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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
537
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:26:00 -
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Thanks to our very own Weaselior crossposted from GF.com:
test would appreciate it if you wouldn't look too closely at their money vault
Over the last few days, TEST has suddenly - in the grips of wretched poverty - settled on their latest narrative. Shortly after "Going out on our own down with allies" had to be shelved, they settled on an equally factual narrative: that Goonswarm was nearly broke.
In addition, TEST has screeched furiously over our finally announcing how many r64s we'd taken from TEST. Unfortunately, here we can't reveal everything because taking r64s in Fountain wasn't just done by blowing up TEST r64 towers. Because TEST is currently a disorganized shambling mess they've got no idea where the new r64s are in Fountain. We do, and we took them. This spreadsheet shows a large amount of the destroyed TEST control towers, along with the moon mineral they were mining I believe this list is actually fairly incomplete (I believe it leaves off most of the moons they've lost in NPC fountain to the locals), but given the amount of TEST insistence that the r64 claims were a lie, well, facts are troublesome things.
Keep in mind, this is what the test line member apparently believes:
If you look at that spreadsheet you'll notice 7 r64s lost in Delve. A Dyspro moon a thulium moon, another dyspro another thulium, a third dyspro and for good measure twomore thuliums.
Now, it is true that most of the r64s we've taken in Fountain we now own sov in the system as well. That's just good common sense. TEST has loudly proclaimed that they've retaken many r64 moons. The only moon they appear to be correct about is this one, a thulium: http://eve-kill.net/...kll_id=18303069
It is possible these delve r64s were privately owned and nobody in TEST leadership knew what those moons were. However, a good number of those moons are on dotlan so that seems unlikely - and for the ones that aren't, well, it's not a good sign that TEST's members could ninja their own private r64 in their homeland without anyone being the wiser. While we've used our private scans to verify what moon minerals were there, anyone who disbelieves us is free to go shoot a probe at these moons.
TEST is broke. They've been loudly denying it, but their reimbursements are backlogged to **** - and that's without even paying 100% reimbursements for their biggest doctrine, Navy Apocs (a TEST pilot losing a navy apoc gets the same reimbursement as a pilot flying a standard apoc).
I've spent a little time today figuring out just how boned TEST is. This investigation got sparked by Pmchem noticing that TEST has lost a staggering 2.25 trillion isk in ships over the past month and a half. June Losses May Losses. However, this isn't enough to figure out what they're down: for that, we need to look at their reimbursement sheet. Fortunately, I just so happen to have a copy.
According to my estimates, TEST has run up a 730 billion isk reimbursement bill alone since May 1st. If you'd like to make your own estimates about what percentage each category of ships are reimbursed, just make a copy and play with the menus. I intend to refine this estimate further when we can mine the killboard to get exact counts of what ships have been lost so we're counting each and every apoc, rokh, and the like rather than the relatively crude estimate we've got now. When I do, the reimbursement estimate will go up. Currently, all these estimates are slotting every destroyed ship into the lowest reimbursement slot that fits (except battleships, where I felt a t2 Rokh was a good compromise as a low estimate thanks to the cost of apocs). Then, they're discounted by an estimate of what is reimbursable: logis are considered always reimbursable, while battlecruisers are considered only lost in a reimbursable way half the time. The goal is to give the most conservative estimate of what their reimbursements could possibly be. And that estimate is monstrous. When it's more accurate, it's going to be terrifying.
To put that 730 billion in perspective, at no point while the TEST accounting sheet was public did they ever break 500 billion isk. And that was before it mysteriously broke as soon as they started losing money ... |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
537
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:27:00 -
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... But not to worry, TEST's refusal to reimburse carrier pilots and faction battleship pilots defending their space is not class warfare. Even the rawest, poorest, newbie is being denied reimbursement for his t1 destroyer:
There's nothing wrong with a low-cost doctrine. We love low-cost doctrines ourselves. That's why we hand out caracal fleets to basically anyone with a pulse, and might even consider letting someone of Zverofaust's skill take one out if he was strictly supervised. But every caracal from Goonswarm that dies gets reimbursed.
So TEST is significantly behind on reimbursements. There are some ways they've been able to tread water. Some of those lost dreads were likely repaid from a dread cache (reportedly, the dreads thrown away trying to gank NC. nyxes were replaced from the cache). However, as we've got reports that there are dread pilots who have been waiting weeks for replacements or reimbursement, it's likely that these dreads are either all gone, or capital ships are being replaced from the cache selectively. The other is simply making promises. TEST pilots must be aware by now that the reimbursement queue is significantly backlogged. If they haven't lost a ship that hasn't been reimbursed, they know someone who has. The explanation from TEST leadership has been that this is merely a problem of the reimbursement wallet not being refilled. There's sometimes truth to that: our own reimbursements on occasion have been held up several hours while reimbursers pinged directors on jabber to refill the wallet. However, at some point it must become obvious to TEST line members that the lack of reimbursement wallet refills is deliberate: there simply isn't the money to pay for the "IOU One Ship" promises TEST has been forced to hand out like candy. At that point, they've got to ask themselves if TEST can actually pay everyone back.
TEST has no good way of paying all of their reimbursement debts. Test's r64 towers are being constantly sieged and lost (when a moon is in reinforced it does not mine, so even a saved tower has lost a day and a half of mining time). R64s - TEST's only real source of income, now that anyone who looks crossways at a rat gets dropped by blackops - have been plummeting from their pre-Odyssey highs as speculators cash in their newfound riches. R64 prices are also significantly hurt because millions of microprocessors were made pre-patch. The new metamaterials required for microprocessors are what will drive higher r64 prices, and right now only the dimmest of empire pubbies buy them instead of buying built microprocessors off the market. Neodymium - which we were selling at between 40-70k during TEST's attempt to cartel it - is at 27k on jita sells and 22k on jita buys. Promethium is a mere 20k, thulium is 15k, and dyspro is a surprisingly high 31k. As TEST's income plummets, their Fountain moons become an unreliable source of income: even when they can defend them, or retake them, they're not making any money for the time they spend in reinforced or in our hands. Delve is their only source of income and PIZZA is taking it away rather rapidly without appearing to face any real resistance. Given that TEST has fled to lowsec, it's unlikely they can do anything about the loss of these moons.
As a result, TEST is in a fairly untenable position. Whatever meagre savings they had are long gone. I'm sure they've kept a hundred billion or so back from reimbursements, keeping money around for whatever the directors need rather than reduce the reimbursment backlog. But fighting a war isn't cheap even without reimbursements, and I'm not sure TEST even has enough money to really pay those bills. Their reimbursement backlog is only going to get worse, even if a few lucky people who got killed a few weeks ago finally get their reimbursements. It appears that TEST has been making token payments every so often to keep up the appearance of reimbursing ships, but it does not appear likely they've made a significant dent in their backlog and it seems likely the backlog is getting worse.
This lack of reimbursement hasn't taken its toll yet, largely because TEST pilots don't really seem to be aware of how backed up their reimbursement is. They are still fielding carrier fleets and napoc fleets. However, the percentage of napocs appears to be steadily going down as TEST pilots decide to switch to ships that may be fully reimbursed, someday.
TEST is going to need to start feeding a spin to its members which will not be terribly interesting (unless they happen to go the route of brutal honesty). What will be interesting is what data they offer to support whatever story they settle on. Currently, the data they've been offering is...well, nothing. If they somehow manage to get a cash infusion and actually deal with the problem we're likely to see actual data being given to their pilots and to the public to confirm it - after all, there's no propaganda nearly as effective as the truth. If we don't see any data, it's a good sign that the real data makes the situation look much more dire for TEST than their public assertions would indicate. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
537
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:27:00 -
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
537
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:29:00 -
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So there you have it, TEST is doing fine guys, nbd. |
Ka'Narlist
Cronos Titan Test Alliance Please Ignore
31
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:52:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:So there you have it, TEST is doing fine guys, nbd. Thx was searching for a tldr; |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
96
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:27:00 -
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Hey guys do you remember that one time ISK won a war? |
Ersahi Kir
Infinite Mobility SpaceMonkey's Alliance
190
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:30:00 -
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Test has a hidden source of income though. I got a couple emails saying that they were hired to wardec my corp a while back, but if I sent them some isk they would forget about it.
You obviously overlooked that.
Had to go back and search for it, and here it is in it's entirety
Quote:Re: An Offer From: Ersahi Kir To: ColonelSplendido Counterproposal:
I pour chocolate syrup on my taint and you lick it off. This offer will not expire in the foreseeable future.
An Offer From: ColonelSplendido Sent: 2013.04.09 03:01 To: Ersahi Kir,
My client has hired me to hunt you specifically and your corp members. However being a business man I'm willing to make a deal, give me 500m isk to this account and i will make the contract go away.
You have 36 hours to send the isk.
If ColonelSplendido is reading this, my offer still stands. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
538
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:32:00 -
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WarFireV wrote:Hey guys do you remember that one time ISK won a war?
-A- guy knows what wins wars lol |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
391
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:25:00 -
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PROPAGANDA SPIN 101.
dont believe the goon. |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
375
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:41:00 -
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I don't know or actually care how broke TEST is, but if their SRP is as truly backlogged as is being said, that's really bad for them.
I mean it's cool and all that they have big bros in ~*Elite PVP*~ propping them up in an attempt to repel the goons, but it's a dire situation for TEST after this fountain conflict settles, no matter who wins. If you've effectively stopped reimbursing capitals, your pilot morale is going to plummet and attrition rate is going to skyrocket.
I know you guys left the CFC like a year ago but enjoy the clusterfuck you've made for yourselves. |
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
212
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:50:00 -
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Varesk wrote:PROPAGANDA SPIN 101.
dont believe the goon.
Okay let's hear from TEST's reimbursement team and Boodabooda. Better yet lets see their finances and a working API so TEST line members can see just how "OK" things are in TEST alliance right now.
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Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
376
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Posted - 2013.06.19 22:34:00 -
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Accusations? Against my alliance? Better hemhaw about spin and propaganda. Don't bother to back anything up, just flatly deny. the chocolate ration has been increased from one gram a day to one and a half. We were always at war with eastasia. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3711
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Posted - 2013.06.19 23:25:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:I don't know or actually care how broke TEST is, but if their SRP is as truly backlogged as is being said, that's really bad for them.
I mean it's cool and all that they have big bros in ~*Elite PVP*~ propping them up in an attempt to repel the goons, but it's a dire situation for TEST after this fountain conflict settles, no matter who wins. If you've effectively stopped reimbursing capitals, your pilot morale is going to plummet and attrition rate is going to skyrocket.
I know you guys left the CFC like a year ago but enjoy the clusterfuck you've made for yourselves. As long as they can rely on PL/NC. (super)capital support, it's all good. Onward to victory !
This time they'll convince Shadoo to help them grind the CFC sov, I'm sure of it. I am a nullsec zealot. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3711
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Posted - 2013.06.19 23:28:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:Accusations? Against my alliance? Better hemhaw about spin and propaganda. Don't bother to back anything up, just flatly deny. the chocolate ration has been increased from one gram a day to one and a half. We were always at war with eastasia. I think it's great that their line members are willing to step up and grind their own ships for the sake of ... something, I don't know what.
But it's great nonetheless.
Also, they don't get Cheetos and Mountain Dew? I am a nullsec zealot. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
94
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Posted - 2013.06.19 23:48:00 -
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While I appreciate the tinfoil hattery of the OP, which has since been shown to be BS on Kugu, I'll post the Test Reimbursement stats made public on June 16th to all of Test.
A couple notes where that spreadsheet is wrong.
1. The estimates assume every ship is SRPed. They are not. Test members are reasonably wealthy and self sufficient, so many ship losses don't even go to SRP. Poor Test members get shipped up for free.
2. The SRP backlog is basic cash flow management and to limit theft opportunities from the wallet. Any request for urgent payout is honored almost immediately. The backlog exists because Test members don't rely on SRP to fund their hangars.
To give one an idea of how ironic the OP is, it's estimated that the CFC took 300 bill in losses in 36 hours between Fountain and the north last week, which if correct would be half of our "estimated" SRP over 45 days.
REIMBURSEMENT STATS A post, in which I attempt to smith words and end up creating graphs instead...
I've been enabled by our benevolent Dr. Kang to feed you all /*lies and propaganda*/ updates about the war. I thought, along with the next update, I'd include a small section about reimbursements. See, the CFC has started a rumor that we're not reimbursing anyone, because we're space-poor. I figured I could nip that in the bud. Well, I contacted Packet Ninja, who put me in touch with 47Magnum, who dumped a metric boatload of numbers in my lap! (47Magnum, you should post so we can upvote you for your assistance!)
Anyway, friends, it was too much information to just be a bullet point in a bigger update, so here's a whole post, dedicated to Reimbursement Stats!
First thing's first, the big number: Since late in the day on June 7th (the day we announced our move to Karan), we have approved 96,807,750,000 ISK in reimbursements.
For all of the rest of the stats and graphs, keep in mind: 1.) The reimbursement lags behind the events which get reimbursed. 2.) This is ONLY reimbursement. Not ships lost, not things that people didn't request reimbursement for, ONLY reimbursement.
To start: How good are we at following directions?
http://i.imgur.com/nhCubdZ.png
That's not bad! Let's break it down by corp - for these graphics, if your corp had less than 20 reimbursement requests, it got lumped into a big pie slice with the rest of the corps with < 20 requests.
http://i.imgur.com/I3Sz3ts.png
...and by the amount of isk to each of those corps....
http://i.imgur.com/AjqsJ5y.png
... And the top corps by amount (all corps with over 2b in reimbursement):
http://i.imgur.com/iDuFNGC.png
You may wonder which systems have been the bloodiest and most expensive for TEST? Well, I have the answers! As you'll see on this graph, though, at the time of the Karan move, we're still working through the NOL losses (hence the caveat about the lag time).
http://i.imgur.com/6scjdne.png
And we can also get those systems with the number of ships lost in each (though the graphs look about the same)...
https://forum.pleaseignore.com/topic/41382-an-update-on-the-war-with-graphs/
You may wonder what types of ships that TEST likes to die in? Maybe, what's the most cost-effective? Well, let's take a look. Keep in mind, Navy Apocs, while sexy, only get reimbursed at regular Apoc rates.
http://i.imgur.com/EpvjoWD.png
The naga only makes up about 15% of the isk reimbursed, but, in number of ships lost and reimbursed, it's the undisputed king:
http://i.imgur.com/4A8Jzhd.png Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
380
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:19:00 -
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They're only numbers on paper. Once you understand that, it's easy to make them behave. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
94
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:26:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:They're only numbers on paper. Once you understand that, it's easy to make them behave. I agree. Usually the group that starts talking about the ISK war is the group that is losing.
What matters is how quickly CFC is starting to lose space, moons and stations in the north, and going backwards on early gains in Fountain.
All of the tech wealth in the game apparently can't buy military success. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
380
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:27:00 -
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Something something river in egypt hurr durr test is bad. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
94
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:35:00 -
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What is there to deny? The truth favors us. Post whatever you want if you can prove it. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8270
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:38:00 -
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i dunno you seem proud to always play second fiddle every time it matters Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8270
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:45:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:While I appreciate the tinfoil hattery of the OP, which has since been shown to be BS on Kugu
yeah it turned out to be BS because test isn't pulling the R64 income we thought they were, because you sold your moons
and as it turns out the guy that said "hey let's sell our moons at a horribly low price" ended up being the one that bought most of them at a horribly low price Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
98
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:18:00 -
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Andski wrote: i dunno you seem proud to always play second fiddle every time it matters The neat thing about value judgments is that they are subjective, and so everyone can believe different things matter at different times. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Userkare
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
57
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:29:00 -
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Andski wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:While I appreciate the tinfoil hattery of the OP, which has since been shown to be BS on Kugu yeah it turned out to be BS because test isn't pulling the R64 income we thought they were, because you sold your moons and as it turns out the guy that said "hey let's sell our moons at a horribly low price" ended up being the one that bought most of them at a horribly low price
Baki argued against the sale. R64's are nationalized for the duration of the war. Also the ******* **** about us relying on allies. What the christ guys? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3711
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:33:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Andski wrote: i dunno you seem proud to always play second fiddle every time it matters The neat thing about value judgments is that they are subjective, and so everyone can believe different things matter at different times. Sure, let's just believe whatever you tell us then. I am a nullsec zealot. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
98
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:38:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Sure, let's just believe whatever you tell us then. I would never ask you to "believe me".
Belief requires an unbelievably low standard of proof. Trust the facts. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Userkare
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
57
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:40:00 -
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Man the desperation is palpable in these threads. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3711
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:52:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Sure, let's just believe whatever you tell us then. I would never ask you to "believe me". Belief requires an unbelievably low standard of proof. Trust the facts. Your wonderfully picked numbers, instead of our wonderfully picked numbers, right? I am a nullsec zealot. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8270
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:55:00 -
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Userkare wrote:Baki argued against the sale. R64's are nationalized for the duration of the war. Also the ******* **** about us relying on allies. What the christ guys?
it helps to be the guy that argued against a thing when somebody questions why you benefit from said thing far more than anybody else
and there's a difference between relying on allies and, as I said, invariably playing second fiddle to said allies whenever it actually matters
sure you can say "well your allies play second fiddle" but our allies are a fraction your size Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
84
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Posted - 2013.06.20 03:19:00 -
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Userkare wrote:Man the desperation is palpable in these threads.
Totally agree with you m8. My guess is, they are feeling the tide turning. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8271
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Posted - 2013.06.20 03:32:00 -
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Random Majere wrote:Userkare wrote:Man the desperation is palpable in these threads. Totally agree with you m8. My guess is, they are feeling the tide turning.
lol okay Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
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Callduron
425
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Posted - 2013.06.20 06:56:00 -
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Oh look: another "TEST is broke" thread rather than a battle report.
Guess it's not fun writing BRs if you lose the ones you don't blueball, eh Charles? |
Callduron
425
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Posted - 2013.06.20 07:00:00 -
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Scooter McCabe wrote:Varesk wrote:PROPAGANDA SPIN 101.
dont believe the goon. Okay let's hear from TEST's reimbursement team and Boodabooda. Better yet lets see their finances and a working API so TEST line members can see just how "OK" things are in TEST alliance right now.
Sorry, they're too busy laughing.
Is this some kind of long game mind trick aimed at getting us to dump a couple of trill into the reimbursement wallet all at once where some well-placed agent can steal it?
We dribble isk in because we have lots of people with access to that wallet paying people out.
Fortunately CFC is helping us with our backlog by losing all the fights. Our Reimbursement Team send their thanks! |
Callduron
425
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Posted - 2013.06.20 07:00:00 -
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Andski wrote:Random Majere wrote:Userkare wrote:Man the desperation is palpable in these threads. Totally agree with you m8. My guess is, they are feeling the tide turning. lol okay
You don't undock much, do you? |
Callduron
425
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Posted - 2013.06.20 07:01:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Andski wrote: i dunno you seem proud to always play second fiddle every time it matters The neat thing about value judgments is that they are subjective, and so everyone can believe different things matter at different times. Sure, let's just believe whatever you tell us then.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
HEY ALVARIA, MITTENS SAYS THE MOON IS MADE OF CHEESE
Lucky you're so cynical.... |
RazielZian
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2013.06.20 11:49:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Sure, let's just believe whatever you tell us then. I would never ask you to "believe me". Belief requires an unbelievably low standard of proof. Trust the facts. Your wonderfully picked numbers, instead of our wonderfully picked numbers, right?
When talking about TEST finances then yes, I'd take the word of one of the TEST financial staff over some random Goon member.
Any other stupid questions? Times change, evolve or die quietly. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
922
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Posted - 2013.06.20 12:05:00 -
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RazielZian wrote: When talking about TEST finances then yes, I'd take the word of one of the TEST financial staff over some random Goon member.
Any other stupid questions?
You shouldn't take anyone's word for it.
Your own leadership will lie to you to keep you calm.
Your enemies will lie to you to panic you.
Your friends will lie to you inadvertently because they listened to your leaders or your enemies.
Make your own conclusions.
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Wishdokkta CEO
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
35
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Posted - 2013.06.20 12:24:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:RazielZian wrote: When talking about TEST finances then yes, I'd take the word of one of the TEST financial staff over some random Goon member.
Any other stupid questions?
You shouldn't take anyone's word for it. Your own leadership will lie to you to keep you calm. Your enemies will lie to you to panic you. Your friends will lie to you inadvertently because they listened to your leaders or your enemies. Make your own conclusions.
I agree with my right honourable and former esteemed colleague from the EXE constituency. The figures that both sides are quoting are utterly meaningless.
Only an independently audited set of figures has any weight, and in EVE, there is no independent.
All there is in here is shouting, p3nis waving and a lot of bluster.
Less typing more fighting, the outcome of this war will become apparent in time, despite how much propoganda is posted. |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards
362
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Posted - 2013.06.20 12:36:00 -
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I've donated 103mil ISK to TEST's holding corp UPVOTE thus far.
Hope that helps a little. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
545
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Posted - 2013.06.20 14:34:00 -
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Callduron wrote:Oh look: another "TEST is broke" thread rather than a battle report.
Guess it's not fun writing BRs if you lose the ones you don't blueball, eh Charles?
I gotta post something. Clearly this is the toughest opponent we have ever faced. I'm not even sure we will survive this one.
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Lai HasCake
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
13
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Posted - 2013.06.20 14:42:00 -
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Jesus Christ you know that TEST went "broke" before and stopped reimbursement, do you know what happened to fleet attendance? nothing it actually went up |
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
545
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Posted - 2013.06.20 14:44:00 -
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Lai HasCake wrote:Jesus Christ you know that TEST went "broke" before and stopped reimbursement, do you know what happened to fleet attendance? nothing it actually went up
Cool, then by the time this is over TEST will have the biggest fleets EVE has ever seen then! Oh my god guys! What have we done?!?!? |
Ametyste Aek
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2013.06.20 15:28:00 -
[42] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Lai HasCake wrote:Jesus Christ you know that TEST went "broke" before and stopped reimbursement, do you know what happened to fleet attendance? nothing it actually went up Cool, then by the time this is over TEST will have the biggest fleets EVE has ever seen then! Oh my god guys! What have we done?!?!?
So far ? Not much i'd have to say. Tbh we're starting to be concerned about your financial situation, you know, having to pay every now and then to get a cap fleet out, stuff like that. Maybe we're going to spend some time writing an elaborated article about how it is affecting your finances and you're going bankrupt, or we just really don't care enough. You choose. |
boliano
Arch Angels Assault Force Mildly Sober
2
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Posted - 2013.06.20 16:09:00 -
[43] - Quote
Not for nothing. But who cares if test is broke or not. As long as theres content and fun on both sides. Long as pilots from both sides keep showing up to fight. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
546
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Posted - 2013.06.20 16:56:00 -
[44] - Quote
boliano wrote:Not for nothing. But who cares if test is broke or not. As long as theres content and fun on both sides. Long as pilots from both sides keep showing up to fight.
That's the point. Because they're broke people will stop showing up to fleets once they stop getting reimbursed, no matter how much and how loud all the pubs yell that they are better off and how they have never had so much fun. The question here is not if TEST will collapse because they are ISKless, it how much time will it take.
Reality just works that way, it doesn't care about your make believe opinions (sorry Calldruon and Anime Caldari Name ;/ ). |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
923
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Posted - 2013.06.20 16:57:00 -
[45] - Quote
Thank god we have the voice of reason and experience from the "Arch Angels Assault Force" which of course is a part of that well know sov warfare alliance "Mildly Sober". "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Vercinget0rix
Eclipse Navy. Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:25:00 -
[46] - Quote
boliano wrote:Not for nothing. But who cares if test is broke or not. As long as theres content and fun on both sides. Long as pilots from both sides keep showing up to fight.
I don't give a **** about how much money is in the alliance wallet or if my ships are going to be reimbursed. I joined for the pew. Nothing more, nothing less. If I go broke shooting internet spaceships in an internet game, I'll live. It's not like I can't make more ISK (wait, you mean people can pay for their own ship losses in an alliance war?!?!).
Thanks CFC for all the fish. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
546
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:57:00 -
[47] - Quote
Vercinget0rix wrote:I don't give a **** about how much money is in the alliance wallet or if my ships are going to be reimbursed. I joined for the pew. Nothing more, nothing less. If I go broke shooting internet spaceships in an internet game, I'll live. It's not like I can't make more ISK (wait, you mean people can pay for their own ship losses in an alliance war?!?!).
Thanks CFC for all the fish.
Yeah ok Eclipse Navydot thanks for making TEST the powerhouse it is today. With members like you it has nothing to worry about. Success and victory is assured!
edit: hahahah you've been in TEST for like 2 months, clearly you will stick around ~~through thick and thin~~ |
Callduron
429
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:02:00 -
[48] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Lai HasCake wrote:Jesus Christ you know that TEST went "broke" before and stopped reimbursement, do you know what happened to fleet attendance? nothing it actually went up Cool, then by the time this is over TEST will have the biggest fleets EVE has ever seen then! Oh my god guys! What have we done?!?!?
Erm, we do have the biggest fleets Eve has ever seen from a single alliance.
But please feel free to audit a spreadsheet angrily about it or whatever it is you chaps do when you're losing. |
Elvis Fett
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
192
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:03:00 -
[49] - Quote
I don't really care much about the war, or who's e-peen is bigger. But when it comes to this thread I think you won.
Ka'Narlist wrote:Charles Case wrote:So there you have it, TEST is doing fine guys, nbd. Thx was searching for a tldr;
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Callduron
429
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:11:00 -
[50] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Vercinget0rix wrote:I don't give a **** about how much money is in the alliance wallet or if my ships are going to be reimbursed. I joined for the pew. Nothing more, nothing less. If I go broke shooting internet spaceships in an internet game, I'll live. It's not like I can't make more ISK (wait, you mean people can pay for their own ship losses in an alliance war?!?!).
Thanks CFC for all the fish. Yeah ok Eclipse Navydot thanks for making TEST the powerhouse it is today. With members like you it has nothing to worry about. Success and victory is assured! edit: hahahah you've been in TEST for like 2 months, clearly you will stick around ~~through thick and thin~~
Oh hey more reg date snobbery.
Let me break it down for you:
- reg date snobbery has always been lame as all heck.
- the art of good posting lies in responding to the text on the right (aka the post) rather than the text on the left (aka the profile).
- reg date snobbery went out everywhere except SA and Kugu at least 3 years ago. It's as dated as "All your bases" and even less funny.
- your terrible posting reflects badly on the site you purport to come from
- Eclipse Navy are awesome
- no one in TEST (ok one dude) gives a toss about reg date. It's a game guild and the people that matter are the people we're playing with and the people in our forum and other games community. That's why TEST is awesome and Goons suck.
Now why don't you crawl back to the GSF forums and angrily audit everyone's reg date because over there someone might actually be bothered. |
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
546
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:27:00 -
[51] - Quote
Callduron wrote:angrily calling other people angry
You know what's lame? The "I am having so much fun and will be with [insert pub corp name here] forever and i don't care what happens! see you in the battlefield " nonsense.
edit: and you've been with said pubbie corp for like a month :3 |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
546
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:31:00 -
[52] - Quote
Callduron have you ever heard the saying "actions speak louder than words?"
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Callduron
429
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:36:00 -
[53] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Callduron have you ever heard the saying "actions speak louder than words?"
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18323165 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18325391
I'm a multitasker. I kill your SBUs while posting. At the moment I'm cooking dinner while posting
Brb, think the veg needs to be started now. |
boliano
Arch Angels Assault Force Mildly Sober
5
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:43:00 -
[54] - Quote
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Thank god we have the voice of reason and experience from the "Arch Angels Assault Force" which of course is a part of that well know sov warfare alliance "Mildly Sober".
Lol. And i love you too. |
Callduron
429
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:48:00 -
[55] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Callduron wrote:angrily calling other people angry You know what's lame..... fun
Wow, just wow.
OK I'm selectively quoting but that is essentially what your post comes down to. And that's why CFC will lose the war.
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
548
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:57:00 -
[56] - Quote
Is this you Callduron? |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
119
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:57:00 -
[57] - Quote
Reposted from another forum where Weaselior was shut up quite nicely
Quote:I dislike facts. It is an ugly word. I prefer truth. And the truth is, you are right, no one in Test is getting reimbursed at all and our capital pilots are having to purchase their own fuel.
And the truth is, we are still halting and even rolling back your progress. With no ISK, ******** pilots, autistic FC's and the apparent inability to know who to trust with roles.
There's the truth. Flak your facts. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
548
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:00:00 -
[58] - Quote
Callduron wrote:
Wow, just wow.
OK I'm selectively quoting but that is essentially what your post comes down to. And that's why CFC will lose the war.
I know, that's why we have always lost every war we get into |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
548
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:02:00 -
[59] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Reposted from another forum where Weaselior was shut up quite nicely Quote:I dislike facts. It is an ugly word. I prefer truth. And the truth is, you are right, no one in Test is getting reimbursed at all and our capital pilots are having to purchase their own fuel.
And the truth is, we are still halting and even rolling back your progress. With no ISK, ******** pilots, autistic FC's and the apparent inability to know who to trust with roles.
There's the truth. Flak your facts.
Wow Weaselior really got you wound up didn't he? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3713
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:04:00 -
[60] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Reposted from another forum where Weaselior was shut up quite nicely Quote:I dislike facts. It is an ugly word. I prefer truth. And the truth is, you are right, no one in Test is getting reimbursed at all and our capital pilots are having to purchase their own fuel.
And the truth is, we are still halting and even rolling back your progress. With no ISK, ******** pilots, autistic FC's and the apparent inability to know who to trust with roles.
There's the truth. Flak your facts. Wow Weaselior really got you wound up didn't he? Posting OP: Success.
Tell Boat, we need round-the clock forums shooting. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
122
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:07:00 -
[61] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Your wonderfully picked numbers, instead of our wonderfully picked numbers, right? Your numbers are claimed to be estimates. Looking at how they were estimated, they present an absolute worst case scenario.
Our numbers are the numbers we're given. If someone is lying after claiming to give us the official numbers (and it is possible) then they will lose all credibility.
See, he's not a weasel for nothing. Your guy did what Endie does. He paints a terrible picture and then walks away whistling, "it may be like that".....
At the end of the day, if you want to believe we're broke, as I get my payouts and I continue to ship up to fight and our caps are fueled and sov bills are paid, so be it. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
122
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:08:00 -
[62] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Wow Weaselior really got you wound up didn't he? It's not my post.
Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Callduron
431
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:10:00 -
[63] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Callduron wrote:
Wow, just wow.
OK I'm selectively quoting but that is essentially what your post comes down to. And that's why CFC will lose the war.
I know, that's why we have always lost every war we get into
2013 Goons are nothing like the bright-eyed Rifter heroes that made your guild a success. You're 90% pubbie j4gs, you're intensely proud of how awesome at Eve you are, you see the game as a chance to build a space empire rather than an opportunity to **** with pubbies, you're smug about reg date and scornful of corps without your elite status.
Your coalition which started as a partnership of equals is seeing the alpha alliance threatening to commissar alliances with low participation stats, telling alliances to kick half their members or get reset, forcing impoverished allies to fly tengus and tfis.
That's why CFC will lose the war.
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
550
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:10:00 -
[64] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Your wonderfully picked numbers, instead of our wonderfully picked numbers, right? Your numbers are claimed to be estimates. Looking at how they were estimated, they present an absolute worst case scenario. Our numbers are the numbers we're given. If someone is lying after claiming to give us the official numbers (and it is possible) then they will lose all credibility. See, he's not a weasel for nothing. Your guy did what Endie does. He paints a terrible picture and then walks away whistling, "it may be like that"..... At the end of the day, if you want to believe we're broke, as I get my payouts and I continue to ship up to fight and our caps are fueled and sov bills are paid, so be it.
Hahaha so Endie's got you all frumpled too?!? Oh Anime Caldari Name you are disappointing me. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
122
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 20:10:00 -
[65] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Posting OP: Success.
Tell Boat, we need round-the clock forums shooting. I have bad news my dear. You guys are making less progress on the forums than you are in Fountain, and you're making zero progress in Fountain. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
550
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:11:00 -
[66] - Quote
Callduron wrote: you see the game as a chance to build a space empire rather than an opportunity to **** with pubbies,
This is just wrong. We will ALWAYS take the opportunity to **** with you.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8275
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:12:00 -
[67] - Quote
Callduron wrote:You're 90% pubbie j4gs
if only we were 99% pubbie j4gs like test, then you'd like us more Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
550
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:12:00 -
[68] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: I have bad news my dear. You guys are making less progress on the forums than you are in Fountain, and you're making zero progress in Fountain.
Zero progress in the forums?!?! Tell that to your Weaselior and Endie sperg posts. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
122
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:15:00 -
[69] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Hahaha so Endie's got you all frumpled too?!? Oh Anime Caldari Name you are disappointing me. Endie is brilliant at what he does. He doesn't bother me one whit because I understand what he does and how he does it.
To be completely honest with you, I'm actually pretty disappointed in the quality of Goon propaganda and posting.
I am not saying Test is better. We're probably as bad or worse.
It's just I thought you guys had this reputation for being great at it and I am not seeing it. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Callduron
431
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:16:00 -
[70] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Callduron wrote: you see the game as a chance to build a space empire rather than an opportunity to **** with pubbies,
This is just wrong. We will ALWAYS take the opportunity to **** with you.
Look around dude. The only person from your coalition making even half-decent rebuttals is you. |
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
122
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:16:00 -
[71] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Zero progress in the forums?!?! Tell that to your Weaselior and Endie sperg posts. I said you were making negative progress.
Relax. Breathe deeply.
Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Callduron
431
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:16:00 -
[72] - Quote
Andski wrote:Callduron wrote:You're 90% pubbie j4gs if only we were 99% pubbie j4gs like test, then you'd like us more
We don't care, you do. That's the difference. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3714
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:16:00 -
[73] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Callduron wrote: you see the game as a chance to build a space empire rather than an opportunity to **** with pubbies, This is just wrong. We will ALWAYS take the opportunity to **** with you. Ask the forums if they enjoy having us around. The answer is obvious.
Charles Case wrote: Zero progress in the forums?!?! Tell that to your Weaselior and Endie sperg posts.
High quality sperg, it is to be savored.
Andski wrote:Callduron wrote:You're 90% pubbie j4gs if only we were 99% pubbie j4gs like test, then you'd like us more We now have a bunch of J4LPs too. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8277
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:17:00 -
[74] - Quote
Callduron wrote:Your coalition which started as a partnership of equals is seeing the alpha alliance threatening to commissar alliances with low participation stats, telling alliances to kick half their members or get reset, forcing impoverished allies to fly tengus and tfis.
yeah clearly if we had valued OWN Alliance and AIF as valuable allies despite horrible participation you wouldn't stand a chance Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3714
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:17:00 -
[75] - Quote
Andski wrote:Callduron wrote:Your coalition which started as a partnership of equals is seeing the alpha alliance threatening to commissar alliances with low participation stats, telling alliances to kick half their members or get reset, forcing impoverished allies to fly tengus and tfis. yeah clearly if we had valued OWN Alliance and AIF as valuable allies despite horrible participation you wouldn't stand a chance Who were they? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
550
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:19:00 -
[76] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Charles Case wrote:Wow Weaselior really got you wound up didn't he? It's not my post.
Ummmm but it is your post?
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Reposted from another forum where Weaselior was shut up quite nicely
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Callduron
432
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:19:00 -
[77] - Quote
Andski wrote:Callduron wrote:Your coalition which started as a partnership of equals is seeing the alpha alliance threatening to commissar alliances with low participation stats, telling alliances to kick half their members or get reset, forcing impoverished allies to fly tengus and tfis. yeah clearly if we had valued OWN Alliance and AIF as valuable allies despite horrible participation you wouldn't stand a chance
"Didn't want that friend anyway." |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
125
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:20:00 -
[78] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Charles Case wrote:Wow Weaselior really got you wound up didn't he? It's not my post. Ummmm but it is your post? Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Reposted from another forum where Weaselior was shut up quite nicely
No, it's actually not my post. I have never posted on K.com. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8277
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:23:00 -
[79] - Quote
Callduron wrote:"Didn't want that friend anyway."
apparently you believe that we should just let non-participating allies hold moons and space despite not pulling their weight
interesting, tell me more Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Callduron
432
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:24:00 -
[80] - Quote
Andski wrote:Callduron wrote:"Didn't want that friend anyway." apparently you believe that we should just let non-participating allies hold moons and space despite not pulling their weight interesting, tell me more
No no, please continue to audit all your friends and commissar the ones falling below centrally planned productivity levels.
It's working out pretty well for TEST. |
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
125
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:24:00 -
[81] - Quote
Andski wrote:Callduron wrote:"Didn't want that friend anyway." apparently you believe that we should just let non-participating allies hold moons and space despite not pulling their weight interesting, tell me more Don't let Calderon tell you how to run your space empire. You guys are doing just fine without his help. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
550
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:50:00 -
[82] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: No, it's actually not my post. I have never posted on K.com.
No. you reposted a sperg post with your own spergy jab.
Here:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Reposted from another forum where Weaselior was shut up quite nicely
a) That was not a nice put down b) Weaselior was not shut up, he replied to the sperg post and kept posting. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
125
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Posted - 2013.06.20 21:14:00 -
[83] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: No, it's actually not my post. I have never posted on K.com.
No. you reposted a sperg post with your own spergy jab. I don't think it was a jab. More like a statement of truth and freedom.
Charles Case wrote: a) That was not a nice put down b) Weaselior was not shut up, he replied to the sperg post and kept posting.
No, he was shut up. His comeback was very weak.
It's irrelevant since his post has been debunked, and we continue to get SRP making the Goon claims seem pretty desperate considering how bad things are going in Fountain. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
384
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Posted - 2013.06.21 09:05:00 -
[84] - Quote
What I dont understand is this: If TEST has such rich space that even the CFC wants to go to war over it then why do Goons keep claiming TEST is broke? :/ |
Divine Suicide
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2013.06.21 09:24:00 -
[85] - Quote
Confirming that TEST is so poor that cap ops are not reimbursed for fuel.
:911: |
Callduron
437
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Posted - 2013.06.21 10:51:00 -
[86] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:What I dont understand is this: If TEST has such rich space that even the CFC wants to go to war over it then why do Goons keep claiming TEST is broke? :/
Liars like to lie. |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards
365
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:09:00 -
[87] - Quote
Hey, things could always be worse.
CFC was earning, what, at least 3 trillion ISK per month in passive income when tech was at its peak? At least 2 at its average price over a two-year period?
Now they're pulling in 5 cents on the dollar from its peak, and about 8 or 9 cents on the dollar from its two year average.
They even did NCDOT an enormous favor by kicking them out of Tribute and Vale - which is worthless, and I'll bet N3 gets more in rental income than the CFC does from every one of its tech moons combined.
They've whelped what, 1 trillion ISK now in the fight for Fountain, which they project will be worth 200 billion ISK in R64 income in a few months? The R64 value of which is currently worth only half that. Roughly equal to those Gents CSAAs that went down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
926
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:28:00 -
[88] - Quote
Ah well if wars in EVE are all about isk won vs isk lost fighting then I guess everyone better evac to High sec and never undock. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Valince Olacar
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
0
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:22:00 -
[89] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:What I dont understand is this: If TEST has such rich space that even the CFC wants to go to war over it then why do Goons keep claiming TEST is broke? :/
Allegedly TEST doesn't own those moons.. Although test space become a bunch more valuable recently with the patch |
Esharan
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
102
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:28:00 -
[90] - Quote
Clearly they aren't THAT broke.
Just gave Brave Newbies a substantial amount of ISK for nothing but "fun"
Therefore OP post seems like propaganda. |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
340
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Posted - 2013.06.21 16:25:00 -
[91] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Reposted from another forum where Weaselior was shut up quite nicely Quote:I dislike facts. It is an ugly word. I prefer truth. And the truth is, you are right, no one in Test is getting reimbursed at all and our capital pilots are having to purchase their own fuel.
And the truth is, we are still halting and even rolling back your progress. With no ISK, ******** pilots, autistic FC's and the apparent inability to know who to trust with roles.
There's the truth. Flak your facts. lawl you actually thought that rob3r post was a rebuttal |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
340
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Posted - 2013.06.21 16:26:00 -
[92] - Quote
~weaselior is lying our reimbursements are fine~
they just happen to be backlogged more than the entire fountain reimbursements according to our own reimburser but ignore those vile goon lies |
Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
635
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Posted - 2013.06.21 16:57:00 -
[93] - Quote
Esharan wrote:Clearly they aren't THAT broke.
Just gave Brave Newbies a substantial amount of ISK for nothing but "fun"
Therefore OP post seems like propaganda.
The amount of isk that Brave Newbies got was not substantial in the scope of mega-alliance income. Just because you've never seen a 5 dollar bill before doesn't make it a lot of money. |
Kelmurdoch
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:25:00 -
[94] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:~weaselior is lying our reimbursements are fine~
they just happen to be backlogged more than the entire fountain reimbursements according to our own reimburser but ignore those vile goon lies
I see lots of statements like this, but vanishingly few instances of confirmation.
Where's the vaunted Good spy network? Shouldn't they have screenshotted our stuff and repost it here as proof?
Otherwise, why would Goonswarm's reimbursement group be a source of truth on Test's reimbursement? |
Kelmurdoch
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:26:00 -
[95] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote:Esharan wrote:Clearly they aren't THAT broke.
Just gave Brave Newbies a substantial amount of ISK for nothing but "fun"
Therefore OP post seems like propaganda. The amount of isk that Brave Newbies got was not substantial in the scope of mega-alliance income. Just because you've never seen a 5 dollar bill before doesn't make it a lot of money.
You're right. It wouldn't buy a single Apoc fleet.
But it buys a hell of alot of frigates, destroyers and cruisers. And for an alliance known for its frigate, destroyers and cruisers, this seems like just the thing.
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Tribal Band
320
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:51:00 -
[96] - Quote
If TEST is so broke, why you coming to Fountain? Doesn't make much sense if there is no money there.
Goon propoganda dept needs an enema. Free Ripley Weaver! |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
340
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:26:00 -
[97] - Quote
Kelmurdoch wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:~weaselior is lying our reimbursements are fine~
they just happen to be backlogged more than the entire fountain reimbursements according to our own reimburser but ignore those vile goon lies I see lots of statements like this, but vanishingly few instances of confirmation. Where's the vaunted Good spy network? Shouldn't they have screenshotted our stuff and repost it here as proof? Otherwise, why would Goonswarm's reimbursement group be a source of truth on Test's reimbursement? you see, my post was a post in the voice of a test pilot someone already made a caod thread about the proof, your reimburser dude posted on reddit |
Ersahi Kir
Infinite Mobility SpaceMonkey's Alliance
195
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:09:00 -
[98] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:If TEST is so broke, why you coming to Fountain? Doesn't make much sense if there is no money there.
Goon propoganda dept needs an enema.
June 4
It's like something changed recently or something. |
Rattman
Straya. Scrap Iron Flotilla.
1
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Posted - 2013.06.23 21:42:00 -
[99] - Quote
News in According to fawlty7 the goons AUTZ FC. N3 is supplying isk/ships to the TEST SRP program
Also Elvis and bigfoot were spotted getting a room at a love hotel |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
159
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Posted - 2013.06.24 00:54:00 -
[100] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:~weaselior is lying our reimbursements are fine~
they just happen to be backlogged more than the entire fountain reimbursements according to our own reimburser but ignore those vile goon lies Let's say Weaselior is right. Our reimbursements may be backed up months.
Why are we still beating you guys all over the battlefield? Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
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Callduron
447
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:15:00 -
[101] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:~weaselior is lying our reimbursements are fine~
they just happen to be backlogged more than the entire fountain reimbursements according to our own reimburser but ignore those vile goon lies Let's say Weaselior is right. Our reimbursements may be backed up months. Why are we still beating you guys all over the battlefield?
Hey did you know that if you rearrange the letters in Weaselior's name you get Eew, so liar!
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Callduron
447
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:18:00 -
[102] - Quote
Esharan wrote:Clearly they aren't THAT broke.
Just gave Brave Newbies a substantial amount of ISK for nothing but "fun"
Therefore OP post seems like propaganda.
It could be priorities.
Losing all our sov v being good to our friends. Second one is what I hope our leadership would choose. |
Callduron
447
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:20:00 -
[103] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:If TEST is so broke, why you coming to Fountain? Doesn't make much sense if there is no money there.
Goon propoganda dept needs an enema.
Goon Empire is currently propped up by SMA, CO2, FCON, FA, and Li3. With friends like those who needs enemas? |
boliano
Arch Angels Assault Force Mildly Sober
6
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:40:00 -
[104] - Quote
Okokok so test is broke. They have no isk to fund the war machine, and cfc owns fountain cause of it?
Oh wait........ |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8286
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:13:00 -
[105] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:~weaselior is lying our reimbursements are fine~
they just happen to be backlogged more than the entire fountain reimbursements according to our own reimburser but ignore those vile goon lies Let's say Weaselior is right. Our reimbursements may be backed up months. Why are we still beating you guys all over the battlefield?
Because you're being propped up by ncdot? Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Callduron
447
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:19:00 -
[106] - Quote
Andski wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:~weaselior is lying our reimbursements are fine~
they just happen to be backlogged more than the entire fountain reimbursements according to our own reimburser but ignore those vile goon lies Let's say Weaselior is right. Our reimbursements may be backed up months. Why are we still beating you guys all over the battlefield? Because you're being propped up by ncdot?
We're not spending much because you guys are cowarding out.
Except for that hilarious dreadwelp your Black Legion "friends" set you up for. And Aerallo personally reimbursed most of TEST's losses in that (suicide triage and fighter bombers). CAOD https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=266: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
425
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:43:00 -
[107] - Quote
Varesk wrote:PROPAGANDA SPIN 101.
dont believe the goon.
Then don't accept his isk either.... |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
325
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:03:00 -
[108] - Quote
This thread, and every other thread about this war.
My impression of the war so far
I'm having fun Test is in good spirits I have plenty of ships and cash I don't have to log in to make isk because I make forum sigs
But I just woke up and it looks like I missed a brawl in EI-O0O
According to the BR I'm reading: Goons lost 7 dreads and about 21 megathrons, a bunch of bombers, cruisers and other small things Test lost 49 apocs and geddons (2 of which were navy issue apocs) NC. lost some domis Black Legion also lost a bunch of domis (and I don't know who they were shooting at)
See how fun the game can be if you actually form up and fight? A proper war between TEST and Goons is just what nullsec needs. Blue donuts are boring. We need Goons to stop trying to strategically blueball us out of our space, in between sneaking out of B-D to shoot at structures with wolves and bombers and burning spies with roles to flip SBUs instead of forming up to contest timers. If you actually DO form up then we can all enjoy these good times together as frenemies.
Still... Might want to stop losing dreads. |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
447
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:41:00 -
[109] - Quote
Tara Read wrote:Varesk wrote:PROPAGANDA SPIN 101.
dont believe the goon. Then don't accept his isk either....
Eve is a harsh harsh universe in which nasty people take your isk then lead all your dreads into an ignominious welp.
I believe this is working as intended. CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
245
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Posted - 2013.06.24 08:20:00 -
[110] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:~weaselior is lying our reimbursements are fine~
they just happen to be backlogged more than the entire fountain reimbursements according to our own reimburser but ignore those vile goon lies Let's say Weaselior is right. Our reimbursements may be backed up months. Why are we still beating you guys all over the battlefield?
You're not through, test only fleets, when they undock die in a fire. PL and NCDOT are proving to be the resistance. Their capital fleets and desire to drop them is what's saving tests bacon. |
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Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
447
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Posted - 2013.06.24 08:50:00 -
[111] - Quote
How's them Goon only fleets - without SMA, FCON, FA, Li3, Gents, Co2, Razor, XDeath, etc - been doing so far in Fountain? CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
427
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:01:00 -
[112] - Quote
Callduron wrote:Tara Read wrote:Varesk wrote:PROPAGANDA SPIN 101.
dont believe the goon. Then don't accept his isk either.... Eve is a harsh harsh universe in which nasty people take your isk then lead all your dreads into an ignominious welp. I believe this is working as intended.
You wouldn't know harsh if it bent you over and stole what virginity you have left. When Goonswarm was in it's infancy (back when Goons were actually Goons and not this diplomatic fa&^otry) Null Sec was chaos. Daily feeds were pasted every time one would log on to see updates on the Great War.
It was beautiful. Coalitions were formed not out of mutual benefit, political grab assing, brown nosing but out of sheer survival. Titans were still monsters that haunted pilots dreams and the inevitable DD was on the forefront of any fleet members mind...
There were no ship replacement funds, cries for mommy to hold your hand, or replace your god awful bland disgusting Drake... God forbid your FC's have to maneuver New Eden without the aid of a Titan Bridge or a Cyno...
Back then FC's were revered for their utmost skill, not in cookie cutter doctrine's pasted on some Reddit page where drones and meat sacks could have the information pumped into them like a ******** cow full of hormones....
In other words you ALL are cancer. Every last soft, isk accepting, pasty faced, gutter trash who's "greed is good" bumper sticker on the back of their own personal Super justifies the slow decline of what once was the greatest and harshest game in existence.
From your local spamming muppets, to Black Legion's castration, to Goonswarm's fat bloated whale slowly crushing us under it's weight of over bloated mediocrity, the rest of us suffer.
All of you must burn. Every last one of you. Why? because that is the only hope this game has of surviving the crushing greed and selfishness your Alliances has plagued the rest of us with...
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
245
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:20:00 -
[113] - Quote
Callduron wrote:How's them Goon only fleets - without SMA, FCON, FA, Li3, Gents, Co2, Razor, XDeath, etc - been doing so far in Fountain?
There's no metric on that other than evekill. It's rare to have goon only fleets, all the special interest groups are open to the cfc. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3257
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:00:00 -
[114] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:~weaselior is lying our reimbursements are fine~
they just happen to be backlogged more than the entire fountain reimbursements according to our own reimburser but ignore those vile goon lies Let's say Weaselior is right. Our reimbursements may be backed up months. Why are we still beating you guys all over the battlefield?
Let's say you guys are beating us all over the battlefield. Why are you still losing moons?
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Roderick Grey
Broski North Black Legion.
401
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:03:00 -
[115] - Quote
Tara Read wrote:Callduron wrote:Tara Read wrote:Varesk wrote:PROPAGANDA SPIN 101.
dont believe the goon. Then don't accept his isk either.... Eve is a harsh harsh universe in which nasty people take your isk then lead all your dreads into an ignominious welp. I believe this is working as intended. You wouldn't know harsh if it bent you over and stole what virginity you have left. When Goonswarm was in it's infancy (back when Goons were actually Goons and not this diplomatic fa&^otry) Null Sec was chaos. Daily feeds were pasted every time one would log on to see updates on the Great War. It was beautiful. Coalitions were formed not out of mutual benefit, political grab assing, brown nosing but out of sheer survival. Titans were still monsters that haunted pilots dreams and the inevitable DD was on the forefront of any fleet members mind... There were no ship replacement funds, cries for mommy to hold your hand, or replace your god awful bland disgusting Drake... God forbid your FC's have to maneuver New Eden without the aid of a Titan Bridge or a Cyno... Back then FC's were revered for their utmost skill, not in cookie cutter doctrine's pasted on some Reddit page where drones and meat sacks could have the information pumped into them like a ******** cow full of hormones.... In other words you ALL are cancer. Every last soft, isk accepting, pasty faced, gutter trash who's "greed is good" bumper sticker on the back of their own personal Super justifies the slow decline of what once was the greatest and harshest game in existence. From your local spamming muppets, to Black Legion's castration, to Goonswarm's fat bloated whale slowly crushing us under it's weight of over bloated mediocrity, the rest of us suffer. All of you must burn. Every last one of you. Why? because that is the only hope this game has of surviving the crushing greed and selfishness your Alliances has plagued the rest of us with...
This is probably the worst piece of sperg I have ever seen.
If you don't want to be a part of NullSec, don't be a part of it, stay in your Losec alliance and enjoy yourself instead of ranting on NullSec related threads shouting your uneducated opinions on NullSec workings and politics. GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon. |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
447
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:27:00 -
[116] - Quote
That was a brilliant rant, Wodders.
"back in my day beer was thruppence a pint and you young 'uns woulda got a clip round the earhole if you'd talked back to your elders."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo
Say hi to Marcko for me, Tara! CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
88
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Posted - 2013.06.24 12:15:00 -
[117] - Quote
Tara Read wrote:Callduron wrote:Tara Read wrote:Varesk wrote:PROPAGANDA SPIN 101.
dont believe the goon. Then don't accept his isk either.... Eve is a harsh harsh universe in which nasty people take your isk then lead all your dreads into an ignominious welp. I believe this is working as intended. You wouldn't know harsh if it bent you over and stole what virginity you have left. When Goonswarm was in it's infancy (back when Goons were actually Goons and not this diplomatic fa&^otry) Null Sec was chaos. Daily feeds were pasted every time one would log on to see updates on the Great War. It was beautiful. Coalitions were formed not out of mutual benefit, political grab assing, brown nosing but out of sheer survival. Titans were still monsters that haunted pilots dreams and the inevitable DD was on the forefront of any fleet members mind... There were no ship replacement funds, cries for mommy to hold your hand, or replace your god awful bland disgusting Drake... God forbid your FC's have to maneuver New Eden without the aid of a Titan Bridge or a Cyno... Back then FC's were revered for their utmost skill, not in cookie cutter doctrine's pasted on some Reddit page where drones and meat sacks could have the information pumped into them like a ******** cow full of hormones.... In other words you ALL are cancer. Every last soft, isk accepting, pasty faced, gutter trash who's "greed is good" bumper sticker on the back of their own personal Super justifies the slow decline of what once was the greatest and harshest game in existence. From your local spamming muppets, to Black Legion's castration, to Goonswarm's fat bloated whale slowly crushing us under it's weight of over bloated mediocrity, the rest of us suffer. All of you must burn. Every last one of you. Why? because that is the only hope this game has of surviving the crushing greed and selfishness your Alliances has plagued the rest of us with... people fly caracals not drakes now fyi |
Kelmurdoch
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:30:00 -
[118] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:~weaselior is lying our reimbursements are fine~
they just happen to be backlogged more than the entire fountain reimbursements according to our own reimburser but ignore those vile goon lies Let's say Weaselior is right. Our reimbursements may be backed up months. Why are we still beating you guys all over the battlefield? Let's say you guys are beating us all over the battlefield. Why are you still losing moons?
I love how the goalposts keep moving.
What moons have we lost?
An we'd point to Goon moons lost/retaken, but evidently they are all run from a Goon corp that can't be API scraped to killboards because it has no corporate API key.
But then again that would be awfully convenient from a propaganda perspective.
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Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
429
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:07:00 -
[119] - Quote
Roderick Grey wrote:Tara Read wrote:Callduron wrote:Tara Read wrote:Varesk wrote:PROPAGANDA SPIN 101.
dont believe the goon. Then don't accept his isk either.... Eve is a harsh harsh universe in which nasty people take your isk then lead all your dreads into an ignominious welp. I believe this is working as intended. You wouldn't know harsh if it bent you over and stole what virginity you have left. When Goonswarm was in it's infancy (back when Goons were actually Goons and not this diplomatic fa&^otry) Null Sec was chaos. Daily feeds were pasted every time one would log on to see updates on the Great War. It was beautiful. Coalitions were formed not out of mutual benefit, political grab assing, brown nosing but out of sheer survival. Titans were still monsters that haunted pilots dreams and the inevitable DD was on the forefront of any fleet members mind... There were no ship replacement funds, cries for mommy to hold your hand, or replace your god awful bland disgusting Drake... God forbid your FC's have to maneuver New Eden without the aid of a Titan Bridge or a Cyno... Back then FC's were revered for their utmost skill, not in cookie cutter doctrine's pasted on some Reddit page where drones and meat sacks could have the information pumped into them like a ******** cow full of hormones.... In other words you ALL are cancer. Every last soft, isk accepting, pasty faced, gutter trash who's "greed is good" bumper sticker on the back of their own personal Super justifies the slow decline of what once was the greatest and harshest game in existence. From your local spamming muppets, to Black Legion's castration, to Goonswarm's fat bloated whale slowly crushing us under it's weight of over bloated mediocrity, the rest of us suffer. All of you must burn. Every last one of you. Why? because that is the only hope this game has of surviving the crushing greed and selfishness your Alliances has plagued the rest of us with... This is probably the worst piece of sperg I have ever seen. If you don't want to be a part of NullSec, don't be a part of it, stay in your Losec alliance and enjoy yourself instead of ranting on NullSec related threads shouting your uneducated opinions on NullSec workings and politics.
That is like saying "If you live in the rich part of town enjoy yourself instead of ranting on poor area's politics." The point is Null Sec effects the rest of us. Like all things in Eve certain events, actions, deals, agreements etc no matter how big or small in some form or fashion effects the greater player base.
From market prices, to ship changes, to module effectiveness, to doctrine Null Sec in and of itself has a resounding impact on other players whether we like it to or not. And therein lies the issue.
No one goes unaffected by an imbalance of representation in for example the CSM or influence in steering the game in a direction that may only benefit a certain group of players instead of the greater Eve community. A stunning example of this (and one of the many grievances and hatreds against them) was Band Of Brothers and their illicit cheating and aid by a GM from upcoming ship changes giving them an edge on market demands and doctrine changes, to the infamous BPO incident.
I see you are too young to have any memory of these events in Eve's earlier history but to those it effected stayed with us as a glaring reminder of what those with too much power and influence can have on the rest of us whom play.
I also find it quite funny you spew the same ignorant bullshit I've come to expect from front line grunts following blindly whatever is fed down the pipe for you to ingest from the Leadership above you. There's no individuality in your thinking let alone anything critical.
It's to be expected sadly. Null Sec itself has gone from a place of utter brilliance in developing the talent of FC's, pilots, diplomats etc to nothing but your average Reddit and 4chan spam in local from your average bottom feeder. Eve has simply become dumbed down over the years and your average Null Sec pilot proves it.
To some of us content and protecting the game we have come to know and love from your average high school Call Of Duty Mountain Dew chucking primate is paramount. Protecting it from sell outs like you.
I give Mittens due credit. He is a Master of Divide and Conquer and the Propoganda War. And sadly you and Black Legion fell right into his ploy with the lure of the "Greed Is Good" mantra that has steadily killed this game over the past few years...
His Diplomacy and carrot dangling is exactly why the CFC will never be truly killed. Even if Pandemic Legion in their "brilliance" were to devote every last resource to prop up TEST and the other splintering Alliances I still believe it wouldn't be enough.
And who's to say PL won't become opportunists like they've always been in the past? Their loyalties lie in opportunity not cause. There's a reason why Black Legion has lost the respect of many people for taking Mittani's handout instead of nutting up.
At least Sir Molle and 401k had the gumption to laugh in Goonswarm's face trying to buy off their most bitter and oldest enemy. Think what you will. But to some of us content is paramount over any isk amount or cheap words of "diplomacy" or blue status. |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
450
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:09:00 -
[120] - Quote
Seem to have some on my kb, Goon api hacks notwithstanding.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18393746 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18343844 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18297425 CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
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Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
429
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:11:00 -
[121] - Quote
Berke Negri wrote:Tara Read wrote:Callduron wrote:Tara Read wrote:Varesk wrote:PROPAGANDA SPIN 101.
dont believe the goon. Then don't accept his isk either.... Eve is a harsh harsh universe in which nasty people take your isk then lead all your dreads into an ignominious welp. I believe this is working as intended. You wouldn't know harsh if it bent you over and stole what virginity you have left. When Goonswarm was in it's infancy (back when Goons were actually Goons and not this diplomatic fa&^otry) Null Sec was chaos. Daily feeds were pasted every time one would log on to see updates on the Great War. It was beautiful. Coalitions were formed not out of mutual benefit, political grab assing, brown nosing but out of sheer survival. Titans were still monsters that haunted pilots dreams and the inevitable DD was on the forefront of any fleet members mind... There were no ship replacement funds, cries for mommy to hold your hand, or replace your god awful bland disgusting Drake... God forbid your FC's have to maneuver New Eden without the aid of a Titan Bridge or a Cyno... Back then FC's were revered for their utmost skill, not in cookie cutter doctrine's pasted on some Reddit page where drones and meat sacks could have the information pumped into them like a ******** cow full of hormones.... In other words you ALL are cancer. Every last soft, isk accepting, pasty faced, gutter trash who's "greed is good" bumper sticker on the back of their own personal Super justifies the slow decline of what once was the greatest and harshest game in existence. From your local spamming muppets, to Black Legion's castration, to Goonswarm's fat bloated whale slowly crushing us under it's weight of over bloated mediocrity, the rest of us suffer. All of you must burn. Every last one of you. Why? because that is the only hope this game has of surviving the crushing greed and selfishness your Alliances has plagued the rest of us with... people fly caracals not drakes now fyi
I heard RnK flies Rokh's too. Did you know?
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Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
328
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:25:00 -
[122] - Quote
Kelmurdoch wrote: What moons have we lost?
Well actually if you look at killboards, we do lose moons, and did lose a few in the early stages.
But if you look at killboards Goons don't lose moons... even when we kill their POSes...
That's very odd isn't it?
Turns out that Goons use a logistics corp that doesn't have a corporate API, which means that killboards won't pull their losses.
We retook the two moons in KCT-0A, but neither of the POS killmails pulled because no API
Goonswarm actually cares about killboard stats, and is trying to blueball TEST out of its space... Goons are literally -A- |
Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
429
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:41:00 -
[123] - Quote
Callduron wrote:That was a brilliant rant, Wodders. "back in my day beer was thruppence a pint and you young 'uns woulda got a clip round the earhole if you'd talked back to your elders." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyoSay hi to Marcko for me, Tara!
As soon as I take my daily dose of Prune Juice I'll make sure to pick up my rotary telephone and call him!! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3731
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:59:00 -
[124] - Quote
Jafit McJafitson wrote:Kelmurdoch wrote: What moons have we lost?
Well actually if you look at killboards, we do lose moons, and did lose a few in the early stages. But if you look at killboards Goons don't lose moons... even when we kill their POSes... That's very odd isn't it? Turns out that Goons use a logistics corp that doesn't have a corporate API, which means that killboards won't pull their losses. We retook the two moons in KCT-0A, but neither of the POS killmails pulled because no API Goonswarm actually cares about killboard stats, and is trying to blueball TEST out of its space... Goons are literally -A- Wait, the killboard can't pull the killmail from the API of the person who got it?
Does that mean if I have no API my losses won't show? That seems kind of odd. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
328
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:52:00 -
[125] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:[quote=Jafit McJafitson] Wait, the killboard can't pull the killmail from the API of the person who got it?
True, but the killboard would have to get it from the person who had final blow, and while everyone in TEST may have an API, not all of our allied pilots and corps have an API.
So you're going to be getting a skewed picture if you're only sitting in an armchair looking at killboardstats all day |
Aurora Silvare
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
2
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Posted - 2013.06.24 19:12:00 -
[126] - Quote
Jafit McJafitson wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:[quote=Jafit McJafitson] Wait, the killboard can't pull the killmail from the API of the person who got it? True, but the killboard would have to get it from the person who had final blow, and while everyone in TEST may have an API, not all of our allied pilots and corps have an API. So you're going to be getting a skewed picture if you're only sitting in an armchair looking at killboardstats all day
Is this why it takes the better part of a week for those TEST carriers to show up on my KB? |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
328
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Posted - 2013.06.24 19:53:00 -
[127] - Quote
I don't know... Your dreads tend to show up pretty quickly on ours.
Check your API keys m8 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3733
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Posted - 2013.06.24 22:46:00 -
[128] - Quote
Aurora Silvare wrote:Jafit McJafitson wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:[quote=Jafit McJafitson] Wait, the killboard can't pull the killmail from the API of the person who got it? True, but the killboard would have to get it from the person who had final blow, and while everyone in TEST may have an API, not all of our allied pilots and corps have an API. So you're going to be getting a skewed picture if you're only sitting in an armchair looking at killboardstats all day Is this why it takes the better part of a week for those TEST carriers to show up on my KB? Yeah, it might be. Because "we" (I don't know about allies) tell if people are there by using participation links (certainly not guns on logistics ships). So perhaps we don't have APIs on the killboards.
Moreover, our own losses must be posted on our much crappier killboard if you're to receive GSF reimbursement, so there are probably a bunch of people who don't have their API on eve-kill.
Does it mean that if the person receiving the lossmail and the one receiving the killmail do not have APIs, that the killboard can never automatically pick up the kill? Interesting. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8288
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Posted - 2013.06.25 07:25:00 -
[129] - Quote
there's no ~GrAnD cOnSpIrAcY~ to keep our losses off of eve-kill, we've just never had a corp API there Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Signal11th
The Retirement Club
1062
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Posted - 2013.06.25 07:34:00 -
[130] - Quote
Yowzers...Talking about API's and Isk. Who said there was no fun in EVE anymore!! Powered by Reath Filter V1.23 "All posts by this pilot are personal held views and not representitive of RKK or Retirement Club views or policies. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3738
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Posted - 2013.06.25 09:07:00 -
[131] - Quote
Andski wrote:there's no ~GrAnD cOnSpIrAcY~ to keep our losses off of eve-kill, we've just never had a corp API there Actually, wouldn't letting pubbies have access to our logistics corps' API be a security issue? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
453
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:16:00 -
[132] - Quote
Signal11th wrote:Yowzers...Talking about API's and Isk. Who said there was no fun in EVE anymore!!
Sez you as your alliance knocks over more Goon money moons.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18400241 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18400349 CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
SaltyandSweet
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
45
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:08:00 -
[133] - Quote
Guise, GUISE..... Nobody cares. Im So Baller I Buy Plex Cuz im too lazy to do PVE! |
Roderick Grey
Broski North Black Legion.
405
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:17:00 -
[134] - Quote
Oh yeah, I forgot that this thread was dedicated to entertaining LoSec dwellers, I guess we'll have to stop. GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon. |
SaltyandSweet
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
45
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:48:00 -
[135] - Quote
Roderick Grey wrote:Oh yeah, I forgot that this thread was dedicated to entertaining LoSec dwellers, I guess we'll have to stop. no its made to entertain camped in fags like you, oh wait your allian............its even worst now that useless legion is involved.... Im So Baller I Buy Plex Cuz im too lazy to do PVE! |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
245
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Posted - 2013.06.26 10:21:00 -
[136] - Quote
Elite PvP at it's finest. |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
459
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Posted - 2013.06.26 10:28:00 -
[137] - Quote
Roderick Grey wrote:Oh yeah, I forgot that this thread was dedicated to entertaining LoSec dwellers, I guess we'll have to stop.
I think he's roleplaying or something.
You know, being a heretic.
I'm finding it pretty edgy stuff. CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
SaltyandSweet
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
45
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Posted - 2013.06.26 10:39:00 -
[138] - Quote
Callduron wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Oh yeah, I forgot that this thread was dedicated to entertaining LoSec dwellers, I guess we'll have to stop. I think he's roleplaying or something. You know, being a heretic. I'm finding it pretty edgy stuff. I like you, this thread needs more BBC or horsepenis... Im So Baller I Buy Plex Cuz im too lazy to do PVE! |
Roderick Grey
Broski North Black Legion.
406
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Posted - 2013.06.26 11:11:00 -
[139] - Quote
SaltyandSweet wrote:Roderick Grey wrote:Oh yeah, I forgot that this thread was dedicated to entertaining LoSec dwellers, I guess we'll have to stop. no its made to entertain camped in fags like you, oh wait your allian............its even worst now that useless legion is involved....
W-what? GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon. |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
463
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Posted - 2013.06.26 14:39:00 -
[140] - Quote
Maybe we are broke. I just got negative SRP for losing an Apoc on a strat op.
https://zkb.pleaseignore.com/detail/31340206/
Ship Apocalypse System ZUE-NS Status Rejected Payout -22,500,000 ISK
Modifiers
20% Deduction Why is your hardener Meta... fin1712 June 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m.
40% Deduction Nerf Tank- those should be T2 plates. fin1712 June 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m.
50% Deduction Why do you have a second heatsink aaaa fin1712 June 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m.
CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
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Roderick Grey
Broski North Black Legion.
407
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Posted - 2013.06.26 15:03:00 -
[141] - Quote
Pay up scrub GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
569
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Posted - 2013.06.27 15:49:00 -
[142] - Quote
How's the "that just the way we do things" reimbursement backlog coming along guys? |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
465
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Posted - 2013.06.27 16:23:00 -
[143] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:How's the "that just the way we do things" reimbursement backlog coming along guys?
Well they processed that Apoc pretty fast CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
177
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:59:00 -
[144] - Quote
Callduron wrote:Charles Case wrote:How's the "that just the way we do things" reimbursement backlog coming along guys? Well they processed that Apoc pretty fast I actually lol'd. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Valince Olacar
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
1
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Posted - 2013.07.03 08:37:00 -
[145] - Quote
Callduron wrote:Charles Case wrote:How's the "that just the way we do things" reimbursement backlog coming along guys? Well they processed that Apoc pretty fast
Well duh why wouldn't you process income |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3758
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:54:00 -
[146] - Quote
Valince Olacar wrote:Callduron wrote:Charles Case wrote:How's the "that just the way we do things" reimbursement backlog coming along guys? Well they processed that Apoc pretty fast Well duh why wouldn't you process income I sure hope you don't mean reprocessed. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
190
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Posted - 2013.07.03 19:05:00 -
[147] - Quote
For the record, 3 of my 4 Fountain reimbursements are now paid out. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
SFM Hobb3s
Vanguard Frontiers Black Legion.
11
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:31:00 -
[148] - Quote
Valince Olacar wrote:Callduron wrote:Charles Case wrote:How's the "that just the way we do things" reimbursement backlog coming along guys? Well they processed that Apoc pretty fast Well duh why wouldn't you process income
Rofl at calling that 'income'. Real .Men buy their own shippies
Also Testies, great show so far, congrats on reclaiming Fountain. I really didn't want to do anything that messed up with that . I really do hope you guys win against goons. Now march on VFK already!
Also send me some goons to shoot at Kthxbai |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
190
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:38:00 -
[149] - Quote
I am now fully reimbursed for Fountain campaign thus far, but filing two more later today.
So much for the theory that Test is broke. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Divine Suicide
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:49:00 -
[150] - Quote
Callduron wrote:Maybe we are broke. I just got negative SRP for losing an Apoc on a strat op. https://zkb.pleaseignore.com/detail/31340206/Ship Apocalypse System ZUE-NS Status Rejected Payout -22,500,000 ISK Modifiers 20% Deduction Why is your hardener Meta... June 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m. 40% Deduction Nerf Tank- those should be T2 plates. June 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m. 50% Deduction Why do you have a second heatsink aaaa June 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m.
Stop being an autistic scrub? vOv
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Intar Medris
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
105
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Posted - 2013.07.05 04:17:00 -
[151] - Quote
You know despite what the Goons wan't you to believe TEST is holding their ground. Been watching the SOV map in Fountain since the start of this war, and you know what.... It hasn't changed in the slightest. Wonder how long before goons current Allies realize they have a history of stabbing their Allies in the back. It is all they have ever done. One day Goons your Allies will wise up to your tactics, and you will be left standing on your own. I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
237
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Posted - 2013.07.05 05:08:00 -
[152] - Quote
Intar Medris wrote:You know despite what the Goons wan't you to believe TEST is holding their ground. Been watching the SOV map in Fountain since the start of this war, and you know what.... It hasn't changed in the slightest. Until today with the capital escapade, we've totally been holding our ground and even making a little progress.
Intar Medris wrote:Wonder how long before goons current Allies realize they have a history of stabbing their Allies in the back. It is all they have ever done. One day Goons your Allies will wise up to your tactics, and you will be left standing on your own. The alliances in the CFC are all pets. They will abandon GSF as they abandoned their last masters when they feel GSF cannot provide for them any longer. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
578
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Posted - 2013.07.05 05:21:00 -
[153] - Quote
"capital escapade" |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
578
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Posted - 2013.07.05 05:26:00 -
[154] - Quote
Clearly dis lil' scrub doesn't own capitals.
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Lallante
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.07.05 10:50:00 -
[155] - Quote
Callduron wrote:Charles Case wrote:How's the "that just the way we do things" reimbursement backlog coming along guys? Well they processed that Apoc pretty fast
You are a good poster. I approve. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
578
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:16:00 -
[156] - Quote
Callduron wrote:Maybe we are broke. I just got negative SRP for losing an Apoc on a strat op. https://zkb.pleaseignore.com/detail/31340206/Ship Apocalypse System ZUE-NS Status Rejected Payout -22,500,000 ISK Modifiers 20% Deduction Why is your hardener Meta... June 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m. 40% Deduction Nerf Tank- those should be T2 plates. June 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m. 50% Deduction Why do you have a second heatsink aaaa June 20, 2013, 4:55 p.m.
Hey Callduron can you give us an update on reimbursements and the war :3
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
578
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:20:00 -
[157] - Quote
Callduron i feel you and anime name are losing the pep in your step, what's going on? Everything ok? |
Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
101
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:03:00 -
[158] - Quote
perhaps mongo now realizes only pawn in game of life
useful idiots for elite pvp to throw in our way to keep us from getting in the way of their own personal objectives and nothing more |
Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
990
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:36:00 -
[159] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Callduron i feel you and anime name are losing the pep in your step, what's going on? Everything ok?
Yes nullbear beancounters want to know. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
590
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:35:00 -
[160] - Quote
TEST not begging for ISK they don't need
Who needs isk?! |
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
590
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:36:00 -
[161] - Quote
Calling in Callduron and Toshihiro anime for an explanation using the logic of a 5 year old... |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
483
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:44:00 -
[162] - Quote
We need isk. Isk buys nice things.
In completely unrelated news I'd like to welcome Gevlon Goblin back to the alliance. His first post is up past 100 likes already. CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
484
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:46:00 -
[163] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:"capital escapade"
Capital capitulation caper was deemed too wordy. CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
484
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:47:00 -
[164] - Quote
Lallante wrote:Callduron wrote:Charles Case wrote:How's the "that just the way we do things" reimbursement backlog coming along guys? Well they processed that Apoc pretty fast You are a good poster. I approve.
And you are on the right side of Eve's real forever-war. Cmon BLUE! CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
484
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:48:00 -
[165] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Callduron i feel you and anime name are losing the pep in your step, what's going on? Everything ok?
Actually I was kinda ill IRL. Lost my mojo for a bit. CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
484
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:49:00 -
[166] - Quote
Nothing a quintuple post can't cure though CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
591
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:06:00 -
[167] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:I am now fully reimbursed for Fountain campaign thus far, but filing two more later today.
So much for the theory that Test is broke.
Oh what a difference a week makes in the "forever war".
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
591
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:11:00 -
[168] - Quote
Callduron wrote:We need isk. Isk buys nice things.
In completely unrelated news I'd like to welcome Gevlon Goblin back to the alliance. His first post is up past 100 likes already.
What?!? 100 likes already?!? Well i guess you have this war in the bag then!
Poor little guys, i can totally tell how reality is asserting itself just reading Callduron's half assed posts.
Sorry to hear your under the weather man. I hope TEST survives until you feel better |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
462
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:16:00 -
[169] - Quote
While u r slepping u hear a voice whisper into your mind and you open your eyes and youc an't move and there u see a the dark lord and he says firmly into your quivreing ears, SURRENDER FOUNTAIN AND TELL N3 TO SOMETHING SOMETHING UP THEIR OWN ASS |
Mr Morita
Calamitous-Intent
42
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:24:00 -
[170] - Quote
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:While u r slepping u hear a voice whisper into your mind and you open your eyes and youc an't move and there u see a the dark lord and he says firmly into your quivreing ears, SURRENDER FOUNTAIN AND TELL N3 TO SOMETHING SOMETHING UP THEIR OWN ASS ITT: Sithis rule 34 It's better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
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Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:29:00 -
[171] - Quote
Mr Morita wrote:Proletariat Tingtango wrote:While u r slepping u hear a voice whisper into your mind and you open your eyes and youc an't move and there u see a the dark lord and he says firmly into your quivreing ears, SURRENDER FOUNTAIN AND TELL N3 TO SOMETHING SOMETHING UP THEIR OWN ASS ITT: Sithis rule 34 I don't get it... Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward. Join Siegefleet, shoot structure, click participation link.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR |
coldplasma
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:03:00 -
[172] - Quote
can i get some courtesy likes itt, tia |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
466
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:59:00 -
[173] - Quote
EARN THEM MOTHER ****** |
Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
107
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:27:00 -
[174] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:I am now fully reimbursed for Fountain campaign thus far, but filing two more later today.
So much for the theory that Test is broke. Oh what a difference a week makes in the "forever war". it was pretty great getting fully reimbursed for my ship today an hour and a half after losing it, not going to lie |
Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
486
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:12:00 -
[175] - Quote
Berke Negri wrote:Charles Case wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:I am now fully reimbursed for Fountain campaign thus far, but filing two more later today.
So much for the theory that Test is broke. Oh what a difference a week makes in the "forever war". it was pretty great getting fully reimbursed for my ship today an hour and a half after losing it, not going to lie
Come again tomorrow we'll be glad to blow you up again. CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
107
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:32:00 -
[176] - Quote
you probably have some timers you should be more concerned about, unless like with Z9PP and EI- you've decided you didn't really want those systems anyways |
Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.07.12 03:06:00 -
[177] - Quote
Berke Negri wrote:you probably have some timers you should be more concerned about, unless like with Z9PP and EI- you've decided you didn't really want those systems anyways Well, who wouldn't want another big fight for Z9PP Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward. Join Siegefleet, shoot structure, click participation link.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR |
Max50
Parental Control
31
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Posted - 2013.07.14 16:34:00 -
[178] - Quote
My corp used to fly BCs and when an FC was calling for BSs it was so "exciting".We didnt run reimbursements at the time.
Now we fly dreads,carriers,supers and we still dont have a reimbursenet program.My corp actually had something like 3-4 BIL corp wallet last time i checked but newbs are buying stuff,chars etc.
We must be haxorz. Or you must be bad in the game.
Unless giving out caracals is a sign of economical wealth.
It is not |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3844
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Posted - 2013.07.14 16:49:00 -
[179] - Quote
Great. Now help TEST and join in the meat grinder please. Do drop your dreads to save their Ihubs and the like.
With your example, TEST can learn what it means to STOP BEING POOR. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Ersahi Kir
Infinite Mobility SpaceMonkey's Alliance
211
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Posted - 2013.07.14 18:21:00 -
[180] - Quote
Max50 wrote:My corp used to fly BCs and when an FC was calling for BSs it was so "exciting".We didnt run reimbursements at the time.
Now we fly dreads,carriers,supers and we still dont have a reimbursenet program.My corp actually had something like 3-4 BIL corp wallet last time i checked but newbs are buying stuff,chars etc.
We must be haxorz. Or you must be bad in the game.
Unless giving out caracals is a sign of economical wealth.
It is not
Because a former Raiden corporation knows how to keep pilots in the fight.
Please tell us more about how we should model ourselves after a low sec corporation that has nothing to fight over. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3844
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Posted - 2013.07.14 18:56:00 -
[181] - Quote
Ersahi Kir wrote:Max50 wrote:My corp used to fly BCs and when an FC was calling for BSs it was so "exciting".We didnt run reimbursements at the time.
Now we fly dreads,carriers,supers and we still dont have a reimbursenet program.My corp actually had something like 3-4 BIL corp wallet last time i checked but newbs are buying stuff,chars etc.
We must be haxorz. Or you must be bad in the game.
Unless giving out caracals is a sign of economical wealth.
It is not Because a former Raiden corporation knows how to keep pilots in the fight. Please tell us more about how we should model ourselves after a low sec corporation that has nothing to fight over. They should join N3 There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Max50
Parental Control
31
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:01:00 -
[182] - Quote
Ersahi Kir wrote:Max50 wrote:My corp used to fly BCs and when an FC was calling for BSs it was so "exciting".We didnt run reimbursements at the time.
Now we fly dreads,carriers,supers and we still dont have a reimbursenet program.My corp actually had something like 3-4 BIL corp wallet last time i checked but newbs are buying stuff,chars etc.
We must be haxorz. Or you must be bad in the game.
Unless giving out caracals is a sign of economical wealth.
It is not Because a former Raiden corporation knows how to keep pilots in the fight. Please tell us more about how we should model ourselves after a low sec corporation that has nothing to fight over.
So you are fighting for free caracals. And some imaginary war chest that now that there is a war going on noone uses it.
Suddenly watching SMA repairing structures with T1 cruisers makes sense to me |
Max50
Parental Control
31
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:07:00 -
[183] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Ersahi Kir wrote:Max50 wrote:My corp used to fly BCs and when an FC was calling for BSs it was so "exciting".We didnt run reimbursements at the time.
Now we fly dreads,carriers,supers and we still dont have a reimbursenet program.My corp actually had something like 3-4 BIL corp wallet last time i checked but newbs are buying stuff,chars etc.
We must be haxorz. Or you must be bad in the game.
Unless giving out caracals is a sign of economical wealth.
It is not Because a former Raiden corporation knows how to keep pilots in the fight. Please tell us more about how we should model ourselves after a low sec corporation that has nothing to fight over. They should join N3
We have a cool corp name,should we try goons? We might as well get the typical anti-Bobbit syndrome if it helps |
Ersahi Kir
Infinite Mobility SpaceMonkey's Alliance
211
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Posted - 2013.07.14 22:34:00 -
[184] - Quote
Max50 wrote:So you are fighting for free caracals. And some imaginary war chest that now that there is a war going on noone uses it.
Suddenly watching SMA repairing structures with T1 cruisers makes sense to me
I really have no idea what you're going on about. Are free caracals bad? Do T1 logistic cruisers fail at the task they were designed for? Do your incoherent ramblings have a point? |
coldplasma
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:39:00 -
[185] - Quote
if your fleet is not composed of at least 50% super-capitals then you don't know how to pvp correctly |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3845
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Posted - 2013.07.14 23:55:00 -
[186] - Quote
Ersahi Kir wrote:Max50 wrote:So you are fighting for free caracals. And some imaginary war chest that now that there is a war going on noone uses it.
Suddenly watching SMA repairing structures with T1 cruisers makes sense to me I really have no idea what you're going on about. Are free caracals bad? Do T1 logistic cruisers fail at the task they were designed for? Do your incoherent ramblings have a point? T1 logistics cruisers are pretty nice now, so where's the problem with using them? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
597
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:11:00 -
[187] - Quote
Max50 wrote:We have a cool corp name,should we try goons? We might as well get the typical anti-Bobbit syndrome if it helps
Hey Max50 how are you bro?! How is the hanging out with supermodels at the greek beaches going? I can only assume well cause your posts are bitter as ****. I can imagine you hurfing and blurfing over a mint mojito with a topless woman sitting on your lap while you explain to her why you are irrelevant in a spaceship game and why you are so angry about it |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
597
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:13:00 -
[188] - Quote
Ersahi Kir wrote:Max50 wrote:So you are fighting for free caracals. And some imaginary war chest that now that there is a war going on noone uses it.
Suddenly watching SMA repairing structures with T1 cruisers makes sense to me I really have no idea what you're going on about. Are free caracals bad? Do T1 logistic cruisers fail at the task they were designed for? Do your incoherent ramblings have a point?
Max50 will just start spouting nonsense once he can't control his EVE anger.
The next stage is when he starts telling you how awesome he is in RL and why he has to post about it in CAOD. |
coldplasma
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:16:00 -
[189] - Quote
i'm bad at the game but irl let me tell you, i flourish |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3845
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:59:00 -
[190] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Ersahi Kir wrote:Max50 wrote:So you are fighting for free caracals. And some imaginary war chest that now that there is a war going on noone uses it.
Suddenly watching SMA repairing structures with T1 cruisers makes sense to me I really have no idea what you're going on about. Are free caracals bad? Do T1 logistic cruisers fail at the task they were designed for? Do your incoherent ramblings have a point? Max50 will just start spouting nonsense once he can't control his EVE anger. The next stage is when he starts telling you how awesome he is in RL and why he has to post about it in CAOD. EVE anger is a thing? Like... roadrage?
EVE Emotion. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
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Callduron
Corporate Scum Test Alliance Please Ignore
487
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:07:00 -
[191] - Quote
keep mashing that F5 so you can tell us all how chillax you are about Eve CAOD: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
coldplasma
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:18:00 -
[192] - Quote
Callduron wrote:keep mashing that F5 so you can tell us all how chillax you are about Eve what if i told u that i spend less than 90minutes a week on my money making acct and that it brings in a bill every week... its ok tho u can still make 20m/hour ratting in fountaoh wait |
Mr Morita
Calamitous-Intent
65
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:26:00 -
[193] - Quote
coldplasma wrote:Callduron wrote:keep mashing that F5 so you can tell us all how chillax you are about Eve what if i told u that i spend less than 90minutes a week on my money making acct and that it brings in a bill every week... its ok tho u can still make 20m/hour ratting in fountaoh wait You should use that ISK to invest in Hooked on Phonics. It's better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep.
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coldplasma
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:39:00 -
[194] - Quote
Mr Morita wrote:coldplasma wrote:Callduron wrote:keep mashing that F5 so you can tell us all how chillax you are about Eve what if i told u that i spend less than 90minutes a week on my money making acct and that it brings in a bill every week... its ok tho u can still make 20m/hour ratting in fountaoh wait You should use that ISK to invest in Hooked on Phonics. lol.. sick burn of the icest degree |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
598
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:34:00 -
[195] - Quote
Wow coldplasma you went from "barely tolerable pubbie" to ****** of the highest degree in like 3 posts. Nice. |
Spurty
907
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:09:00 -
[196] - Quote
Posting in a thread where the first 4 posts are blown out the water by the rest (and with pictures to boot!).
Carry on with the cool imagery.
Do enjoy looking at people exercising their real life art talents on propaganda posters.
Also, ISK is not a motivator to log in.
It's quite anti-motivational (its the grind).
Probably best to stop waving it about as if it was your willy or something.
--- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |
coldplasma
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:46:00 -
[197] - Quote
Spurty wrote: Also, ISK is not a motivator to log in.
It's quite anti-motivational (its the grind).
hence the goal is to make as much of it as possible while logged off. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
598
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:08:00 -
[198] - Quote
Spurty wrote:Posting in a thread where the first 4 posts are blown out the water by the rest (and with pictures to boot!).
Carry on with the cool imagery.
Do enjoy looking at people exercising their real life art talents on propaganda posters.
Also, ISK is not a motivator to log in.
It's quite anti-motivational (its the grind).
Probably best to stop waving it about as if it was your willy or something.
I think your post just blew itself out of the water.
That or you are just dumb.
Maybe both. |
coldplasma
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:59:00 -
[199] - Quote
charles case i was wondering if you could please forward me a CAOD tier list as i'm a very new poster and don't really know what i'm doing. i'm very interested in hearing about the all the different posting tiers here and especially where the "people who make multiple 800 word posts about TEST" fit in to the mix. tia |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
598
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:22:00 -
[200] - Quote
Follow by example pubbie one.
And under no circumstances post smug if you are in ******* Li3. |
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
598
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:25:00 -
[201] - Quote
I mean that should be a pretty obvious rule you know? |
coldplasma
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:29:00 -
[202] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:I mean that should be a pretty obvious rule you know. http://i.imgur.com/ceqbZtZ.gif |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3846
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 22:51:00 -
[203] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:Follow by example pubbie one.
And under no circumstances post smug if you are in ******* Li3. No, by all means post all the smug. This forum will die even more without it, and TEST doesn't seem to have enough to share.
Right where they want us. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
601
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Posted - 2013.07.16 23:44:00 -
[204] - Quote
NO CIRCUMSTANCES |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3846
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Posted - 2013.07.17 03:40:00 -
[205] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:NO CIRCUMSTANCES STOP BEING POOR. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
coldplasma
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:51:00 -
[206] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Charles Case wrote:NO CIRCUMSTANCES STOP BEING POOR. same, but unironically |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3852
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 05:26:00 -
[207] - Quote
coldplasma wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Charles Case wrote:NO CIRCUMSTANCES STOP BEING POOR. same, but unironically I'm not actually poor at the moment :)
But soon the CFC will run out of money and I will have to grind red plus signs for 30 minutes to afford each new T2 Torp Hound that I lose in a moronic manner. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
coldplasma
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
33
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Posted - 2013.07.18 10:01:00 -
[208] - Quote
it was more of a general statement directed at people who may be or are considering being poor |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3852
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 11:06:00 -
[209] - Quote
coldplasma wrote:it was more of a general statement directed at people who may be or are considering being poor Do not take "being poor" without first consulting your alliance leader.
"Being poor" may have side-effects like degraded fleet quality, needing to go back to highsec and feeling oppressed and/or jealous. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Dragon Outlaw
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
161
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 17:38:00 -
[210] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote: "Being poor" may have side-effects like degraded fleet quality, needing to go back to highsec and feeling oppressed and/or jealous.
You forgot Rating Taxes ! |
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coldplasma
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
36
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Posted - 2013.07.19 22:46:00 -
[211] - Quote
"urgh i want to pvp but my corp's tax is too high" - a poor |
AstraPardus
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
265
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Posted - 2013.07.20 20:28:00 -
[212] - Quote
Ratting taxes? What are these ratting....taxes...? Every time I post is Pardy time! :3 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3872
|
Posted - 2013.07.22 02:44:00 -
[213] - Quote
When you rat, you pay taxes.
Hilarious. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4744
|
Posted - 2013.09.17 23:19:00 -
[214] - Quote
finally i can post in this thread
~victory~ |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Forsak3n.
341
|
Posted - 2013.09.18 14:25:00 -
[215] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:finally i can post in this thread
~victory~
http://www.strat-talk.com/forum/attachments/sidewinders-bar-grille/21262d1305120416-necro-thread_necro.jpg Free Ripley Weaver! |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
649
|
Posted - 2013.09.18 14:52:00 -
[216] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:finally i can post in this thread
~victory~
3 months start to finish. Not bad, not bad at all.
Reading Callduron and Toshihiro anime (i heard he skilled himself ) you would've though this would have lasted till XMAS...
2014 that is :3 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4588
|
Posted - 2013.09.21 03:47:00 -
[217] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:finally i can post in this thread
~victory~ How does it feel to be right? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4763
|
Posted - 2013.09.24 16:18:00 -
[218] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Weaselior wrote:finally i can post in this thread
~victory~ How does it feel to be right? i dont have anything to compare it to |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4612
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Posted - 2013.09.25 06:02:00 -
[219] - Quote
Surely you've been right about other things in the past There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2309
|
Posted - 2013.09.25 21:17:00 -
[220] - Quote
Reading these threads back is always hilarious. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4620
|
Posted - 2013.09.26 03:45:00 -
[221] - Quote
You can only say that because you haven't been forced to sell your frozen corpses in order to pay BL There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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