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Frigmond
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:36:00 -
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I see lots of people discussing alts, and I have to admit, it sounds appealing. I dual boxed way back in the day in EQ, and a bit in WoW (I know, shameful) but I was thinking there would be some real potential in it here. About three years ago, I mined, and used an Indy alt to transport my ores, but I have no plans of going back to mining, as I burnt out after about two weeks.
I took a large break from Eve, but I have been back for about three weeks, and have been running level 4 missions in my Vargur, and have been fairly happy with that. In most missions, I fly in, start killing, and put out 5 salvaging drones which salvage as I kill. My my three utility slots, I use tractor beams to drag stuff in closer. (although I have been thinking of putting on a drone range extension instead of one of the tractor beams) Anyway, my point is that since my drones salvage as I kill, I dont see the real need for a Noc alt. I dont feel well about trying to pilot two ships at once to mission in, so that is likely also off the table.
My question is then... Are there uses for alts in my situation? Production, maybe, but trading/hauling does not appeal to me, especially since I dont want to watch over it as I mission. Any input? Suggestions? Would a Noc alt actually be much better? (dont need the drone DPS, but always keep fighters with me for close frigs, just in case) |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2530
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:36:00 -
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Everybody can use a scouting alt.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Zak Breen
Breen Enterprises
116
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:40:00 -
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Gib more monies pls. Let's make game so people have to buy more characters to actually do anythingz roflcopters. - CCP
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of not knowing.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14994
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:40:00 -
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If you don't feel the need for an alt, follow that feeling.
If you do feel the need for an alt, follow that feeling.
Ultimately, the only one who can answer your question is you. By the sound of it, you don't particularly feel that need at the moment. For L4 missions, in particular, an alt would bet better used by simply running a second mission GÇö using one for salvaging is ridiculously wasteful.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1470
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:41:00 -
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Many* reason to get an alt.
Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Eri Sato
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:42:00 -
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Alt for Exploration? That's what I did. Blow things up with my main, travel the stars with my alt. My alt actually makes more isk salvaging and the like. Odd that. |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
419
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:43:00 -
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Salvage Alts are very handy for Missioning with
Tell The Others |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
2208
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:46:00 -
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I started playing in 2007 and for the most part I have 1 account till late 2009. I was living in null by then and the shear logistics of trying to fight "on the front" (back then i was in Atlas and right about then the "front" was up north where we were deployed) then going back to the South (where i "lived") to make isk was incredibly hard and irritating, even with jump clones (damn 24 hour wait).
So I made a seocnd account and took a toon (actually my original toon) off the 1st account and put it on the second and trained it to use ratting ships (and haul stuff to empire with a prorator via the jump bridge network). It was 1000% better, rather than having to jump or death clone around, losing skill points because I'd sometimes forget to upgrade lol.
Then i got lazy and made a 3rd accout just for hauling so I could leave my ratting toon ratting lol. I can't remember why I made the 4th accout but it was probably because I wanted to train 2 or 3 things at once. for the last 3 years I've had 4 accounts and it's so much FREEDOM it's crazy.
If i don't feel like null sec, i log in my 2 wormhole drakes , if I don't flee like that, it's my FW alt for some pew pew, if none of that works its the high sec incursion/mission alts etc etc. Now that i'm at the point that making the isk for 4 plex is 2 or 3 days/session work, it's all good for the other 27-29 days of the month. |
Eri Sato
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:48:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Salvage Alts are very handy for Missioning with
Agreed.
To be honest my salvage/exploration alt subsidizes my main most of the time.
A bit like slavery.
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Toshiro Hasegawa
The Circus Corp
Nulli Tertius
12
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:51:00 -
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i have a mining alt and a leadership / hauling / looting alt.
I use both a lot and cant really picture going back to one toon.
If i never mined again .. i would still keep the hauling alt.
He can fly everyting up to jump freighters, has max leadership skills, flies a noctis when im ratting with my main, can cloak if i need and I am working him into a Rorq - all and all very useful.
I really like to use the 2nd account to loot .. while the main toon is warping otu of the belt or anomolee - alt is warping in to clean up .. while im killing the rats at the new loc .. i cant alt tab back and forth and clean up .. all the while granting some bonuses.
All that being said .. i liked it back in the begining where most people didnt have alt accounts .. and people were specialised within the corp -- lent itself more to RPG - pilot role specific toons .. added a certain element to the game .. ike an old DnD party made up with different specialists who worked better together than apart. Now everyone is more or less self suficient .. not sure whats better - but i dont plan on going back to the old way of doing things. |
Frigmond
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:02:00 -
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I get that salvaging is worthwhile, but, as a person that has never used a Noc, it seems possibly redundant when I fly a Maurader. Like I said, I dont even fit salvagers. I kill something, my drones fly out and salvage it while I kill the next. Most of the time, they salvage faster than I can kill the stuff. Few NPCs target the salvagers, so they can just fly around doing their thing while I kill. The time consuming part comes from looting, but I still have a 40km tractor, and 750ish m/s with a MWD.
Would a salvaging alt actually be worth it? And do you try to use it while you mission, or always after? I am not against the idea, I am just trying to figure out if it actually makes a real difference when you use a Marauder, especially now with the Salvaging drones. (which I have fallen in love with, since they were not around when I played last) |
Frigmond
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:03:00 -
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An exploration alt might be worth looking into... But other than fun factor, is it considerably more profitable than missioning? I should mention that I dont leave highsec if I cant help it, but if I ever go for a Tengu, I might give it a shot. |
Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research
Epsilon Fleet
442
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:15:00 -
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Hauling alt, pvp alt, mining alt, market alt, all these things come in handy.
I got a market/hauler alt that I use to move stuffs around and sell from my missions. Like slavery
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Laserak
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:19:00 -
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Need cyno alt to move around your carrier m8r |
Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
3982
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:26:00 -
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i have a faction warfare alt. thus, i can blow things up, reap the rewards of those actions and not have my corp or main be negatively affected by such shenanigans. |
Revman Zim
Grim Determination
Nulli Secunda
127
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:03:00 -
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I played with one character for about 5 years before I needed a Cyno alt. I got a carrier for this character and that became a requirement.
However, since training up my cyno alt to 900k SP, I started a new character on that account that is all Industry. I have to admit that I enjoy my indy toon almost as much as this PvP toon. Guiding his skills, mining, harvesting, researching, copying. It has opened up a new part of EVE that I was missing before.
Looking forward to the isk sink that is T2 Manufacturing. |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
293
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:07:00 -
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Alts are like opposable thumbs: Not strictly necessary for survival, but make things so much easier. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Suns Of Korhal
Terran Commonwealth
50
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:18:00 -
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I find alts totally ruin any immersion brought by the game itself. That said, I have 3 accounts because its hard to get anything done with only one. If you are a decent sized corp, you might have pilots on hand that can coordinate for a particular task, but there will always be times when the right guy isn't on when you need to do something. Its hard to get jazzed about new jump gate animations when you never look at them. During jumps your mostly looking at the other screen trying to see what needs to be done there.
It also seems to depend on what you're trying to do. If you are doing 'explorer' type things, then one char is fine. Want to live in a wh though, then you'll almost certainly want at least two chars. My experience is in C3s, maybe the big boys in C5-6 wouldn't find it necessary. If you want to be a hisec ganker, you'll need someone who can fly safely to bring you ships. Sure, maybe your gank squad has someone who can do that, and that guy won't be logged on when you get the jonsing for a gank and need stuff. Oh you'll need your own scout too. Want to wardec hisec corps for fun? You'll need 3 chars for that. Trigger puller, scout, and locator.
I'd love to find a way to exist without the 'alts.' I feel scitzophrenic.
So OP if you can resist the urge to altify, then I'd say go for it. Also, please send me email about how you get by. I'd love to ditch all my alts... but now I'm not even sure which is the main any more.
I have 5 different chars that I play. This may be my main, or maybe not. I have no idea. |
Adunh Slavy
982
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:52:00 -
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Alts are for whimps. |
Domer Pyle
Northern Flemish Bastards Inc
Yulai Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:26:00 -
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alts are for people who care about this game too much, tbh. i use 1 character and have no problems doing anything.
"Imagine if the bars to your prison were all you had ever known.
Then one day, someone appears and unlocks the door.
If they have the power to do this, then are they really the liberator?
You never remembered who it was that closed you in."
- Ior Labron |
Riot Girl
Thundercats
The Initiative.
1133
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:36:00 -
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Domer Pyle wrote:alts are for people who care about this game too much, tbh. i use 1 character and have no problems doing anything. My alt saw you in Providence this morning when I was roaming.
Oh god. |
Chain Tian
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:47:00 -
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A forum alt comes in handy for when your thread sucks sour grapes and you need a character to post in it without looking like a total loser bumping your own thread. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2781
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:55:00 -
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Chain Tian wrote:A forum alt comes in handy for when your thread sucks sour grapes and you need a character to post in it without looking like a total loser bumping your own thread.
That's a very informative post, Chain. I think you are just peachy and a wonderfully insightful poster.
I'm not having a conversation with one of my own characters. Really.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Frigmond
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:11:00 -
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Alright then, thanks for the answers. I thought that maybe there were other, more compelling reasons for me. Hauling was fine when I mined, and a Noc might have been useful if I didnt salvage while I fought. Exploration is a maybe, I suppose, as is manufacturing, but either one of those really jump out at me. I am not a fan of PvP, although I most certainly see the use if I was. Thanks. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Suns Of Korhal
Terran Commonwealth
50
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:28:00 -
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Frigmond wrote:Alright then, thanks for the answers. I thought that maybe there were other, more compelling reasons for me. Hauling was fine when I mined, and a Noc might have been useful if I didnt salvage while I fought. Exploration is a maybe, I suppose, as is manufacturing, but either one of those really jump out at me. I am not a fan of PvP, although I most certainly see the use if I was. Thanks.
Don't forget, this is Eve. Just because you are not a fan of PvP doesn't mean its not a fan of yours.
I have 5 different chars that I play. This may be my main, or maybe not. I have no idea. |
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