getting real sick of these troll threads.

can all of you do everyone else a favor and kill yourselves violently.

getting real sick of these troll threads.

can all of you do everyone else a favor and kill yourselves violently.

getting real sick of these troll threads.

Not colour blind myself but +1 for this...

getting real sick of these troll threads.

can all of you do everyone else a favor and kill yourselves violently.

I'm completely blind and I think it's unfair that CCP has decided to make my favorite internet spaceship game without sensitivity to that. I log on (I think) and play but I don't know if I'm in space or docked most of the time. I try to play the markets but I don't know what screen I'm looking at. I think I may be in a corporation but don't actually know. These issues are hurtful.

Can CCP please help?

Color blindness is a relatively easy thing for game devs to work around, its just a matter of swapping out a few colors. I don't see how this would harm anyone.

Also, anyone who says it is a waste of dev resources is a selfish as*hole who should go kill themselves.

Also, anyone who says it is a waste of dev resources is a selfish as*hole who should go kill themselves.

Also, anyone who says it is a waste of dev resources is a selfish as*hole who should go kill themselves.

save the puppies!!

I'm not sure I understand what all the outrage, trolling and general ... immaturity, I guess(?) is about, but this seems like a perfectly legitimate and reasonable thing. Color-blindness and general disability isn't what EVE's mantra of "Adapt or Die" is referring to, and being able to adapt to something doesn't mean a more accessible alternative shouldn't be provided if it's simple and reasonable to do.

+1 from me.

Also, to the troll who's trolling about "being blind", there is in fact at least one person who does play EVE while blind. Something to do with screen readers, as I recall. They don't get into complex gameplay, but they're still able to play.

It's not a troll. It is a legitimate issue. I am red/green color blind. I don't even know what I am missing there, but I do know that it very difficult for me to tell the yellow symbol on the overview from the white ones. Consequently I have to check both the overview and the rout, in many cases to keep from getting lost. That is only one of the problems I have. Would you think it was a troll if you had the same problem?

Why not just add a "colorblind" mode so it doesn't ruin it for the people who aren't so unfortunate

It is a waste of dev's time. Guess EVE is the perfect game for me.

That is exactly what he wants to do. He wants an options that flips certain colors that certain people have trouble seeing around.

So there is EVE color standard that we would play. Then there is an option that changes colors that can be better seen by those who have trouble.

I am not color blind so would simply keep my settings as is.

Except it takes no time at all. Photoshop: View -> Proof Setup -> tick Color Blindness. You display now shows what the most common color blind people see, from here on out, it's easy to fix the entire UI's graphics within minutes.

This is just one of those settings which should've been easy to change but they're probably not. Maybe you think that the change is easy, since that would be just a change of color profile but no ... The colors are probably hard-coded and they have no way to change colors as you want.

One would expect that it's possible to create color templates and apply them to any text which can be colored but yeah ... Just like the other topic (~ more than 100 fits) which should be easily changeable but there's no response what-so-ever. I support the OP with this request. But in addition to it: expand the idea in a way that user can create/change color profiles. It's probably bit more complex, but whatever. Just adding a suggestion. Let the current color scheme as 'default'. I like the colors how they are now, and they should not get removed or changed.

Except it takes no time at all. Photoshop: View -> Proof Setup -> tick Color Blindness. You display now shows what the most common color blind people see, from here on out, it's easy to fix the entire UI's graphics within minutes.

While your idea isn't weird at all. adding more "modifiable" stuff to the game, like for example color templates, will increase database size, load times and a host of other stuff.

Color blindness is a huge deficiency i know, but it simply can not be suggested that just for a % of the eve poplation, we should have color templates for all.

What are you talking about? What kind of database size? The files can be saved in configuration (*.txt) which would not affect anything. What kind of hosting for other size?

Place the configuration file on client side. Place the default values within the code (hard-coded template) in case that someone is messing up with the configuration file and it has errors. I don't see how can that increase anything else server-side. By implementing the color template, you should not feel anything at all (performance-wise).

EDIT: Also, some users would maybe like to add their custom colors to the interface ... so, I'm not aiming only for those with color-blindness.

Please CCP, also keep in mind the people without hands, people who are deaf, people who can't speak, people who are partially paralyzed, people who have down syndrome, people who....... you get the picture.

Color blindness is a huge deficiency i know, but it simply can not be suggested that just for a % of the eve poplation, we should have color templates for all.

Also... a *.txt file, you obviously aren't a programmer and if you are, you should punish yourself.
It is true though, they could just add them to our existing client-side configuration files, but again, this would require changes to hundreds if not thousands of code files.

If CCP could help those people enjoy the game better simply by modifying the text I sure as hell would be for it. This argument is basically they should not go a little out of the way to improve one groups gameplay because it is much harder to go out of the way for people who have more serious conditions.

That just doesn't hold water when all that needs to be done is switch the text color.

Absolutely it can be suggested, absolutely.

They modify the UI for hundreds of groups of people. Only the hard core EVE'ers do everything in this game. They take steps to make the UI and graphics better for Moon Miners, PI'ers, People who run POS's, Manufactures, PvP'ers, Wormholers, Miners, Newbies, Old'es, Station Environments, Ship and Space Graphics, Mission Texts, Explorers, Incursioners , Weapons Graphics, Icons, Text... Ect.

You name it they've improved it at some point for their players knowing that in some cases only a few will take advantage of it and only a few of those will really care that they have improved. Making the game better for a small % keeps them playing and when all those small % add up it becomes big % of players.

Simply put if modifying the text makes it easier for a group of people to play and it isn't hard to do then it is the smart thing to do. If they can make chooseable templates for everyone else all the better, but it can absolutely be suggested that this change is good for the game.

Please CCP, also keep in mind the people without hands, people who are deaf, people who can't speak, people who are partially paralyzed, people who have down syndrome, people who....... you get the picture.


The color blind, the reason why American traffic signs say walk/don't walk instead of just green and red.
Yet at the same time, THEY ARE STILL GREEN AND RED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I get it, you are color blind, it is not ideal for you, you'll have to do some more reading and paying more attention to text in stead of colors.
Please stop asking for stuff that works great for the majority, to change for a MIGHTILY small minority.

What do you have against the *.txt file? .json is as well just a freaking *.txt file, no?

And it's not like I want anything. When I would wish for something, that would be the insight in the code and application to see how did they create it.

If you think that it's changing hundreds, if not thousands of code files then you should punish yourself?

EDIT: This is just another feature and idea from which some could get profit. If it doesn't affect you, then sorry. But we can see senseless topics get open all the time (e.g. AFK cloaking) ... I think this feature is much more valid request than many other out there.

You'd have to write a text reader recognizing tags and stuff like that, this while there are xml readers readily available and in fact already implemented into the game.

Right now, many things are hard-coded in ( while text might be coming from database ).
The code will say something like ( in easier terms ) get x text from object y in database q and print it here.
What CCP would have to change is the following ( again massively simplified ) get r color for z element from t xml settings file, get x text from object y in database q and print it here.

Again, massively oversimplified, but you do spot the difference right?
Now, download the source-code for a game called Jagged Alliance 2 ( it is freely available ), notice how relatively small it is compared to eve and then how many code files it has, now imagine what eve would be like.

I understand what you're trying to say, but do you have any clue how EvE code looks like?

Anyway, I do hope they're not attacking their own database with silly requests such as 'text(#).getColor()'.

There isn't any common color scheme the devs can configure to. I've learned to adapt baed on true colors and how I actually see them.
I know grass isn't orange. even though that's how I see it..so when I see that shade, i know it's really green. You start messing with base colors and you screw up people like me who've learned to adapt what they see with what it actually is.

Nope, 11.9 GB says enough though ( audio and video takes up only 972 MB ), 10.7 GB just in files in the main folder.



They'd be getting the color from a local file ( the xml file ).
I don't know if text comes from database or client side ( i think it's client side ), but in both cases they'd still need to grab the text codewise and they'd still need to change that code to reflect this change.