lol you're a loon

Thinking you can tank a Hulk against suicide ganks and be effective is a ridiculous notion. The solution for miners is incredibly simple. Go back to using Covetors and make the insurance payouts work for you every time you get ganked. Covetors are dirt cheap to build and they mine almost as much as a hulk, especially if you have an Orca boost.

first fo all I dont gank people b/c its boring but.........

JOIN A GOD DAMN CORP GET SOME GOD DAMN BACK UP OR GO PLAY FARMVILLE.

that is all

No one is going to use the $1000 pair of Jeans analogy?

Ok, fine, then I will.

LetGÇÖs say your set to play a game of Rugby with a group of particularly tough and nasty players, and you just happen to be wearing a $1000 shirt. You are completely aware that during the course of the game the shirt will get ripped, muddy and even bloody, but you play in the game anyway wearing your fine and fancy $1000 shirt.

Now, the market value of the shirt is $1000, however, to you the Rugby player, the shirt is absolutely worthless, it has lost any and all of its value.

If someone were to stop you, while you were walking out into the field and remind you that youGÇÖre wearing a $1000shirt and that you are putting it at Risk, because the shirt is of no value to you, you might respond by saying; GÇ£ThereGÇÖs no Risk at all.GÇ¥

This is the situation that the Suicide Gankers of EVE exploit for its Rhetorical value.
Whenever a player points out that the Suicide Gankers face no Risk whatsoever, the Suicide Gankers respond by saying: GÇ£Sure, I face risk, my ships and mods cost money too, you know.GÇ¥

And apparently, everyone forgets, that the Suicide Ganker consciously decided to throw those items (ships and mods) away because they had absolutely no value to him whatsoever.
For the player who got ganked while in his 200million+ Hulk, with mods, his ship was of inestimably value to him, it was his Life-Blood in the game

The Suicide Ganker does NOT risk anything of GÇÿinestimableGÇÖ value to himself. While the person ganked loses something of inestimable value, which no doubt cost him a lot of hard work. This equation is not balanced.

The equation will not be balanced until the Suicide Ganker is made to risk something of inestimable value to his/her self in order to or as a potential consequence of Ganking someone else.

DoesnGÇÖt matter what the Market value of an item is, if the person/owner is willing to throw it away that makes the item worthless.

The word GÇ£SuicideGÇ¥ means, the Self it worthless.

The word GÇ£SuicideGÇ¥ means, the Self it worthless.

No one is going to use the $1000 pair of Jeans analogy?

The Suicide Ganker does NOT risk anything of GÇÿinestimableGÇÖ value to himself. While the person ganked loses something of inestimable value, which no doubt cost him a lot of hard work. This equation is not balanced.

Congratulations. You just showed that fiddling with insurance will not help ganking victimsGǪ

GǪwhich, by the way, others have already proposed.

Tippia if it's as worthless as you suggest it is, why do suicide gankers resist getting rid of insurance for them.

I don't think the gankers do. I do, and I don't say that it's worthless.

At any rate, if it is worthless, then the question comes back to my annoying GÇ£why?GÇ¥ If it doesn't solve the (supposed) problem, then there's no reason to touch it, and doing so would just break a bunch of other things where it most certainly is working as intended.

We come back to, if you get killed by Concord you should not receive any insurance payout.

I don't see that breaking anything else, it would work perfectly ok.

What are you going to ask for when that doesn't stop people from ganking miners in highsec?

But it would get rid of something a lot of us feel is a ridiculous practice, namely being paid insurance after being killed by Concord.

What are you going to ask for when that doesn't stop people from ganking miners in highsec?

I'm going to have to follow your own rhetorical tactic here and ask you to demonstrate that this would be optimal for the game as a whole.

There's a reason why goons usually come in huge numbers to defend grief play, and it has zero to do with common sense.

The only reason you see us comment on it is because we're drawn to any thread where this is this much whining.

No way! A goon with Schadenfreude? Why I would have never.

The funny thing is when goons are "ganked" you flood the forums with more tears that I have seen shed by any other alliance. But your level of intelligence pretty much makes it impossible for you to see the irony in that.

Also, don't autopilot. Ever.

so much shitposting

Funny how every "waah waah Goons waah waah" thread is started by an NPC corp character. You can shitpost all you like from behind an alt, and you don't even need to pay ISK for the privilege. How's that for "consequences", you damm hypocrites.