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Zappity Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 151	Posted - 2013.06.28 23:11:00 - [1] - Quote T1 frigates and faction warfare or RvB if you don't need the isk. At 3m SP I was at least one for one kill/loss. Skill, rather than just skill points, matters too. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.")
Zappity Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 154	Posted - 2013.06.29 10:10:00 - [2] - Quote Come on guys, it's not rocket science. Yes, it takes time to learn and not only skill points. But it isn't hard to have a blast with a young character. Zappity is only a few months old and she does fine in lowsec. Solo kills: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19516218 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19516220 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19516221 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19516222 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19437588 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19430934 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19430553 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19396642 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19390416 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19377926 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19376737 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19374626 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19362860 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19354119 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19336334 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19328222 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19286329 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19286002 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19285754 http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19285432 Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.")
Zappity Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 157	Posted - 2013.06.30 03:17:00 - [3] - Quote Robert Saint wrote: Paul Otichoda wrote: basiclly if you want to PvP in this game your screwed as a starting player. People say that you can pvp at any level but I call them lies. Pretty much any chance of PvP you get the enemy will be with tech 2 guns and faction ammo or in a bigger ship than you. Everyone has webifier and warp jammers so you can't escape and then you lose your ship. With luck you might keep your pod, if not you lose your expensive to get implants. Nothing is fun about this for the new player and it is all just a money sink. Its only fun for the people who have the skills and money to get the best guns and then its game over for you. THERE IS NO POINT OF PVP FOR NEW PLAYERS I've found in this forum that it is so very "As it is Stable" that these types of posts are just a lost battle. I totally agree with you though and think there needs to be a PVP intro Arena, but that got shot down by the same group that will kill yours.... "They say" and I don't even need to read the posts.... the same thing over and over. -- because they are already seasoned and think of new players as food... 1) Join RVB 2) Start small with T1 frigate 3) Find another game to play 4) Get balls and get out and die... 5) Start your own group and do it your way.....blah ... blah..... blah. Same old , same old... You've just learned that there is an established group that trolls in the forums to keep things as they are.... sort of like a Troll Mafia. But, if you leave, can I have your stuff... (stole that one from a Mafia troll). Hang on, if you want a risk free learning environment you should try the test server. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.")
Zappity Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 157	Posted - 2013.06.30 03:23:00 - [4] - Quote Knights Armament wrote: pvp for new players you have to sacrifice a few things you won't kill anyone solo Rubbish. See my earlier post. Knights Armament wrote: but you can join a fleet and leech off of them, you won't ever get any loot Sorry, this is just absolute nonsense. Knights Armament wrote: and the whole scenario is about as fun, as mining. I understand now. You've never actually done it, have you? Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.")
Zappity Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 158	Posted - 2013.06.30 04:32:00 - [5] - Quote Robert Saint wrote: Ace Uoweme wrote: Don't know about you guys, but isn't the reason why players skill up IS to fly the bigger and better ships? Running around novice plexes in T1 frigates, is like in WoW level 90s putting on level 10 gear and fighting. They'll still win due to level bonuses, just like in EvE with skill bonuses. THIS.... No, not THIS... Skill points are important but they are not the end of the story. Equally important is knowing your ship's strengths and weaknesses. This defines your engagement decisions. So a 100m SP veteran in a Rifter could easily be killed by a 5m SP player in a Condor (curse him, I hate Condors). Those same players in identical ships will, of course, be a different outcome. But you can choose who to fight. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.")
Zappity Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 158	Posted - 2013.06.30 18:30:00 - [6] - Quote Paul Otichoda wrote: Paul Otichoda wrote: I'll try to do something else, perhaps exploration Quick update on this, decided to jump into a wormhole after scanning it. Got my ship instant killed by a sleeper, then as I attempted to attack in the pod to sucided another 2 players came along and killed the drones. And then killed me for purely existing. overall rather annoying but kind of fun. Yes, wormholes are very unforgiving. Try high and lowsec exploration sites first. You will want a covert ops frigate ASAP for low. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.")
Zappity Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 158	Posted - 2013.06.30 21:43:00 - [7] - Quote Paul Otichoda wrote: Zappity wrote: Paul Otichoda wrote: Paul Otichoda wrote: I'll try to do something else, perhaps exploration Quick update on this, decided to jump into a wormhole after scanning it. Got my ship instant killed by a sleeper, then as I attempted to attack in the pod to sucided another 2 players came along and killed the drones. And then killed me for purely existing. overall rather annoying but kind of fun. Yes, wormholes are very unforgiving. Try high and lowsec exploration sites first. You will want a covert ops frigate ASAP for low. I've been trying and haven't found much. Found one relic site but didn't get anything good from it. And I've spent 2 hours running around doing nothing as I scan targets that turn into wormholes that I can't use. It takes me 20 minute to scan down one location and sometimes it just vanishes. This route just doesn't seem to give you anything at this level. Have a look at Sir Livingston's youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mc6hn3t5Dw He has some videos about the new exploration system which might be useful. I think competition in highsec is high so you might be better off in lowsec. Better rewards too apparently. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.")

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