Gates are fine.
Camps are the issue.
Campers blow up everything they are able to catch and kill, regardless of value, be that Isk or Tactical.
IF campers took the time to scan a ship to see if it had anything worth the ammo of killing and released those ships that did not, then you might see some decent gameplay.
However, there is always the Killmail Value and Bragging Rights, and aslong as those things carry any kind of weight, gate camps will remain until there is a better/easier way for the campers to get their jollies.

The problem here isnt the mechanics, its the nature of the human animal.

Only way to get rid of gate camps is to do away with the blob warfare, as a way to encourage small gang PvP (which should be the main PvP fare as it encourages having fun with your RL friends).

But the main problem is the cost to PvP is so high. Want more PvP and even attract more PvErs to engage in it here and there, the price for it has to come down. With the inflation in the game (100% ratio in 3 years), that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Give a man a title and this happens. Is it to late to retract my vote?

I also notice that you've been a busy boy and used your time machine to go back and change the economy sot that the inflation in the game is ~0% over six years...

See, this is why I voted for you for the CSM: because you are not afraid to do these large drastic measures, and do them with your own hands.

\o/

People whine about not enough people in low and null. Then they whine about altering travel mechanics to make it a bit simpler to travel in those areas.

All valid points, and I accept all of them. I'm not actually complaining about the camps, just suggesting an alternative and looking at the reasons for the current situation. I dont realistically expect CCP to make any changes to this as the Low/Null players would light up like Guy Fawkes.

The "optimal strategy" for short term profit is as you say, shoot now ask questions later, but long term, if you want to make Low/Null more populous, the current strategy will not achieve that any time soon. You can howl all you like for nerfing of HighSec, but past history shows removing things from High just pushes people to be more efficient at using whats left to them, because the other option of Low/Null is not what they are willing to buy into.

From my position, I can see that theres lots of desire to bring more people in to Low/Null, but realistically speaking, if the first thing that happens upon entering low sec is your ship exploding, youre not too likely to want to go back in.

IF the Low/Null community gave new fish a chance to get established, more of them would stay and more fights would ensue, in my opinion anyway.

They weren't always and every time I point this out I get a slammed but I'll say this again.

In the early days of Eve there wasn't anything that could survive the gate guns, then ships evolved and now gate guns mostly kill new players that don't understand how they work. Gate guns no longer serve any practical purpose.

So why doesn't CCP evolve the guns or just remove them, because right now they have no useful purpose? CCP thought once combat was supposed to be somewhere other than low sec gates but now doesn't seem to care. CCP recently floated a suggestion to fiddle the guns (which I supported) but the vocal minority (already prepping for rants about that comment) got CCP to back down.

So now I say "CCP, fix the guns or take them out all together!"

Issler

(1) If the Low/Null dwellers dont want more people in LowSec, why do they keep asking for the reasons to STAY in HighSec to be removed ?

(4) Every time a thread like this comes up you trot out the same line about nerfing high sec by removing L4 missions, thereby increasing the incentive to enter LowSec..... not once in a while.... pretty much EVERY time.

The "flaw" in the design is if your interest is industry the game isn't setup well for it. That's why the industrialists are in high-sec in the first place. Low/Null isn't setup to encourage such players to go into those zones, as you're a rifleman first there. If you have three hours a night to play with your "career" do you want to waste it on pewpewpews? No. You stay in high-sec to play your interest.

Now if the game mechanics changed to where industrialist could actually work at their "careers" in low/null, then yes high-sec will move down to low/null. It's all about "can I play my interest?".

When I first started EvE I joined null corps to get down there to play my interest and sadly very disappointed. Because there was little industry to do. Didn't have the Roqual fleets or research centers to ply my trades. Any of that was ad hoc and not enough to justify playing the game even. I quit EvE out of nothing to do but pewpewpews. That isn't why I came into EvE, I want to play what it has that no other MMO has, not play something that every MMO has...pointless waste of money.

OK then it should be pretty easy for you to link 2 or 3 examples of me doing that.

Great more slots, more minerals. Won't help get others out there. It'll just be more alts of the same old blocs.