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Specialist Nova
Legion of Darkwind
Order of the Void
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Posted - 2013.06.26 14:27:00 -
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So with the changes that have happened in the last few months while i was away, what is the best ship both barge and exhumer to use in high sec?
I have been out due to rl matters and i noticed a big change and im unsure about which is best for ore and which is best for ice.
Any advice is great
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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.26 14:42:00 -
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There is no longer a distinction between ore and ice miners. Instead, the mining ships now fit into the following roles:
max ore bay (ice and gas count as ore): Mackinaw
Fastest miner: hulk
Best tank: skiff
T1 is the same.
As for best in fleet, it depends in how active you are and the support you have. A hulk out mines anything else, but has a small ore bay. If you have an orca or are willing to jetcan mine and have a dedicated hauler, the hulk is a good choice.
If, however, you are going solo use the Mac. It has the largest ore bay, so less trips to station. Many will use the mac simply because it's easier. A hulk can fill its ore bay rapidly, which may lead to waste if you aren't emptying it as fast.
Skiff is for tank.
Oh and the venture is the new mining frigate. It's a good starter ship, good at gas mining, and has +2 warp strength. |
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.26 14:43:00 -
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Covetor/Hulk = fleet
Retriever/Mackinaw = solo
Procurer/Skiff = solo
There's no ice specialist ship anymore. Also Skiff lost its unique bonus.
Covetor/Hulk: worst tank, highest yield for both ore and ice
Procurer/Skiff: lowest yield for ore and ice but dat tank |
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.26 15:38:00 -
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Tobias Hareka wrote:Covetor/Hulk = fleet
Retriever/Mackinaw = solo
Procurer/Skiff = solo
There's no ice specialist ship anymore. Also Skiff lost its unique bonus.
Covetor/Hulk: worst tank, highest yield for both ore and ice
Procurer/Skiff: lowest yield for ore and ice but dat tank
Yield is significantly dependent on how you fit the ship. If you fit a retriever for maximum survival while fitting a procurer for maximum yield the procurer will mine more than the retriever and still have more buffer.
Speaking solely for myself the "best" ships for fleet mining are:
Covetor/Hulk = active mining with "all hands on deck." IOW all "miners" are paying attention all the time
Retriever/Mackinaw = ice mining while nobody's really paying attention to the game and it's safe enough to do so
Procurer/Skiff = solo fleet (i.e. multi-boxing) ore/ice mining when you don't want to pay attention to the game until your ore holds are full
I might still use a retriever/mackinaw for ice mining in a quiet system, but otherwise I'll just slap a couple upgrades on a procurer and use that. It's cheaper, has more EHP, and it'll have the same yield as any retriever fitting fewer than three upgrades. |
Warran Simalia
Perpetual Industries and Technologies
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Posted - 2013.06.27 07:15:00 -
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There has definitely been some changes to ice mining as well, as they can only be found by scanning...and you need some higher level skills to be able to find the sites to begin with. However, like everyone else has said, it just depends on if you are fleeting or not. From your title, it sounds like its a fleet. So I would definitely go Covetor/Hulk, just for the yield they have....since you will have (should have) a hauler in your fleet. |
Marcus Gideon
Federal Defense Operations
Gentlemen's Interstellar Nightclub
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Posted - 2013.06.27 08:02:00 -
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Looks like it's all been covered.
Procurer/Skiff - Ninja miner. Inherent warp stabs make for easier getaways. And can tank better than most BS.
Retriever/Mackinaw - Solo miner. Largest ore bay equal or exceeding a Jet Can of internal storage.
Covetor/Hulk - Fleet miner. Tiny internal storage, but best for mining speed. Dump into your nearby hauler and keep it moving.
If you're starting a new high sec mining op, and you don't have the numbers for miners, haulers, and support... focus on miners in Ret/Mack. Everyone mines until their full, hauls ass for the station, and comes back to do it again.
Once you have the numbers, swap to Cov/Hulk miners, with an Orca collecting and boosting. And with the recent changes, a Freighter could be your hauler to station... Poor Industrials, out of a job.
EDIT: Oh yeah, as for Ice mining... that's become a Rig. Plug into whatever ship you're using, and it suddenly becomes a better Ice miner. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:32:00 -
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Warran Simalia wrote:There has definitely been some changes to ice mining as well, as they can only be found by scanning...and you need some higher level skills to be able to find the sites to begin with.
Ice belts are anomalies, not signatures. No scanning required, no skills necessary. They'll automatically show up in the ship scanner if they're present in a system.
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Specialist Nova
Rapture Labs And Research
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:39:00 -
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Alright Thanks for all of the information! |
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