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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:22:00 -
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Nope, its not.
Fleet anti-Frig: Outclassed by Harpy.
Solo: Outclassed by every ship in existance.
Small groups: Outclassed by everything with more midslots.
NPC: Reasonaly usefull ship.
Now go NPCing and let the big boys talk about things you have no clue about (PvP)
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Solar Sailor
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:36:00 -
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Hmm I see an opportunity...
Yes Retribution is crap, pure and utter crap. Everyone should stop buying them and put theirs on sale.
Of course with so many people selling them for scrap the prices will drop, but you have to accept it to get rid of this steaming pile of crud.
BTW WTB Retribution - 4 mil in rens, will buy as many as your selling 
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Hobblin I
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Gunsnroses
Edited by: Gunsnroses on 22/11/2005 21:17:32
Retribution is the best frigate in the game. End of story.
150 dps, and the best Frigate tank.
Hands down the retribution is 100% perfect.
Whine about a ship that is truly broken like the excutioner, and maybe it will get fixed.
Wrong
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:54:00 -
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Why people think a retribution is a good pvp ship is beyond me. You say its good in fleet, well considering small beams are gimped you have no choice but to fit pulses and pulses have hardly any range and all af's are too slow to catch an inty therefore its useless. Harpy with shortest range ammo outranges a retri with longest range ammo.
Solo absolutely pointless you have to fit a web otherwise 1 inty will kill you. So you fit web but then you have no scram so your opponent can just warp away. Not to mention without and ab your slow as crap. Same thing applies for small group, retri is absolutely pointless to fly unless your npcing.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.11.22 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Uggs386
Why people think a retribution is a good pvp ship is beyond me.
Only reason i can honestly think of is that they really are those 'omgz amarr overpowered' people and are boasting about the Retribution so it never gets usefull.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.23 00:12:00 -
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So, its all a fiendish plot then ;o
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Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2005.11.23 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Only reason i can honestly think of is that they really are those 'omgz amarr overpowered' people and are boasting about the Retribution so it never gets usefull.
Well, so far nobody in this thread proposed that thinking outside the box will fix the problem (as in, "think harder, it'll grow a mid") so consider yourself lucky .
Is losing a high for a mid a real trade-off? I know I feel a bit "cheated" (maybe its just a wrong perception, who knows) when someone says "replace the utility by a mid".
I'd say, it's fine if the ship loses its (silly) weakness but it should have another. I'd have to agree the ishkur to come just look mean and the harpy is an old reference. The vengeance, hawk, wolf and jaguar also need help, and with the same amount of mids the enyo wouldn't look so hot when compared to the retribution.
Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.
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vile56
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Posted - 2005.11.23 00:52:00 -
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this is to those of u that have af. is the low insurance cost a bug or is it supposed to be that. ie if i get best ins(99%) i will pay over 1 mil and only recive 3.5 mil on a ret is this accurate(i payed 11 mil for it)
well walk up to her with your pants down and if she runs away it was never meant to be. |
Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2005.11.23 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Naughty Boy on 23/11/2005 01:00:03
Originally by: vile56
Is the low insurance cost a bug or is it supposed to be that.
Insurance cost and payout are based upon fixed values, and the market value is variable. As long as people will buy/sell above the fixed value (which is quite likely) it will stay that way.
Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.
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Gunsnroses
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Posted - 2005.11.24 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Uggs386
Why people think a retribution is a good pvp ship is beyond me. You say its good in fleet, well considering small beams are gimped you have no choice but to fit pulses and pulses have hardly any range and all af's are too slow to catch an inty therefore its useless. Harpy with shortest range ammo outranges a retri with longest range ammo.
Solo absolutely pointless you have to fit a web otherwise 1 inty will kill you. So you fit web but then you have no scram so your opponent can just warp away. Not to mention without and ab your slow as crap. Same thing applies for small group, retri is absolutely pointless to fly unless your npcing.
I've said it once, and i'll say it again. No int can kill a retribution. I beg of you to bring your int to me, you'll die.
Retribution is my favorite pvp ship. ITs sturdy and packs ahell of a punch.
Dont need a scrambler people die anyway.
Granted a scrambler would be nice, but then you have the most overpowered frigate in the game.
If you dont like it dont use it. Theres plenty of people who like it just the way it is.
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Kharak'khan
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Posted - 2005.11.24 12:40:00 -
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The Retribution is a bit gimped for PVP, Set it up right though and its capable but slow, If your in a grouph use the mid slot for a Tech 2 burner, If your on your own stick a 20km warp scrambler on it, I grab stuff in the belts but a fast cruiser or frig is hard work! But takes out a slow cruiser or frig etc pretty easy. It tanks well and is a hard nut to ***** (just watch out for Nos). Taken out BC on my own get in close an beatem to death
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2005.11.24 13:49:00 -
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YaY 4th thread in a few days...
ffs .... -> I <- Think its great.
Fly it, try it, draw your own conclussion.
*insert flame here* -> Packs a punch, vber tanks and can kill most if not any af's out there <- *Insert flame here*
That was my oppinion.. i know im gonna get flammed... And people is always like OMGWTF"(ñ)="!(ñ=)!"(ñ="!ñ1111 ... 1 medslot ftl
Ill say it again -> Fly it, try it, draw your own conclussion.
Later girlies
/Mav
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Gunsnroses
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Posted - 2005.11.25 06:40:00 -
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Lw have my babies.
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