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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 01:34:00 -
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Maybe theyve changed the figures yet againt, but last i tested a 400mm plate was giving 10% speed penalty or less on frigs, and a 1600 plate 10% or less on cruiser/bc...
has this changed?
Id go on sisi myself, but im busy data-recovering a drive 
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 01:43:00 -
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OMG they put the masses up again, ugh. 
They were just about right last time around, lets hope its not final.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 02:20:00 -
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sacrilege
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 03:24:00 -
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Well, thats much the same for other HAC/BC comparisons drunken.
Ferox does the same dps as an eagle @ 50% less range
Prophecy does roughly the same dps as zealot @ 50% less range
Brutix does similar dps as deimos but without the falloff boost
of course, theyre slower, bigger, and dont tank as well.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 03:37:00 -
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 Originally by: DrunkenOne
Muninn does 20% more damage than a rupture. Munnin doesnt fit a tank in 720 II mode (which is the only thing it does well), so its resists dont even really factor in. On top of all that, rupture is getting bosted in mk2, meaning it makes even less sense to fly a muninn over it.
Oh i agree the muninn needs a boost, dont get me wrong. That was my pedantic streak there. 
Of course the problem is finding a way to boost it that doesent make it overpowered or requires a complete rework of the ship. The same problem is apparent in the "boost the sacrilege" threads.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
T2 ships need an MK2 overhaul like Tech 1 got.
Yeah, and they can start by giving AFs a 4th bonus.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 03:49:00 -
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And resist bonus instead of cap for vengeance, as well resists instead of shield hp for hawk.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 03:57:00 -
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BUt back on topic - muninn and minnie in general:
I think part of the problem, apart from the obvious alpha strike not being a viable advantage to justify the poor tracking, dps and range of howies, is the absolute ****-poorness of the 2nd-class howies.
Youve done the maths drunken and you know better than me how absolutely ******* abysmal 250mm, 650mm and 1200mm are at well... anything.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 03:59:00 -
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Heck, making minm ammo do the same total damage as the other races would be a good start, and they could probably hotfix that in.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 16:03:00 -
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Well, they tank a little better, but yeah
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 17:14:00 -
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Aye, and its a bigger difference/gun anyway.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 17:44:00 -
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That close huh. I was convinced the difference was bigger, for some reason.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
1400 II Tempest
6.9x*1.25*1.25*1.15*1.1 = 13.638
23.625 RoF*.75*.8*.9 = 12.7575
13.638/12.7575 = 1.069
1.069*6 = 6.414
w/ EMP L = 282.216
tracking = .009
425 II mega
3.3x*1.25*1.25*1.15*1.1 = 6.523
9.563*.8*.9 RoF = 6.885
6.523/6.885 = .95
.95*7 = 6.65
w/ Antimatter L = 319.2
Tracking= .01203125
Megabeam II on max skills geddon
3.6x*1.25*1.15*1.10 = 5.6925
9*.75*.8*.9 = 4.86
5.6925 / 4.86 = 1.171
1.171 * 7 * 48 = 393.456
Tracking = .0153125
In all fairness though, range is a whole lot worse than mega. Howies cant really be compared, they suck too much.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 22:43:00 -
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Yeah, but the problem is still the same though, if you nerf pulses anymore, all the other amarr ships - that dont have a damage bonus - will really be utterly useless.
Problem is the geddon.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 22:58:00 -
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Well, its a given imo that cap use on blasters is still too high...
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.21 23:58:00 -
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do tell 
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