was undergoing space combat training when we were contacted by a senior Concord representative on behalf of the Ammarian Council
I want to know a name of that "representative"
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Event section of forum is empty and no info regarding somthing that is going on. Why Nebulai is silent? Info there is outdated.
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News section in Player website...is the only sourse of info and what you can see is a constation of the facts and what is already done. Concord doesn't inform us that Jovans are moving or sighted in that sector of space where MASS HQ is. Only one system is named.
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ChandraGupta
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:23:00 -
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Haha so I am not the only 1 looking for answers? Comeon People u pay for this ... speak up . Now is the time.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 10/08/2003 09:24:54
Amorex,
I think being included in a Jovian Event is down to being in the right place at the right time?
Announcing that Jovian B will be in System A and Time C will lead to huge numbers flocking there.
Nice lag and a stuck system would be the result.
TTI and now MASS have been lucky enough to be involved in skirmishes - maybe EV will, maybe RUS will...but not at the same time 
I understand the suspicions though - having Polaris members in any corp. is bound to leave doubts in your mind about the "luck" factor and the integrity of said volunteers.
C'est la vie.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Amorex
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:28:00 -
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Joshua Calvert
I'm not talking about exatly time and place, but no info regarding movements of that jovan. If he maneg to go where he want's and concord can't find him of do not hold a info of his wherebouts, then he could strike in noob sector and bring a havoc.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 10/08/2003 09:29:46
Amorex,
The last I heard was Ouria was seen in Jovian space piloting a capsule.
Maybe CCP want this event to be completely player-driven/controlled?
Talking of n00b space - it would be nice if they went to Yulai and took on certain player pirates *cough*
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Mandos
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:29:00 -
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Seeing that Polaris received no further information than the public ... this is yet another example of conspiracy theories (Polaris leaked info! Corp X has Polaris people who grants them favours!) and trolling.
Polaris staff are volonteers and exist in many, many EVE corporations. They cannot give favours to people, and if one would find a way of doing so he or she would be breaking a RL contract.
-- Mandos
Polaris Forum Moderator and Bug Hunter
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Skeeve
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:30:00 -
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I'll have to side with Chandra on this one. This is a "General Topic" forum.. barring offensive content pretty  much anything falls under "General" yes / No ? a Polaris member Deleting threads.. and using the "you are not allowed to discuss moderation . .bla bla".. can anyone say "Police State".. I"m paying good money for this service. and it IS a service given recent events this new bit of fun is wearing the numbers right off my credit card before I make my next payment. I"ve paid enough money for this experience for it to be rewarding and fun.. NOT aggrivating and now "Censorship"? Good lord.. this is getting really bad... did Polaris hire ****** ******* when he escaped from Iraq?
"Your Mother was a Hamster.. and your Father smelt of Elderberries!" - traditional French Insult |
Kashej
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:31:00 -
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regarding that post what got closed.
What about MASS having BP of Large Tachyon Beam Laser I, while we were informed such things will be first introduced in future patches.
Good Luck
O(o_o)O - y kotorogo net dryzei.
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Technolisa
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Posted - 2003.08.10 09:59:00 -
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Seeing that Polaris received no further information than the public ... this is yet another example of conspiracy theories (Polaris leaked info! Corp X has Polaris people who grants them favours!) and trolling.
Polaris staff are volonteers and exist in many, many EVE corporations. They cannot give favours to people, and if one would find a way of doing so he or she would be breaking a RL contract.
mandos Im wondering how else would certain corporations get hold of tech lvl2 Blueprints if they are not on market. How would certain corporation get contacted by Concord representative regarding the Jove admiral , wich showed up in "their" system , wich is 50 jumps away from the location wich was give on the news ?
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Mandos
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Posted - 2003.08.10 10:05:00 -
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mandos Im wondering how else would certain corporations get hold of tech lvl2 Blueprints if they are not on market. How would certain corporation get contacted by Concord representative regarding the Jove admiral , wich showed up in "their" system , wich is 50 jumps away from the location wich was give on the news ?
I have no information about Tech Level 2 blueprints, and if such were indeed released in an event it's on behalf of CCP/GMs and not Polaris volonteers. I hope this clears things up.
-- Mandos
Polaris Forum Moderator and Bug Hunter
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Technolisa
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Posted - 2003.08.10 10:41:00 -
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I have no information about Tech Level 2 blueprints, and if such were indeed released in an event it's on behalf of CCP/GMs and not Polaris volonteers. I hope this clears things up.
There was no Event regarding Release of Tech lvl2 , the only Event that people got to know about in news is about Jovian Admirall wich disapered from system were he was supose to kill Amarr people , and went to a system were Mass corporation were located , after they got contacted by "Concord".
So if u cant asnwer to our questions , could u atleas ask ur colleague to answer the questions we are asking here.
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Intruders
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:10:00 -
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Someone in this thread commented that maybe CCP in order to implement new gear in the next patch maybe handed around some new stuff to a selected few corps. It is an interesting idea but which might make us ask questions like those:
a) CCP is trying to test things on LIVE server instead of the test one, which might imply that testing things in the TEST server is difficult?
b) CCP has a TRUSTED FEW that are not Polaris and likes to share here and there some secrets with them?
c) CCP or some from CCP because of some poor communication between them, have power to interact WITH PLAYERS (a selected few) a situation that can very easily blow whatever balance has been developed from players to this game so far? Thous a profile is displayed, according to which this game company doesnt seem to take their current customer base seriously..yet?
Polaris themeselves have to explain the following to me:
Certain cloning facilities allowed entrance in Jovian space with our clones, when I personally tried ON PURPOSE (before a month), to fly through Jovian space and succeded with a newbie ship, checking factories and lab slots all over Jove only to find they were all..rented, making the Jovian region of map light up with "jumps at the last 24 hours" then witnessed an anussual motivation in Polaris system, 7 to 8 simultaneous Polaris ppl, and some of them entering Jove, in selected stations NOT accesible from players to check things out.. The outcome was that the next day or the day after that, I couldnt find any single spot in a cloning facility pointing to Jove. I can't explain anything of the above occurences neither find a logical explanation.
Was this a small hidden option visible only to some FEW who knew exactly what to find and where, then it was shut down because it might make it to the next forum Frontline post? And if yes, then why?
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:16:00 -
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Lots of happy bunnies posting on these forums  The people are not happy, they seek explanations, are you going to give them the (honest) answers they deserve CCP?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:17:00 -
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/me scratches head
What is being said here?
I'm still annoyed that Polaris members activities in player corporations aren't listed.
I'm not doubting their integrity - I'm just saying that there's a possible conflict of interest.
But that is for another topic (I think - I'm not really sure what this thread is all about because RUS, unfortunately, speak poor english and aren't allowed to post in their native language).
As for the Jovian encounters, I think the Jovian will visit each region in turn - Venal, Stain, and maybe Fountain next.
Who knows? /me shrugs
MASS, as far as I'm aware, received nothing but a bruised battleship or 6 from their encounter.
I think it would be awesome to be anywhere near a Jovian event but, because of the randomness of their appearance, I'll just bide my time until the storyline/event becomes more involved.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Skeeve
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:21:00 -
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 CCP would be well advised to heed the tones of these recent threads. With this Miner fiasco... and the apparent "heavy handed" actions of certain Volunteer individuals, the mood of the PAYING customers that participate in the Eve universe is souring rapidly. The question may well come to be.. "Can the Paying customers we Favour.. support our business?" for the sake of all paid CCP staff.. I hope so.
"Your Mother was a Hamster.. and your Father smelt of Elderberries!" - traditional French Insult |
Maekio
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:23:00 -
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If you had actually kept up with the news you would have seen that a lot of people had used the exploit to enter jove space, which was obviously not opened for player use yet so ccp fixed the bug that allowed you to go there.
Any rented slots will likely be reset when the space is opened.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:27:00 -
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Im with Zap here (boggles the mind), I dont care what people think has happened, odds are its all heresay, I want an official account.
What happened and why.
Being a paying customer I think I deserve it.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:31:00 -
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What?
Someone dragged up the old "set your clone to Jove space, self-destruct and merrily rent slots thing"?
Crikey.
Talk about scraping the barrel.
I thought that was dealt with ages and ages and ages ago.
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OldNeb
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:46:00 -
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Event section of forum is empty and no info regarding somthing that is going on. Why Nebulai is silent? Info there is outdated.
Allow me to clear up a certain misconception that seems to be arising here. The events team have nothing to do with introduction of tech II modules/blueprints into the game world, nor are we playing any jovians ingame at this time.
These sorts of events are held by CCP due to the nature of the items involved, which in turn means no-one from Polaris gets an unfair advantage over the player base.
That aside, not every event performed will have an entry posted on the events forum declaring it - only events where the producer has requested notification be made will this happen. This is to assist in the immersion aspect of the game, and let certain events happen on the 'spur of the moment'.
All events performed (be them by CCP, or the events team) are intended to provide as wider sphere of participation over the player base as possible, however as I'm sure you will agree, 100 simultanous events cannot be run at the same time. To counter this, events are run on a continuing cycle, one may happen in system A at first, and then system B at a later date.
If you have any further questions relating to Events, I will be happy to answer them for you, however please lets keep the trolling, or the wild accusations out of this as it leads to a degredation in thread content.
Kind Regards,
Nebulai
Senior Events Producer
The Aurora Project
Polaris
Nebulai
Lead Events Producer
The Aurora Project
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Pastora
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Pastora on 10/08/2003 11:48:25
We DEMAND an official explanation from an official CCP representative (Pann being one for exmaple) on the past events:
1. How did Miner II BP's end up in the game?
2. How did Large Tachyon Beam Laser I BP's end up in the game?
3. How on earth did the Jovian general ended up in the system 50 jumps away from the one stated in the news, and mentioned corp members informed by a Concord representative about his incoming?
Please, simple straightforward answers (not some role-playing stuff, which covers the truth in thousand layers of lies).
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Amorex
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Posted - 2003.08.10 12:36:00 -
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So the Dev's are making event's for "Loving onec" ? And they are care for the rest of the player base?
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Random
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Posted - 2003.08.10 12:53:00 -
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Just to make things clear, this joveian came to our system and we responded. After long skirmish and rolplay on the localchanel he contacted our CEO and told us to rolplay and send a post on the forums. We didnt resive anything but the engoinment of being kickt in the ars by a jovian.
We we just suposed to tel ppl that this hapend and make it intresting, so we tried to do that.
And trust me we are not in direct contact with concord, i think even the GM¦s cant even contact them.
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Pastora
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Posted - 2003.08.10 14:15:00 -
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All right, Random, sounds fair enough, though it still doesn't answer the main question, what was the general doing there 50 jumps away from the system mentioned in the news?
And for the role-playing stories: TomB have stated it clearly >> don't involve CCP stuff into any role-playing stories (w/o an explicit permission to do so)! It puts them in rather bad light, does it not?! The latest topics on this forum confirm the statement. By including in your stories anything, that is not under your direct control (like saying, you were contacted by Concord and any other NPC corp), in this kind of situation will always lead to what we have got now on these boards...
If you just put in your story, that your scouts have spotted the Jovian ship, etc. it would all be so different...
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Lutok
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Posted - 2003.08.10 14:38:00 -
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Ok Random, taking your story at face value, and lets explore the Miner 2 fiasco.
You received nothing for your encounter with the misplaced Jovian except loss of face and a confusing roleplaying encounter. It boggles my mind why your CEO was sent a message to roleplay from the Jovian. If your corp wasn't doing it right, the Jovian shouldn't have said a word because it ruins HIS roleplaying aspect.
Regardless, for your Corp's work they received nothing. Which is perfectly acceptable. However, the Miner 2 fiasco is another story. A dev popped out of a station, and for the lucky player to be in the right place at the right time for the dev to 'test' his player model out (can we say test server?), he receives a tech 5 laser. Tech 5 laser is then 'sold' to a TTI rep. TTI rep is contacted by the Devs/Jovians and is traded their lone tech 5 laser for an economy breaking Miner 2 BPC worth more in ISK than any battleship blueprint.
To sum it up, your encounter with your work resulted in no reward.
The Miner 2 fiasco with no work resulted in the biggest reward ever seen for absolutely no effort what so ever.
Yes, people are crying foul play and proposing consipiracy theories. Looks like crap, smells like crap, leaves a foul taste of crap in ones mouth...my my my, yes it is crap.
CCP, your people require more official words, namely from Pann. Put these fires out before you really get the masses up in arms over these poorly crafted and executed 'events'. We realize you are new to the MMOG genre and mistakes are to be made, own up to them, fix them, and keep balance and fairness in mind when you next create a player event.
Lutok
Lutok
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Daan
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Posted - 2003.08.10 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Daan on 10/08/2003 14:40:17
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mandos Im wondering how else would certain corporations get hold of tech lvl2 Blueprints if they are not on market. How would certain corporation get contacted by Concord representative regarding the Jove admiral , wich showed up in "their" system , wich is 50 jumps away from the location wich was give on the news ?
I have no information about Tech Level 2 blueprints, and if such were indeed released in an event it's on behalf of CCP/GMs and not Polaris volonteers. I hope this clears things up.
DOH this does NOT clear things up
Polaris ppl are here to HELP us. Yes they are players and thats why their capabilities are restricted, that i can understand BUT when important things happen Polaris ppl should be informed ATLEAST within 1 hour after the actual event so they know what happened and can explain things to ppl etc etc.
Or do you want to be the dumb sidekick that knows sh!t and can only direct ppl to 2nd line,
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Dominion Alaris
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Posted - 2003.08.10 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dominion Alaris on 10/08/2003 15:43:58
This is Eve-universe, not RL. Life isn't fair and Eve-universe isn't either. Why can't you just wait and see how the plot goes... I'm confident in CCP and their work. I don't feel that they bare any obligation to tell you what is going to happen or how things happened.
If there is a god in the skys that controls the RL then he isn't going to tell you how your life will be played out. CCP is the god of the Eve-universe. Where's the fun in it if they would tell us what is going on everywhere and how things will be played out. Just play along and enjoy what you have.... just like in RL.
How can you enjoy the game when you are constantly complaining about it... I really believe that you are losing the point here... THIS IS A GAME! Enjoy it...
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Pastora
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Posted - 2003.08.10 15:48:00 -
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I don't know about the God, but if customers stop to pay, EVE universe is going bye bye... =) That's fair, is it not? 
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2003.08.10 15:51:00 -
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I wouldnt mind so much if I was handed a Jove battleship complete with jump-drive and tech level 5 tachyons. Then you could all keep your lousy miner 2s.
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RAIDAKAOZ
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Posted - 2003.08.10 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: RAIDAKAOZ on 10/08/2003 16:31:35
Edited by: RAIDAKAOZ on 10/08/2003 16:30:52
I will post something that someone on this forum tells me all the time , life isnt fair get over it :) . In all honesty in my past experience with these gms, and anyone with authority , they not give a rats azz what u do, why u cry, or anything u say. So my suggestion is to live with it or move on to a new RPG . This is not intended to knock all ur posts this is just facts I have come to learn with people that have authority to do anything in this game . They simply see it like this for every person they lose 10 more people just signed up to play. Good example if it is ....... I put some heavy mod lasers in a courier mission with a name , only taht person to be able to pick it up, someone else was able to grab it and keep it ,I contacted these people explained to then what I did and they fed me **** for answers, well ur suppose to do this , ur suppose to do taht. I did everything they said I was suppose to do. And it didnt help , long story short when they tell u these 3 things ( theres nothing we can do , let me get back to u ,well there is no proof of this ) they simply saying u got a better chance of ****ing up a rope than getting answers to anything :)
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Kashej
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Posted - 2003.08.10 16:20:00 -
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As I remember slogan was: power is something you take.
but seems like it changed to: power is something you give.
Good Luck
O(o_o)O - y kotorogo net dryzei.
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