Back in the F&I threads when people were bouncing ideas off Rise and discussing the new battleships, there was a lot of hate directed at the new Tempest. Now that things have panned out a bit...is it still ****? Did anyone find a use for it? I've been combing pretty much every forum even tangentially related to eve, and it's like it doesn't exist. Lots of discussions on everything else, but it seems like nobody is using the Tempest. So what's the verdict?

I've given it a couple runs trough lowsec, with 800 ACs and a shield buffer.
I's agile and fast enough to work in solo/small gangs, and it's still good as a neut/utility boat.

It's still not a proper BS, but fly it like an over-sized BC and it works pretty fine.
I don't really know how it performs in PVE, but i still don't see it being any better than a mael.

The Tempest has somewhat more EHP, better alpha, and a lot more powergrid. Fitting 1400mms on a 'pest requires some fitting compromises. It's pretty much impossible on a 'phoon (almost 4000 grid deficit just from the guns with all V skills)

The Tempest has somewhat more EHP, better alpha, and a lot more powergrid. Fitting 1400mms on a 'pest requires some fitting compromises. It's pretty much impossible on a 'phoon (almost 4000 grid deficit just from the guns with all V skills)

Anyone remember when you could camp gates with a 1400 'pest and 6x damage mods in the low slots? Sensor boosters and light shield tank in the mids.

Ah, good times. You didn't need tackle.

So many non-OP changes could have been made... but hey lets stick to lamepest. 7th Turret to actually give it an edge on raw gunnery? Nah... single greater damage bonus with falloff or tracking?... Nah, lets just keep it as an expensive oversized BC.

I remember these days very well and with a good reason to.

The day i got in my tempest and fit 1400s was the same day...

...Tracking values and formula was introduced.

Tracking was pretty much introduced to stop the aforementioned gate instakilla and the gankageddon, literally killing all ship types effortlessly.

The pest went from top dog, to smelly old dog in a matter of hours *le sigh* (1400s were given the worst tracking of any turret in the game at the time)

Apparently, stationary ships don't react well to 1400's

And what's wrong with an oversized BC? The Tempest is good for when you feel like an AC tornado would do the job but you'd better have more tank, drones and heavy neuts.

Apparently, stationary ships don't react well to 1400's

^ That place is taken by maelstrom and or tornado,and abbadon and apoc(pre changes)...being able to fit guns(only thing that ship can use unlike phoon that can choose) isn't rly something to write home about,especially if you are last choice for using said guns!

Tempest is as tempest does.

Its not that CCP cant think of anything cool to do with it, they just cant be bothered.

Why fix a ship no one cares about anyway? :P

new tempest is like the old tempest, jack of no trades and master of none of them either LOL

Tempest is an over sized BC, Decent damage with neuts, ok buffer, and i love mine to death.

Have not used the phoon post patch tho. I'm starting to think i need to go buy one.

[
There is abolutely NOTHING that should make you choose a tempest for any role other than looking cool.

You like autocannons, and having more reach than a torp 'phoon does?

Is this thread about a T1 Tempest, or a TFI? I've made a TFI fit which is very nice and compares very favourably to a Mach for less money. The TFI doesn't seem that bad to me.

The tempest is dooomed foverer as being the most beutiful yet least powerful battleship. Just due to stubornes. We conceptualized a LOT of different changes that woudl bring it to a power level close of the other battleships, but we are ignored, because CCP is adamant in the DUMB idea of a battleship that is equaly bad in ALL THINGS in battlefield.

Yeah. A lot of the battleships got huge hull improvements. The Hyperion got 125 bandwidth AND 175 m3 drone bay AND a 10% damage bonus AND got an extra low slot. Cruise missles got buffed a ton so Typhoon and Raven were obviously boosted. Typhoon was turned into a dedicated missile boat and got a damage application bonus. Armageddon is a drone boat with neut/nos range bonus. Megathron got an extra low and 5% rof. Tempest was never really that great and got no real improvements. Why?