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Fortior	Posted - 2005.11.28 17:22:00 - [61] Originally by: Aaron Rex Originally by: Deovina Edited by: Deovina on 27/11/2005 23:52:57 Considering there are some Icelandic(?) speaking folks in this thread. I've wondered what kind of chart this is: Pic from Fanfest GDP? It's the value of software exports from Iceland in Icelandic Crowns (ISK). The red part is how much Eve has contributed to that in the past few years. As you can see it's starting to be a large share so there is a lot to be lost by Iceland if they do move. And to the Dev's, please don't move, I'd miss you. Get the rest of the software developers as a whole to organise a lobbying group to pressure the govn't into some sort of action. Goodness gracious, pretty much all of the IT growth for Iceland since 2003 (and 2006 projected) is because of CCP! Really goes to show how important CCP is, and how small Iceland is Reminds me of Sweden. I heard their Minister of Law played soccer match with a bunch of n3rds for some reality show. It'd be hard to see John Ashcroft do that Small countries are fun.
pk blinder	Posted - 2005.11.28 17:22:00 - [62] CCP are a high end knowledge industry. I dare say all the employees would have something to say about an international move, so don't expect that any time soon, especially as CCP have just moved into larger premesis. But just because they have a load of staff in Iceland, does not necessarily mean they have to have their corporate HQ located there! It may be more efficient to locate the HQ abroad in a tax haven and have payments and profits go through there, but it is a complicated arena. This does however have the typical look of influencing arguments presented to governments by business for some greater luvin!
Thyro	Posted - 2005.11.28 18:30:00 - [63] Originally by: kieron Here is the situation in short. CCP is losing a significant amount of money due to a combination of taxes and the strength of ISK compared to other currencies. CCP has just moved offices from one area of town to the docks. The new office space is almost twice the size of the old and a much better utilization of the area. There is also potential to expand upwards, if needed. Two nations (Canada and the Isle of Man) have begun 'courting' CCP to move location. As with any offers of this nature, we are investigating them, but that is all we are doing at this time. Can't you move for some Off-shore Island so that you would be able to reduce the price of the montly fees? Just a though
Hakera	Posted - 2005.11.28 18:43:00 - [64] Edited by: Hakera on 28/11/2005 18:43:16 Originally by: kieron Two nations (Canada and the Isle of Man) have begun 'courting' CCP to move location. As with any offers of this nature, we are investigating them, but that is all we are doing at this time. If you need a guide to the isle of man, look me up :) being a fund accountant here, I know you will benefit from no general capital gains tax, turnover tax or capital transfer tax, and there are no stamp duties. Apart from VAT, the only significant tax is income tax which is levied on 'persons', ie individuals or corporations (companies). The isle has been driving hard to attract e-commerce in particular a lot of the online gambling sites are run for here and they usual throw in other incentives like financial grants and phased taxation on profits. But they will probably negotiate with you individually as your turnover will be much higher than current online business I think. IoM Government website on e-commerce is here anyway Housing price wise, you can get an idea from here but I can tell you now, the nightlife isnt as good as iceland is and many of the women are veritable 'swamp donkeys' though the manx are decended vikings and proud of it (Im a 'comeover' as they call me - well half manx anyway) so erm you might share some ancestry with them and rape, pillage and plunder occasionally. On a plus note, manchester, london, dublin are all accessible so you could be in london within an hour and tending to TQ much easier than currently. heh, the government better give me some commission if you did move here Dumbledore - Eve-I.com
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2005.11.28 18:45:00 - [65] Well the Farice cable went down again today (linkage in the out-of-pod forum, any discussion on that ought to go there I suppose) ... so that can only move CCP's consideration a little further towards "let's go somewhere that ships don't keep chewing up the cables and cutting us off from our product."
JAG Solex	Posted - 2005.11.28 21:21:00 - [66] Originally by: kieron Here is the situation in short. CCP is losing a significant amount of money due to a combination of taxes and the strength of ISK compared to other currencies. CCP has just moved offices from one area of town to the docks. The new office space is almost twice the size of the old and a much better utilization of the area. There is also potential to expand upwards, if needed. Two nations (Canada and the Isle of Man) have begun 'courting' CCP to move location. As with any offers of this nature, we are investigating them, but that is all we are doing at this time. If you're going to come to Canada, make sure it's BC. The other 90% of Canada is basically hostile to human life for half the year. Some links: About BC BC High Tech Info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [SOLST]<ASCN>
Demarcus	Posted - 2005.11.28 21:26:00 - [67] Move to the US we have plenty of room and our currency isn't worth crap. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
Natasha Kerensky	Posted - 2005.11.28 21:51:00 - [68] Originally by: Demarcus Move to the US we have plenty of room and our currency isn't worth crap. Actually, come to Texas, we are better than the rest of the US kthnxbye Lieutenant, Deputy Chief of Security Channel: CAINCOM
Raem Civrie	Posted - 2005.11.28 22:05:00 - [69] Edited by: Raem Civrie on 28/11/2005 22:08:00 Alot of Icelandic export-based businesses have been tanking recently, as the currency exchange rates are just stupid right now. The dollar used to be around 100+ isk during the clinton residency, but is down to around 62 isk. Along with that, a bevy of large construction efforts and influx of external labour has artificually inflated the value of the isk. We'll hit heavy inflation in less than a year, methinks. --- God-King of Genitalia
Graelyn	Posted - 2005.11.28 23:13:00 - [70] Hilmar looks like he's lost some weight. Good on him. :) Minister of Foreign Affairs - Aegis Militia Fleet Admiral/CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2005.11.28 23:24:00 - [71] Originally by: pardux also this leitari ;o Linkage Leading story eh? cool. I guess the question would be, 'would CCP / Eve lose part of it's soul moving elsewhere?'
Arti K	Posted - 2005.11.28 23:26:00 - [72] Whatever happened to all the "we just love to make video games" crap they were streaming when the game first came out? If you find a job you love, you'll never work a day in your life.
Burga Galti	Posted - 2005.11.28 23:33:00 - [73] They wouldn't lose any soul by moving to Scotland! Think about it, we're heavy drinkers (fit right in), great nightlife (Glasgow anyway), great attitude (like Iceland), same timezone as London, easily recruit lots & lots of GMs (many trained for dealing with the public). Downside: Neds. Oh yea, did I mention the beer? **************** Pain is a way of knowing yourself; Death is the ultimate in self-discovery.
Avon	Posted - 2005.11.28 23:34:00 - [74] Isle of Man TT + Fan Fest = winnah. ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2005.11.28 23:38:00 - [75] Originally by: Burga Galti They wouldn't lose any soul by moving to Scotland! Think about it, we're heavy drinkers (fit right in), great nightlife (Glasgow anyway), great attitude (like Iceland), same timezone as London, easily recruit lots & lots of GMs (many trained for dealing with the public). Downside: Neds. Oh yea, did I mention the beer? :-) I guess everyone want's them to move to their hometown because it sounds like a fantastic place to work. Need a Neuroscientist CCP?
BM Trader	Posted - 2005.11.28 23:39:00 - [76] Originally by: JAG Solex Edited by: JAG Solex on 28/11/2005 21:25:30 Originally by: kieron Here is the situation in short. CCP is losing a significant amount of money due to a combination of taxes and the strength of ISK compared to other currencies. CCP has just moved offices from one area of town to the docks. The new office space is almost twice the size of the old and a much better utilization of the area. There is also potential to expand upwards, if needed. Two nations (Canada and the Isle of Man) have begun 'courting' CCP to move location. As with any offers of this nature, we are investigating them, but that is all we are doing at this time. If you're going to come to Canada, make sure it's BC. The other 90% of Canada is basically hostile to human life for half the year. EDIT - and there are many scandinavian hockey players in Vancouver - they say it reminds them of home.. Who you ask? Marcus Naslund, Daniel & Henrik Sedin, Mattias Ohlund are the most notable ones. Some links: About BC BC High Tech Info ok thats not a nice thing to say about your country and being from ontario i find that offensive also if you check on ebay you'll find most of the canadian people selling eve stuff are from BC so ya that says a lot to backup what you said
Chronus26	Posted - 2005.11.28 23:59:00 - [77] LOL Scotland broke the FARICE line on more than one occasion... Damn scots... (BTW in from scotland) -----
Sochin	Posted - 2005.11.29 00:01:00 - [78] Originally by: Natasha Kerensky Originally by: Demarcus Move to the US we have plenty of room and our currency isn't worth crap. Actually, come to Texas, we are better than the rest of the US kthnxbye The only good thing to ever come out of Texas was id software. Nemo me impune lacessit
Soren	Posted - 2005.11.29 00:19:00 - [79] Would kieron be moving to Canada also since it's not "too far" from the US, or would he stay where he is. (If it theoritically ever happened ) _______________________________________________
jamesw	Posted - 2005.11.29 00:35:00 - [80] Have you considered Sealand?? I am sure Prince Roy would love to have you there! -- jamesw Rubra Libertas Militia Latest Vid: Bobbing for Xelas
smirnoff blue	Posted - 2005.11.29 01:43:00 - [81] i think they should move to the same street as me so i can hand dilever my petitions and get them on it quick
Celticjim	Posted - 2005.11.29 01:57:00 - [82] whoa...this is interesting. If Canada, what a great thing for any of the provinces. Although slightly partial, Alberta would be best bet for the lack of provincial sales tax, Bioware is located in Edmonton, and either the City of Edmonton, or City of St. Albert would provide some amazing incentives to have you grace their respective cities. If the provincial gov't gets going soon too, the supernet should be up and running in the next bit. Infrastructure is sound, not referring to technical, but economic, and the province is booming with the oil sands and related spin offs. I can't speak to the City of Edmonton, but the City of St. Albert would definitely be interested in speaking with CCP. CJ
Lorth	Posted - 2005.11.29 02:16:00 - [83] While it would be cool if CCP came to canada. I'm certain that what ever they decide, will be for the best interests of the company and the game. BTW, Canada has good beer.
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.11.29 02:36:00 - [84] well why not just buy some US$ once icelands currency has finished appreciating sell at a profit - called hedging
Spy4Hire	Posted - 2005.11.29 03:10:00 - [85] Originally by: Xerxes X I have heard of companies that still operate in the USA, but have their address in the UK (usually a small office) for legal and maybe financial reasons. Could this also apply to CCP? Xerxes X THose companies do that to get around paying taxes, while not passing on the requisite savings to purchasers... but tax evasion isn't the topic here... Well, CCP may be trying to get away from taxes too. Guess all they need to do is open a 1-room office in some dingy suburb of London?
Soren	Posted - 2005.11.29 03:39:00 - [86] Originally by: BM Trader Originally by: JAG Solex Edited by: JAG Solex on 28/11/2005 21:25:30 Originally by: kieron Here is the situation in short. CCP is losing a significant amount of money due to a combination of taxes and the strength of ISK compared to other currencies. CCP has just moved offices from one area of town to the docks. The new office space is almost twice the size of the old and a much better utilization of the area. There is also potential to expand upwards, if needed. Two nations (Canada and the Isle of Man) have begun 'courting' CCP to move location. As with any offers of this nature, we are investigating them, but that is all we are doing at this time. If you're going to come to Canada, make sure it's BC. The other 90% of Canada is basically hostile to human life for half the year. EDIT - and there are many scandinavian hockey players in Vancouver - they say it reminds them of home.. Who you ask? Marcus Naslund, Daniel & Henrik Sedin, Mattias Ohlund are the most notable ones. Some links: About BC BC High Tech Info ok thats not a nice thing to say about your country and being from ontario i find that offensive also if you check on ebay you'll find most of the canadian people selling eve stuff are from BC so ya that says a lot to backup what you said Dude.. he was saying it's COLD for half of the year.. why take offence to that? (I'm from Ontario also.. don't get ur panties in a twist) _______________________________________________
Idara	Posted - 2005.11.29 03:47:00 - [87] ZOMG! Move to Canada! I'll come to every fanfest then! -------------------------------------------------------- Lance Corporal BSC Military
Smada	Posted - 2005.11.29 04:03:00 - [88] Isle of Man 4tw!
JAG Solex	Posted - 2005.11.29 06:02:00 - [89] Originally by: BM Trader Originally by: JAG Solex Edited by: JAG Solex on 28/11/2005 21:25:30 Originally by: kieron Here is the situation in short. CCP is losing a significant amount of money due to a combination of taxes and the strength of ISK compared to other currencies. CCP has just moved offices from one area of town to the docks. The new office space is almost twice the size of the old and a much better utilization of the area. There is also potential to expand upwards, if needed. Two nations (Canada and the Isle of Man) have begun 'courting' CCP to move location. As with any offers of this nature, we are investigating them, but that is all we are doing at this time. If you're going to come to Canada, make sure it's BC. The other 90% of Canada is basically hostile to human life for half the year. EDIT - and there are many scandinavian hockey players in Vancouver - they say it reminds them of home.. Who you ask? Marcus Naslund, Daniel & Henrik Sedin, Mattias Ohlund are the most notable ones. Some links: About BC BC High Tech Info ok thats not a nice thing to say about your country and being from ontario i find that offensive also if you check on ebay you'll find most of the canadian people selling eve stuff are from BC so ya that says a lot to backup what you said ummm.. yah. Being from Ontario, I guess you would find that offensive. The truth hurts don't it? I've got some nice BC bud I can sell you though.. it'll ease your pain. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [SOLST]<ASCN>
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2005.11.29 09:35:00 - [90] I say we all fly to Iceland and wear CCP t-shirts and stand outside there houses and stare into there windows from the street till they move somewhere cheaper for fanfest to be held! Just a crazy idea though -Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri

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