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Alekzander
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Posted - 2005.11.28 06:26:00 -
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Edited by: Alekzander on 28/11/2005 06:42:06
An Idea spured by Alexi below me and expanded upon here...
I like how you can see the turrets mounted on your ship, but you can't see the missile launchers, suposedly they are tubes plastered all over your ship. How about new launchers that appear as turrets on your ship and are called 'Racks' instead of 'Launchers.' The purpose behind these, is mainly, a missile system that has an extremely high rate of fire, BUT can only be reloaded in stations because all the munitons are contained outside the ship on said rack.
Also for ballance reasons these racks would have around... half of the current ammo capacity of launchers, or less, maybe even a quarter. These could take up a turret slot since they are externally mounted and give all turret boats something interesting to mount.
Example, a Seige Rack II could carry 5 torps and have a base ROF of 1/4 of the current Seige Launcher II.
Those that would argue "whats the point of a launcher you cant reload in space." Well, maybe you could, but it would take twice as long, or even longer, the DOT would be near the same, but the DPS would be greatly increased in short engagements.
Think, discus, flame(nicely plz)...
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Alexi Borizkova
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Posted - 2005.11.28 06:28:00 -
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yeah... I liked it when I told you about it in empire chat too...
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Furion35
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Posted - 2005.11.28 06:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Alexi Borizkova
yeah... I liked it when I told you about it in empire chat too...
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Alekzander
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Posted - 2005.11.28 06:41:00 -
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Ok so I expanded on it, but I told you I was gonna post it in ships and mods :P Your credit is given where due.
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Angelic Resolution
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Posted - 2005.11.28 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: Alekzander
Your credit is given where due.
You gave none at all. That's the problem.
Good idea, but loading in station would get annoying, longer loading types would be better..
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Alexi Borizkova
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Posted - 2005.11.28 07:04:00 -
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The idea behind the rack is that it is an external device, with very limited connection to the ship's resources, bar perhaps a bit of cpu and a smidgen of power. The tradeoff is that it cannot be reloaded easily, requiring outside assistance, since it lacks internal mechanics to allow this.
In theory, it would allow the fitting of over sized missiles, which is in the end likely to be abusive. I mainly bring it up as a flavor point, and something with niche applications that would be useful, thus soemthing that someone in the eve universe would likely try to market/produce.
perhaps it would be the ideal launcher type for fighters, requiring them to redock in their carrier for a reload. Or even missile drones, maybe even with defenders.
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Triscuit
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Posted - 2005.11.28 08:19:00 -
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Edited by: Triscuit on 28/11/2005 08:19:48
So basically you load a Raven with a full set of torpedo racks, then go out and kill an enemy BS of your choosing in 10 seconds flat, but the trade off is you have to dock to load more racks. I don't really see where someting like this is needed.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.11.28 09:05:00 -
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Why bicker about who came up with this idea, it's retarded.
1/4 the rof of a Siege launcher?
rofl
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vecdran
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Posted - 2005.11.28 09:12:00 -
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I think this idea is a bit unbalanced. Even so, I wish they would add graphical models for having missile launchers mounted.
However, this idea reminds me of how much I love swarms of missiles, and how slow missles fire in eve :( I would be way happier with a crapload of low damage missiles being fired than some hard hitting ones every 20 seconds, but eh, sure it would cause lag.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.11.28 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 28/11/2005 09:18:38
1/4 rof of siege... ~2k dps :)
and they said that geddon was unbalanced
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.28 09:23:00 -
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Well his idea might have balance in a toned down form on the bombers if they redid another revamp allowing them to maybe actually be used as bombers rather than cruise missile sniping. There are certain ships where this might work but their all niche ships. As a general use weapon however, no. It would be the ultimate empire 1.0 gankship :P.
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Alekzander
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Posted - 2005.11.28 18:16:00 -
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Well when I quartered the RoF AND the capacity, I quadrupled the reload time, 40 seconds to reload a rack, so the DOT is still higher, but your sitting there doing 0 damage for 40 seconds while your seige racks reload FIVE missiles. So the enemy has 40 seconds to trash you.
This is more of a hit and fade weapon, do massive damage quick and then dissapear.
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Mylar Nocturnus
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Posted - 2005.11.28 18:37:00 -
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Or maybe a Cyclic Launcher that throws a missile into the tube as soon as the first one is launched again a higher rate of fire but I would say definitly lower mag capacity. But because it could be interalized give it a 50% reload rate because of the way the missiles have to be stacked.
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CptEagle
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Posted - 2005.11.28 21:46:00 -
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Well ok If I can fire my entire cargobays ammo in 1 shot.
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Tido Maliyu
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Posted - 2005.11.28 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tido Maliyu on 28/11/2005 21:53:34
Lets get 'Super laser tube I' for launcher hardpoints too then
Personally i don't think it's gonna happen and it's gonna ruin the idea of caldari being The best missile spamming race in eve
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Tido Maliyu
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Posted - 2005.11.28 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Alekzander
Well when I quartered the RoF AND the capacity, I quadrupled the reload time, 40 seconds to reload a rack, so the DOT is still higher, but your sitting there doing 0 damage for 40 seconds while your seige racks reload FIVE missiles. So the enemy has 40 seconds to trash you.
Apoc tank 4tw!!
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2005.11.28 22:11:00 -
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Since when has an Apoc had 8 missile launchers?
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Tido Maliyu
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Posted - 2005.11.28 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sangxianc
Since when has an Apoc had 8 missile launchers?
Alekzander: "These could take up a turret slot since they are externally mounted and give all turret boats something interesting to mount."
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Dryxonedes Sae
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Posted - 2005.11.28 22:18:00 -
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Since the original idea said it would use turret slots.
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Filan
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Posted - 2005.11.28 22:50:00 -
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just imagine a Kestrel with Rapid fire launchers, Attack Helicopter Missle/rocket attack here we come!.
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Anjerrai Meloanis
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Posted - 2005.11.28 23:37:00 -
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stupid idea for a battleship, kinda good idea for stealth bombers..
uh.
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Altrex Stoppel
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Posted - 2005.11.29 00:28:00 -
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Wait so is this like a gankalauncher? Extreme burst DPS?
Confuzzled....
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Godpool
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Posted - 2005.11.29 01:32:00 -
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OK, please take note of this idea!
If there is NEVER a new missile launcher then 'rocket science' research field is forever DEAD.
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Kelhund
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Posted - 2005.11.29 02:08:00 -
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Why not just make missle launchers visible and leave em as they are balance wise? hehe
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Alekzander
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Posted - 2005.11.29 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kelhund
Why not just make missle launchers visible and leave em as they are balance wise? hehe
Even though that would be nice... more flavor in missiles is what I'm shooting for, we have an amazing two choices in weapons on missile boats, while with lasers you have pulse, beams, tachs, projectiles you have various calibers of AC's and artilery, and hybrids you have 3 each of rails and blasters. Forgive me if I leave a whole class of weapons out.
Point being, you have either, this, or that when it comes to missiles. I don't care if they give me a carpet bomb launcher that fires standards at one per second and fills the sky's with light missile spammage. ANYTHING that gives me more variety. I can fly other ratial ships all I want, but I'd like more toys to play with on my missile ships.
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VossKarr
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Posted - 2005.11.29 04:36:00 -
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Guys, let's repeat after me. Higher RoF - RATE OF FIRE - <as in how many rounds are fired per unit of time> equals BETTER DAMAGE. 
Stop confusing the hell out of people (like me) with your 1/4 RoF = 2k DPS comments, making them think "WTF?!". Avoid getting used to that retarded version of RoF in Eve yourself, or you'll start using that in RL: "look! this machine gun has high rate of fire, bah!- it sucks bad!" making yourself look rather foolish.
Again, Higher Rof = Better Damage.
Thanks! 
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.11.29 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tido Maliyu
Not to mention that an Apoc with 8 of those spamming 1 torp every 4.5 secs would WTFpwn any raven pilot or any other ship for that matter... why buy a dread when you can get a torp spamming tanked apoc?
4.5 sec? You're not taking skills and mods into account. Ravens can have an 8-10sec ROF with torps, so this rack would be more like a 2-2.5 sec ROF. 
If you staggered them it'd look like a deathstar beam moving slowly towards the target, complete with planet-pwning spam-explosions.
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