Yes. Counter suicide ganking with.... Suicide ganking.
/sarcasm

And please do remember that just because there are plenty of idiots that orgasm from other people's misfortunes doesn't mean we all play for tears.

Brutix can't kill every hulk, only the untanked ones. Good luck fitting one who fits a proper buffer tank. You'd need to bring a couple of battleship and without insurance suddenly that seems a lot less of a good idea.

Tippia, your posts are full of inconsistent misinformation. You're either:

a) Purposefully lying or

b) Genuinely believe this nonsense.


If the latter, then it's impossible reasoning someone out of an argument that they didn't reason themselves into in the first place. If the former, then you need to realize that you 're not fooling anyone. The people that chant your drivel already support it, not because they believe it to be true, but because it's what they do.

Carry on, goons.

Again, such as your ridiculous claim that:



As I said, arguing with you is pointless and a massive waste of time.

And look at the goons, desperate for attention. Here, have some :).

maybe because ganker chooses time, place, victim and fit to attack? And no gankee? So ganker ALREADY HAS favor. Well yes. Place and time ganker and gankee choose "together". But final decision about attack belongs to ganker. So gankee should have something too.

Ganking is a bit one sided, they're usually an organised group they kill the target, don't care if their ships are destroyed because they get the insurance and they have a pick-up person ready to loot the wreaks. So the gankers get the loot plus insurance and the laugh, the guy getting ganked just gets the insurance which is nothing to his/her loses. Loses depending what kind of target.

Don't know about you but it seems one sided to me.

who are you again?

Bubbles in high-sec, yeah right :P

Talking about high-sec ganking not low sec pirating or even 0.0 for that matter.

It's obvious that a larger group is likely to win, unless it's a large group of shuttles. But that's not the issue of the thread.

Ganking is a bit one sided, they're usually an organised group they kill the target, don't care if their ships are destroyed because they get the insurance and they have a pick-up person ready to loot the wreaks. So the gankers get the loot plus insurance and the laugh, the guy getting ganked just gets the insurance which is nothing to his/her loses. Loses depending what kind of target.

Don't know about you but it seems one sided to me.

The fact of the matter is that Exhumers can't tank.. by design, is that fair? idk.

Maybe a new set of exhumer like ships that are similar, lower yield, but have the ability to tank ... at least more than the current ones.

High sec gate camp with a pick-up or two and people scanning in trade hub systems, is not that highly organised. More like a spider sat in a web with a few lookout giving a heads-up when something interesting is coming their way.


Now if they had to get off their butts and actually go looking for their targets then I might be a little bit impressed.

Whining about insurance is really counterproductive, as the whiners may even get it as their one chance at a "fix", and then they'll be that much more enraged when it actually doesn't make a lick of difference. My guess is that you'd have more people ganking for the sheer joy as a statement against hisec whining, which is much harder to counter than those who gank for profit.

[This thread has made me decide i'm going to go suicide ganking tonight, just for the lulz.

What makes me laugh is why do people that gank always think that somebody that speaks out against it mines.


I don't mine, find it boring tried it years back, it's just not my thing.

Also don't haul anything, not even that keen on high-sec.

And as for tears, got none of those, sorry :)

Actually the Drone Regions are very good for alloys off of the rats, recommend it if you ever get the chance, assuming they've not nerfed it.


Although drone parts used to be pretty useless probably still are.

Well it was not hard I used to rat there.

the miner will never know the spotter was there. the gankers can move to a different system or belt unload new ships from an orca even with -10 and continue

I'd trust Weaslior with my sister.

To those supporting the current mechanics:

Do you genuinely think they are perfect and that in this one area CCP have amazingly hit on the perfectly balanced formula that eludes them in every other area of the game? Is there nothing at all that you think should be changed about this system? No nuances, details, or tweaks that could improve balance?

This.

I haven't read a single instance of anyone advocating for removing the potential for a gank from any part of Eve. Simply the removal of the head spinning illogic of receiving an insurance payout for intentionally using your ship as a large, expendable piece of ordnance.