Put it in a container then courier contract it to your freighter pilot (aka double wrap) problem solved.

So a courier contract can be seen into by ship scanners, and a container can be seen into by ship scanners, but if you put the two together then it cannot be scanned?

How likely is it that the gankers will just gamble if it's wrapped up like this and do it anyway?

Put it in a container then courier contract it to your freighter pilot (aka double wrap) problem solved.

So a courier contract can be seen into by ship scanners, and a container can be seen into by ship scanners, but if you put the two together then it cannot be scanned?

How likely is it that the gankers will just gamble if it's wrapped up like this and do it anyway?

Nothing obtained in High Sec justifies a Freighter. The freighter was designed to carry capital parts.

Use an Orca.

What's the most isk value you should carry in a freighter to limit the chances of being suicide ganked in high sec?

At what point do suicide gankers start to turn a profit?

What's the most isk value you should carry in a freighter to limit the chances of being suicide ganked in high sec?

At what point do suicide gankers start to turn a profit?

Nothing obtained in High Sec justifies a Freighter. The freighter was designed to carry capital parts.

Use an Orca.

But what about my hauling 1.4 mill m3 of minerals to build said capital parts D:

A freighter full of trit isn't worth ganking.

Currently, Red Frog Freight, one of the largest hisec freight services, won't accept any contract with a collateral value of over 1 billion ISK.

What freighter are you flying that can carry 1.4 mil M3? I must have missed that one.

Usually, a good rule to follow is "Whatever you feel comfortable losing". However, speaking from experience, I'd say the safer bet is to go no higher than 1.5 billion. Doubly so if you're carrying sleeper loot.

What's the most isk value you should carry in a freighter to limit the chances of being suicide ganked in high sec?

At what point do suicide gankers start to turn a profit?

I did some math today and here is what i found:

1) assume perfect catalyst pilots

2) assume perfect Obelisk pilot

3) calculate EHP of Obelisk given assumption '2' above and the result is not more than 400,000 EHPs

4) calculate damage a perfect catalyst pilot can do in 7 seconds given only hybrid blasters with just 2 round of faction ammo per turret since this is the only 2 volleys they will get off in 7 seconds before CONCORDATION (answer is approx 1000 damage).

5) 1000 damage / catalyst means it will take approx 400 perfect catalyst pilots to destroy the best defensed freighter possible in seven seconds.

6) catalysts fitted as described cost approx 1 million ISK per ship.

7) Current cost of an Obelisk 1.3 billion

8) estimated loot and salvage from an EMPTY 1.3 billion ISK ship (650 million)

.....and finally the answer to your question....'How much cargo does it take to make ganking your freighter profitable:

ZERO.

the gank fleet described will net approximately 250 million ISK ganking your EMPTY Obelisk.

Guys guys I am going to say too many freighters are getting ganked but I won't say how many that is or how many would be not too many* and I am going to try and whip up a forum shitstorm by making stuff up like trying to claim destroying an empty freighter yeilds 650m in drops

See also:

Suicide ganking is not real PvP
Hi-sec isn't meant to be a PvP area
Making freighters invulnerable protects new players
Suicide gankers are criminals/sociopaths/child abuse victims/virgins in real life
A bloo bloo a bloo hoo



*One would be too many

What's the most isk value you should carry in a freighter to limit the chances of being suicide ganked in high sec?

Usually, a good rule to follow is "Whatever you feel comfortable losing". However, speaking from experience, I'd say the safer bet is to go no higher than 1.5 billion. Doubly so if you're carrying sleeper loot.