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Cannibal Kane
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
1942
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Posted - 2013.06.27 09:54:00 -
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I don't like KB's.
But for some reason it is a must if you want to join a pvp corp or get hired as a merc to shoot at people.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
1165
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:25:00 -
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I like to be able to track my own record of ships ive used over certain months doing certain types of pvp.
I rarely use kill boards to judge others, however if somone is shooting their mouth off about being amazing i might check, but not to rub in their face.
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Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2013.06.27 11:13:00 -
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I dislike giving any of my information away to killboards. So generally I don't post up any of my kills. Unfortunately this means my killboard comprises of only losses and kills I was involved in. lol I don't really care though to be honest. |
Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
656
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Posted - 2013.06.27 11:16:00 -
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I like killboards.
I don't like ADHD kids that worship said killboards. |
Helios Aquiness
The Rising Stars Academy
20
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Posted - 2013.06.27 13:08:00 -
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CompleteFailure wrote:*boards
*reminisce
*having
*permanent
*efficiency
*knowledge
*losing
*wherever
*strategic
*in fact
*making
*skittish
*losing
*easily
*don't
*I'm
*somewhat
*don't
*I've
*barred
*prospective
*I'm
*curious
Man that was painful to read.
I am sorry about that, I usually use firefox so I have the spell check, but at work I'm stuck with IE so I have to reliy on my own intelimagence. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1081
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Posted - 2013.06.27 13:55:00 -
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If Eve was truly immersive, there would be no detailed killboards.
The Eve universe is a big big place. It has 7500 systems.
It is filled with thousands of disparate groups, many that have zero interest in letting others know who, or what they are killing.
To suggest that there should be an organized over-arching group that tracks every kill is ridiculous, and not immersive.
Yes, Concord is an over-arching group that sees all in this game, but it in any real world analogy, Concord would not be releasing specific data on ship fits, and value of fits.
Space fighter pilots should have general reputations that are built over time, with no true verifiable method parsing fact from hyperbole.
Billy the Kid may know specifically how many people he killed, but he would be the only one who knows with absolute certainty, and he sure never knew how much his victim's weapons were worth to the penny.
And in large wars, even in today's age of instant information, do countries give out public details about precisely what a casualty was wearing and what equipment he had on him? As far as I know, in the chaos of war, even a soldier's immediate superiors would not have that knowledge.
If organized groups in Eve (for sake of argument the equivalent of armies) want to keep track of generalized kills and losses, no problem. They can keep track of the general value of a kill, but not detailed on what dropped, what was destroyed, and not how much to the penny it was worth. And if said organizations want to release generalized data to the public, fine. But there should be no way for the public to confirm the veracity of it, with something like an API key.
So API specific detail is ridiculous and non-immersive, and completely unrealistic, even within the confines of the Eve universe. |
Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research
Epsilon Fleet
522
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Posted - 2013.06.27 16:42:00 -
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As a carebear, I like em. I don't know how pvpers would stroke their epeens with out it. PVP would die overnight w/o KB \/\/horing.
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
-irregardless, I'm with Yolo Swaggins, and the followship of the bling.-á |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15268
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Posted - 2013.06.27 16:46:00 -
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Third option: never used with them; don't care.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Karl Planck
Heretic Army
Heretic Initiative
328
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Posted - 2013.06.27 17:16:00 -
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Toriessian wrote:KBs aren't much more than an activity monitor. Aside from that they're useless since everyone who shoots a ship is on the KM and that goes to their isk efficiency. It creates an ISK efficiency tracking situation where everyone who PVPs with any level of reasonable success has a good KB.
That is hilariously untrue
And to answer the OP. KB chasing CAN get out of hand. People whoring on expensive kills can be misleading about how much someone really contributed to something or what it means.
Isk efficiency is a common problem with those as getting on a few expensive kills makes it look like you know how to kill expensive **** and never die, when normally all the isk being destroyed is really facilitated by a few people (eve-kill problem). Similarly, BC has the problem of point whoring to inflate what is going to on. Nuetral logi, boosts, etc all inflate whats really going on.
However, kb's are, when viewed carefully, amazing metrics to judge a pilot/corp/alliance by in addition to be strong intel tools. Intel tools go both ways so those that ***** are just to lazy to use the intel. As far as a metric, people will most often paint themselves in the best light, but the tools are there for you to judge them by.
I f*cking love KB's
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Azriel Geist
Shinrei Syndicate
Brigands of New Eden
77
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Posted - 2013.06.27 17:45:00 -
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They're pretty ghetto patchworks of PHP... and useful for intel.
Beyond that, meh. Pretty neutral. |
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Helios Aquiness
The Rising Stars Academy
20
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Posted - 2013.06.28 13:00:00 -
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I had a thought, if kill boards were changed so that you could see everything you can now EXCEPT who was piloting it, how much would that change things? |
Tyrell Cadabra
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
1
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Posted - 2013.06.28 13:44:00 -
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For me to care about killboards, there would have to be ONE central board, not 15 of them, all claiming to be 'the' board.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
345
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Posted - 2013.06.28 14:12:00 -
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Too much information is on kill boards. Remove all fitting and cargo information from kill mails. You don't need to see how a dead ship is fit. Now the winning ship... that is the fit I want to see.
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Sunshyn LaBlond
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:38:00 -
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They mattered for about a week when I first got into PvP. Very quickly they become irrelevant other than as a reference for those rare comedy wins/losses that make for good conversation.
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