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Nour Aerilon
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2013.06.21 08:59:00 -
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I run missions with a Rattlesnake, Fleet Typhoon or a Tengu depending on mission. No mission takes more than 20 minutes including looting/salvaging with a Noctis alt. I accept everything except Drone missions and Anomaly. Id say that I make around 70 mil/hour this way, converting LP with a 1500k/LP ration. No downtime what so ever.
I have no combat performance implants or shiny modules.
Ive chosen not to run Incursions due to me being a dad to a 2 year old and Incursions groups are way to serious for my taste. |
mama guru
Thundercats
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.21 14:10:00 -
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Lilan Kahn wrote:i think more people should run missions, they are much easier to kill than incursion runners.
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EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:18:00 -
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Marc Callan wrote:Yeah, raw ISK per block of time isn't the only metric for whether something's worth doing. Sometimes it's the LP rewards that don't come from the CONCORD stores - such as chips for converting battleships to navy variants - sometimes it's the salvage for rig-making, sometimes it's the ability to set your own schedule without having to spin your ship for two hours and burning your night away, sometimes it's just a decently-profitable change of pace.
Especially when they aren't considering the entire block of time. "Oh Im making 120 million an hour" is bullshit. You played for 28 hours over the weekend and made 2 bil? That's not 100 mil an hour, sorry. You were only counting when you were running sites.
we're gonna make them eat our ship, then ship out our ship, and then eat their ship that's made up of our ship that we made 'em eat. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:40:00 -
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Nour Aerilon wrote:I run missions with a Rattlesnake, Fleet Typhoon or a Tengu depending on mission. No mission takes more than 20 minutes including looting/salvaging with a Noctis alt. I accept everything except Drone missions and Anomaly. Id say that I make around 70 mil/hour this way, converting LP with a 1500k/LP ration. No downtime what so ever.
I have no combat performance implants or shiny modules.
Ive chosen not to run Incursions due to me being a dad to a 2 year old and Incursions groups are way to serious for my taste.
drone missions are fast, not worth a decline imo. and anomaly is 3 quick missions to a storyline, slap a mwd on and they go quick. although I guess that leaves your noctis sitting around doing nothing.
You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Zircon Dasher
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Posted - 2013.06.21 22:12:00 -
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If incursion running and L4 missions were actually worth doing-- relative to other activities-- I might do one (or maybe both!) of them.
Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |
ashley Eoner
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:40:00 -
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Ireland VonVicious wrote:If I didn't see 50 mil in an hour then it was an incredibly bad hour.  You way underestimate L4 mission pay. Standings make it so I make more isk while trading. Locator agents! Because sucking at PvP is no fun. I can have help new players by allowing them to salvage behind me increasing their isk per hour while adding to mine. Incursion's are always over hyped. No one ever likes to figure in the time it takes to get groups together or replace people or the bad hours when competition is everywhere. Plus you get times where people pop the moms site and no incursions in high sec to be done. Perfect skills for a pirate faction BS with 5% implants in all slots and great gear equals more isk than being in a group that lets in new players that need to be baby sat and expect the same isk per hour as you when you bring 2x as much to the table.
Indeed when things are working properly I can average 90m an hour running level 4s (I include transit time and such). It's a bit hectic though and frankly running in a HQ fleet is a lot less troublesome and generally more lucrative.
TVP and warptome incursions are both good groups that will accept newbies and generally have a fleet up almost all the time. Warptome incursions is more newbie friendly though. |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:12:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:Admiral Pieg wrote:If you can solo lvl4 missions it means you can fly a battleship. If you can fly a battleship, you can get into a newbie friendly incursion fleet and make far more money and lp than any lvl4. You only have to get into a HQ fleet for a couple of hours to buy a faction or pirate battleship and then its all down hill from there, so what is the point of running missions and barely make 20 mill an hour when you can make 4-5 times that amount in the same time with even less risk and effort? Because maybe not everyone that plays the game is focused on min/maxing isk/hr Personally I consider fun/hr the most important metric ... please value fun per hour in a meaningful way for me. that's not subjective that's not all about you that applies to multiple people with different attitudes, needs, wants and desires. good luck with the challenge.
Amazing, someone that thinks like I do, I was being berated by "someone" on the missions channel that missions exist SOLELY for the purpose of ISK/HOUR ratio efficiency ... I was flabbergasted and shocked, reminded me of the "elite" pvpers that throw K/D Killboard links around to "show off".
Some people take this game too seriously . If it works for them, good, yippieyay! but honestly, people pretending others HAVE to play by their standards or else they are doing it wrong is the main reason I avoid people ingame and join the odd player channels filled with religious fanatics, BDSM talks and dirty jokes.
If I wanted to maximize ISK/HOUR I would jump into null with old friends and do much much more ISK than any Hi sec mission runner freak tells me he can with his pimped out mission running ship of the month with deadspace mods that perma runs everything with his maxxed capacitor skills or their awesome click-fu that is able to ping shields/reppers to the spot to maximize perfect cap/ratio use ... ugh.
To each their own, but some people actually play eve with horse blindfolds on and PRETEND everyone should to, and I don-Št really want anyone telling me how to play, if that was the case I would still be doing mining for a corp in null and rat on the weekends 
Been here for so long that I have seen mostly all and just stuck to log in and roam around aimlessly doing what I fancy the most atm.
But seriously obsessive people on peak efficiency for "ANYTHING" game related just make me twist my head to a side and sigh inwards, then I laugh as I keep chatting with dusties exchanging RL XXX pictures of them.
Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco:
http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
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