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destiny2 Abh Academy Abh Alliance 140	Posted - 2013.06.25 23:33:00 - [1] - Quote we have all seen what the ham legion can do. but have you ever thought about adding some spice to your legion. You all are prolly wondering what sort of spice. so here it is [Legion, New Setup 1] Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer <<<<< triple small deadspace reps F*ck Yeah! Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor EM Hardener II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner Shadow Serpentis Stasis Webifier Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst it actually works great for being cap stable. sure some would say 2 medium reps be better, but after doing the math these cycle faster then mediums giveing you about the same hp back as medium reps do.
Shereza Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 143	Posted - 2013.06.26 03:19:00 - [2] - Quote #1 748 DPS omni tank is way overkill for a ship that small even if it's standing still. #2 If you replace two hardeners with A-Type ANPs and remove the third you get a free low slot for a second BCS. #3 420 rDPS with T2 damage ammo is kinda bad. [Legion, HAM] Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer Corpii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization Should be more than enough tank so long as you're smart and avoid getting webbed, has better damage application, and does 514 rDPS before using T2 damage ammo. That would bump it up to nearly 700 rDPS, almost a 75% increase over what you've posted.
destiny2 Abh Academy Abh Alliance 142	Posted - 2013.06.26 03:25:00 - [3] - Quote Shereza wrote: #1 748 DPS omni tank is way overkill for a ship that small even if it's standing still. #2 If you replace two hardeners with A-Type ANPs and remove the third you get a free low slot for a second BCS. #3 420 rDPS with T2 damage ammo is kinda bad. [Legion, HAM] Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer Corpii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization Should be more than enough tank so long as you're smart and avoid getting webbed, has better damage application, and does 514 rDPS before using T2 damage ammo. That would bump it up to nearly 700 rDPS, almost a 75% increase over what you've posted. Umm.. No... warhead cats not my style.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 5320	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:07:00 - [4] - Quote I don't get the fit, as in what is it meant for? It doesn't seem like a really good choice for anything. A ton of fitting left unused, too much tank, not that fast, weak damage, short range and bad damage application.
Whitehound 1473	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:27:00 - [5] - Quote destiny2 wrote: ... it actually works great for being cap stable. sure some would say 2 medium reps be better, but after doing the math these cycle faster then mediums giveing you about the same hp back as medium reps do. not to mention most level IV's can be done with a little tank. as if you keep moveing you dont soak up as much damage. Replace your low-slots for this: Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Two medium repairers are a lot cheaper than three small A-Types and also use less cap. There is nothing sexy about wasting 90m ISKs for no gain. The third hardener is also a waste, because it leaves Thermal as your resistance hole. Use an EANM II instead and you will have Kinetic as your new resistance hole, but with a value higher than the previous Thermal resistance hole. The DCU II then adds an unpenalized resistance bonus to armor, which pushes the resistances even further and also adds resistances to the hull. The overall result is a much cheaper tank, with less cap usage, a higher eHP and a higher rep rate (38.6k eHP, 918 HP/s). You may want to drop the DCU II and go for a second BCU to have more DPS. Then replace your med-slots for this: Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Large Capacitor Battery II Cap Recharger II With the ISKs you saved by selling the three small A-Type repairers can you get better faction modules. The cap battery gives you more cap and at a higher stability while it also protects against energy neutralizers. You have enough PG/CPU left to fit one. This is only meant to give you an idea of what you can change immediately. The tank itself is far too powerful for only mission running and you should focus more on killing stuff than tanking it: kill faster and you automatically take less damage. You will get to realize this the moment your massive tank starts to bore you to death. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
StoneCold Somali Coast Guard BootCamp 260	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:37:00 - [6] - Quote destiny2 wrote: [...] [Legion, New Setup 1] Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer <<<<< triple small deadspace reps F*ck Yeah! Coreli A-Type Small Armor Repairer Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor EM Hardener II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner Shadow Serpentis Stasis Webifier Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst [...] Add a Warp disruptor instead of cap recharger II, change ab to mwd, add a cap booster instead of the 2nd cap recharger II. It looks quite promising for Highsec-'pvp'. My true stories
Kijimea Mulors 3	Posted - 2013.06.26 08:39:00 - [7] - Quote Never played a HAM Legion so what should be the advantage of a HAM legion against Lasers? Is this Setup for Missionrunning?! Too much tank. If it's up to missioning i'd really prefer my fit though. 322 Omni tank (~360 w/ implants ), 653/751(oh)dps w/ scorch at 44+8.2 and 914/1051(oh) dps w/ conflag at 15+8.2 (both with 2x5% implants) Even without those cheap 5% implants i'd have 829/953 dps with conflag and 322 omni tank with 726m/s is enough for most missions. Though i can still lose some dps for tank if ever i need it. So where is the use of a HAM legion for Lvl 4 PvE?
Whitehound 1478	Posted - 2013.06.26 18:25:00 - [8] - Quote Kijimea wrote: So where is the use of a HAM legion for Lvl 4 PvE? It is useful against tracking disrupting Sansha's and against Guristas, Mordus and Angels where one can use kinetic and explosive damage missiles. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 903	Posted - 2013.06.26 20:21:00 - [9] - Quote Shereza wrote: #1 748 DPS omni tank is way overkill for a ship that small even if it's standing still. #2 If you replace two hardeners with A-Type ANPs and remove the third you get a free low slot for a second BCS. #3 420 rDPS with T2 damage ammo is kinda bad. [Legion, HAM] Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer Corpii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization Should be more than enough tank so long as you're smart and avoid getting webbed, has better damage application, and does 514 rDPS before using T2 damage ammo. That would bump it up to nearly 700 rDPS, almost a 75% increase over what you've posted. I want a HAM sub for my Proteus ;( removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Caius Sivaris Dark Nexxus S I L E N T. 70	Posted - 2013.06.27 13:14:00 - [10] - Quote Kijimea wrote: Never played a HAM Legion so what should be the advantage of a HAM legion against Lasers? Shooting angels.



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