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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.06.26 07:07:00 -
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If it doesn't work can you come to the place you had a war against to get your freedoms with to get married then go back over? Or would the US not recognise a marriage in the UK as legal?
Our conservatives are in government and their arguments against gay marriage boiled down to can we get on with it and address the economy already? I don't think I will ever understand the big fuss about it over there, and I watch Bill Maher and The Daily show and I still can't grasp the logic.
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Posted - 2013.06.26 07:48:00 -
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Obama is fairly right wing from the perspective of most people outside the US, the Democrats are right of our right wing in any case, look at the wording of the Healthcare act and compare it to the wording of similar legislation in Russia, the UK, France and Japan. 7 grand for a medical bill? How the hell did that happen? 
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:21:00 -
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Being well educated has the side benefit of knowing how to word things and make the right arguments to those that are not. They probably don't care either way on a personal level, but they know what does get them elected to deal with the things that they do personally care about.
Also we don't care about gay rights here because we don't really care that much about peoples sexuality from what I've experienced, the arguments here are about semantics with regards to use of the word marriage due to civil partnerships covering all tax bases already.
And no offence, but the US health system sounds third world. No seriously, the only single nation in the developed world not to have a national healthcare system.
Isn't Medicaid supposed to take a big chunk of the tab of these expensive operations anyway in a critical scenario like your partners?
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.06.26 11:50:00 -
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Seems to be more a culture and values dissonance from both sides of the Atlantic.
We don't really... get it. 
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:32:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
2 Words: Texas Senate (last night)
Looked this up.
Not gonna lie, but I can't say I disagree with strict regulation of practices.
New York Times, Manny Fernandez wrote:The bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy, require abortion clinics to meet the same standards that hospital-style surgical centers do, and mandate that a doctor who performs abortions have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital.
That... doesn't sound too bad really. As I understand it current medical technology is greatly increasing the point at which a fetus is viable outside of the womb and encroaching on the area of potential transplants for carriage to term. Adoption centres exist too.
It's a complicated issue I haven't fully made my mind up on.
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2013.06.26 13:36:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
The problem, Kirjava, is that the Texas legislation would ban it after 20 weeks EVEN IF THE WOMAN'S LIFE IS IN DANGER.
Please.
Please say you made that up. Thats an abomination not to do that. I think even in many Islamic nations that its allowed under that scenario.
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Posted - 2013.06.26 16:43:00 -
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Congratulations 
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Posted - 2013.06.26 17:12:00 -
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I too have been on 4chan and Reddit.
I know of which identity politics you speak.
I will say no further than yes, those people need a hobby.
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Posted - 2013.06.26 21:15:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:All I will say, without reading any of the thread, is that if the word marriage was taken out of the debate and taken off of the legal paper work there would be zero debate, but no, both sides of the debate refuse to stop using the religious term marriage when it comes to the legal status known as Civil Union.
Thats what I thought it was, just semantics over a word, it's what it was over here anyway.
To me it seems like a Religion can grant a marriange and the state a Civil Union, and most people call it by the religious term reserved for the church.
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