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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.11.28 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey ôAdv lvl5 is a waste atm; three years to recover the time investedö I have mine at adv level 5 and its already paid its self back.
How is that?
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2005.11.29 07:00:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 29/11/2005 07:02:48 ôHow is that?ö A while back I maxed all the skills to level 5 I need. So I started learning the Adv Learning to level 5. By the time I maxed out Adv 5 new skills came out I needed to train like Advanced Leadership skills, T2 drones e.c.t
So I didnÆt lose anything by training to Adv5 and I can train new advanced skills faster then most people. At one point I was 5+ million skill points behind my corp mates. Now I am millions ahead of them.
If you have someone with Adv lvl 5 and they train 10+ new skills some of which are advanced skills them selfÆs like Squadron Command and you compare them to someone without Adv 5 then the person with Adv 5 will be over 1 week ahead in training. So its not 3 years to pay its self back once you take into account the advantages of training new skills and mastering new roles.
A great example is Gang assist. ItÆs a relatively new role with upcoming T2 ships and the current modules are still only months old. Few people had the leadership skills at level 5 and no one had the advanced leadership skills. So I had a big advantage while training all these new Charisma based skills. It took me 21 days to go from Squadron Command level 4 to level 5, I then did Armored Warfare Specialist, next I am working on Siege Warfare Specialist level 5 lastly I need to max out the last none adv Leadership skill.
Some people are approaching being in the game for 3 years as well. I can see lots of other people still being here in 3 years time.
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2005.11.29 07:31:00 -
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All to 5, save the Charisma skills, and once I'm done training my shield skills, I'll be training that one too. Not sure if I'll take it all the way to Advanced lvl 5, as the only reason I'm training it is for the T2 Battlecruisers, though, I might.
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Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2005.11.29 08:33:00 -
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When I was happy that I could kind fly a frigate (1Million SP) I decided now was the time and pushed all advanced skills to 4 (except for Charisma as that came no further than adv. lvl3.
Now though all are on 4 and I'm thinking about pushing them to 5 just because of it would finish them once and for all (and every time I think that about a skill CCP releases a patch with new skills in that group (like caldari BS and torps to lvl5, welcome missile patch ))
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Niki Silver
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Posted - 2005.11.29 09:31:00 -
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Train all the advanced ones to 4, 5 isn't worth it imo. Training attribute skills is how you "level" in Eve. Do you want to earn 7 million SP per year or 14 million? It only takes 6 weeks to train all 5 of them to advanced level 4, do it or make millions of SP less then your fellow players are making.
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Masu'di
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Posted - 2005.11.29 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine Had them at 'basic' lvl.4 for the longest time... eventually bit the bullet and got them to lvl.5 and advanced ones to l.3, with exception of the primary learning skill and charisma which are still at l.4 (being charisma is already pretty high as it is... will likely train it to match the others when i start pushing further the leadership skills)
was the same for me too.
i just feel sorry for the newbs that get told to train up all their learning skills before doing anything else :/
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.11.29 11:05:00 -
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if u intend playing long term ie 2 yeras or more at least like i intend to do 10 months down already then yes advanced learning skills at least to 4 are the way to go - throw in +3 implants and u can do pretty good
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kopite
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Posted - 2005.11.29 11:15:00 -
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Basics were to lvl 4 really quick, now have the advanced skills all to three, (sub 6mill Sp's total), gone back to making things go pop now though, 4 and 5 advance3d can wait for now. .................................................. I'd be Unstopppable.. if i could just get started! |

Macro Media
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Posted - 2005.11.29 11:17:00 -
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In some cases Advanced Lvl 5 is a waste, in others it is a benifit. Which are you?
E.G Guy with 3 perception, gets 12 perception for adv. lvl4 or 13 perception for adv.lvl5 Now the percentage diffrence is quite high. If training lots of perception skills then lvl5 is worth it.
E.G Guy with 14 perception gets to 23 with adv.lvl4, or 24 with adv.lvl5 Now the percentage diffrence is very low. Usually the payback will take a long time.
For all others, +5's for the win. More realistically, 0.0 players can afford to have one or two +4's for the skills that they are currently training up. ------------ Criminal EVE Guides Evil Genius 101 Guide |

sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.11.29 11:23:00 -
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dont forget implants being if u are a medium term player wanting to train up a bit more quickly and move into high sec andget applicable +4 implants get youre skills up rapidly then move back into low sec or 0.0 where u can loose implants
Though jump clones will bring another dimension and boosters to
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JCLawson
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Posted - 2005.11.29 11:29:00 -
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L4 or 5 advanced on all.
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Rodge
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Posted - 2005.11.29 11:30:00 -
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Rodge - Level 5 Advanced Perception, Level 5 Willpower (2 hours left), all others Advanced Level 4 (even the charisma one) Gumpy - Level 5 Advanced Perception, Level 5 Intelligence, all others Advanced Level 4 (even the charisma one) My indy guy - Level 5 Advanced Perception, Level 5 Advanced Willpower, Level 5 Advanced Intelligence, all others Advanced Level 4 (even the charisma one)
Basically went for level 4 advanced in all of them when they came out (already had most of the basic learning skills to 5), and treated myself to level 5 in a couple every now and again.
They may never pay themselves off in training time. But if I'm still playing in 12 months then they will have paid for themselves.
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Omatje
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Posted - 2005.11.29 12:03:00 -
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All advanced learning skills on 4 except Charisma.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2005.11.29 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dak Hakin I dunno... Learning, perception, and memory up to 4 I think... I think learning how to learn is just damn silly.
What are you, 12?
Bad learning skills is what dropped me out of college.
Remind me about The Maze.
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Silver Night
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Posted - 2005.11.29 19:11:00 -
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All to 5, like having a full skill folder of 5s ------------------ Silver Night Director -Production and Science
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