Change to a cloaky hauler and put giant secure containers to mask your cargo.

Don't forget to activate your cloaking device after you jump.

I did some math today and here is what i found:

1) assume perfect catalyst pilots

2) assume perfect Obelisk pilot

3) calculate EHP of Obelisk given assumption '2' above and the result is not more than 400,000 EHPs

4) calculate damage a perfect catalyst pilot can do in 7 seconds given only hybrid blasters with just 2 round of faction ammo per turret since this is the only 2 volleys they will get off in 7 seconds before CONCORDATION (answer is approx 1000 damage).

5) 1000 damage / catalyst means it will take approx 400 perfect catalyst pilots to destroy the best defensed freighter possible in seven seconds.

6) catalysts fitted as described cost approx 1 million ISK per ship.

7) Current cost of an Obelisk 1.3 billion

8) estimated loot and salvage from a 1.3 billion ISK ship (650 million)

.....and finally the answer to your question....'How much cargo does it take to make ganking your freighter profitable:

ZERO.

the gank fleet described will net approximately 250 million ISK ganking your EMPTY Obelisk.

Nothing obtained in High Sec justifies a Freighter. The freighter was designed to carry capital parts.

Use an Orca.

Who teh **** will participate in freighter ganking in a god damn 400 pilot nightmare of a fleet to get half a million ISK per empty freighter kill? And it's barely 10 million/kills for a 4 billion drop wich would first have to be separated because you can't cut sleeper loot in slices on the go.

400 pilots...

8) estimated loot and salvage from a 1.3 billion ISK ship (650 million)

the gank fleet described will net approximately 250 million ISK ganking your EMPTY Obelisk.

He's obviously also forgetting that given all of his numbers, nobody turns a profit here since the cost of the concorded ships exceed that of the loot payout per pilot.

I didn't realize empty ships could drop loot? Does the loot fairy just toss some in upon explosion?

Also, you're going to somehow manage to get 400 people to go through all of this aggravation and effort for a measly (250 million profit (assumed)/400 pilots) 625,000 ISK each? What kind of low rent scrubs are in those catalysts?

He was assuming i mill / cats but it's over that for his expected 1k dps yeah...

Salvages assuming you get anything. Not sure how much does drop from a freighter tho...

So, to set a trap for gankers double wrap semi-empty containers and autopilot to Jita?

*mischievous giggle*

So, to set a trap for gankers double wrap semi-empty containers and autopilot to Jita?

*mischievous giggle*

So I see you gave this a lot of thought.

simple solution freighters align slow right, get a corpy in a t1 frig, with webs follow your freighter everytime it jumps web it so it aligns faster,

this will decrease the chances of it getting ganked,

Put it in a container then courier contract it to your freighter pilot (aka double wrap) problem solved.

Orcas can be made three times as difficult to destroy using a single module.

But they need that extra cargo!

What freighter are you flying that can carry 1.4 mil M3? I must have missed that one.

4) calculate damage a perfect catalyst pilot can do in 7 seconds given only hybrid blasters with just 2 round of faction ammo per turret since this is the only 2 volleys they will get off in 7 seconds before CONCORDATION (answer is approx 1000 damage).

6) catalysts fitted as described cost approx 1 million ISK per ship.

What's the most isk value you should carry in a freighter to limit the chances of being suicide ganked in high sec?

At what point do suicide gankers start to turn a profit?

Slight inaccuracy in your math here, 7 seconds is enough time to get off 3 volleys at which point Concord rollup in a 1.0 or 0.9. Last time I checked the major choke points used for freighter ganking are 0.6 systems, which gives you approximately 14 seconds to get off your volleys before Concord turn up. The Concord response can be delayed by a few seconds more by baiting them elsewhere in system.

Closer to 2 million, especially if you rig it.