Who says isk and assets can't be cloned into Eve II? I see a lot of people assuming this, but none bothered to ask why not. Or would you feel better to just call it "Eve" as opposed to Eve II?

Yes, theorically can be done. But if you make "EVE II" this mean you're going to redesign not only graphic, user interface and all this but also review/change core game mechanics, is not avoidable. This lead to redesign/rebuild your playerbase. Is a great risk/cost.

A company like Sony can face this risk. They can undo and trash good title, they always have resources and backup.

CCP is different, cause their main pillar is just EVE and EVE foundation is just in the long-term loyality of their playerbase. They should risk their main asset in the operation.

I agree that since Crucible EVE is on a mantainence status. I dislike to see as their new gameplay devlopement is focused on something else, other games, other platforms, I'd rather prefer to have all that focus on EVE, EVE gameplay need to be expanded, but this have to be done definining new areas and at the same time not destroying/dismantelling what is already consolidated.

Step by step.

Most game mechanics are superficial, you can already make changes with minor value changes to code, you don't need a Eve II for that. Nothing, especially not graphics, need to change. Graphics engine is ran clientside, separate from server program. The only user client running out of server would be a text only thin client, I'd imagine.

Yes, and is what they already did and doing since years.

I could see planet exploration as a pretty cool add on, but that's about it... but would only make sense if it was inside this game... like land your ship on a moon or planet, get out and explore in a space suit.

the dust thing really is just a FPS like so many others.

Check out infinity the quest for earth, theres a video that shows what it can do. Its incredible. Seamless space to planet flight, millions of clickable stars in space, no zoning / session changes. Its just an engine but its amazing.

Check out infinity the quest for earth, theres a video that shows what it can do. Its incredible. Seamless space to planet flight, millions of clickable stars in space, no zoning / session changes. Its just an engine but its amazing.

I think everyone would love seamless game world. But even more advanced and "modern" game architetture still go some kind of zoning/session change. EVE system is maybe the more consistent and less annoying. And the only one able to handle thousand of players in the same "zone".

Infinity is just that: some cool video. But doesn't exists as product, not even an early game prototype. having good ideas is easy, the hard part is transforming ideas in operative projects and products.

Btw CCP already produced an atmospherical flight demo back in 2006: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pg1dzAvL2M

EvE is a great game. But its an old game. CCP have proven its a viable game. Screw dust, vampires and develop EvE II already. A lot of people will respond that its constantly updated but its core is 10 years old, its grid system is borked, its full of legacy code thats not loosely coupled, its restricted by old design concepts that relied on old hardware and software limitations that dont exist or have been largely mitigated by new hardware software and faster net speeds.

Give us EvE II. Ill give you my firstborn.

Oh yeah and please look at the infinity quest for earth system. Procedural universe generation and planetary flight.

For games it is sequels that kill them because:
1. they take Dev time
2. they are the reason of playerbase segmentation.
3. they are rarely better than original.

This is Eve II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp6I2FaEGDM

well this thread has turned its ugly head not for a long time though I like it.

But honestly back in '03-'04 we didn't even know if this game would still be around in '06 and now look were still here 10 years later literally on eve version 18 yes there has been 18 versions of eve and god damn I wish more people were there at the beginning, If more people had been there at the start then they would appreciate this game a lot more for what it is now.

so yea screw eve 2 that one sucked I like that were on eve 18, DOWN WITH THE NAYSAYERS!!! CCP your awesome love ya keep doing what you do and make my vargur better.

yea its no where near the same game k thanks bye

Technically, this is EVE XIX

You are incorrect.

Screw dust, vampires ...

Still doesn't uses above 2GB Ram and works on a single thread when our average hardware can handle thrice this with no much effort and 2 YO GC's with techs already obsoleted by newest already cheap.

Been here since 2003. Same game. Expansions do not make it a new game. Just an old game with expansions.

I have this suspicion that the percentage of source code that makes up EVE that is retained from 2nd genesis is relatively small... We have no need for EVE II.

Do you honestly think that posting on the EVE forums that EVE isn't good enough and you want a different computer game and CCP make me a new computer game cos your old one sucks and is old and I want one that's better so you make me one that's better and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong and I've been here since the start so I know everything and I'm not bitter and and and....

doesn't make you seem like a douche?

Still doesn't uses above 2GB Ram and works on a single thread when our average hardware can handle thrice this with no much effort and 2 YO GC's with techs already obsoleted by newest already cheap.

So you're complaining that EVE is light enough on resources that you can run it on a mid range to low end PC?

Um... why?

Still doesn't uses above 2GB Ram and works on a single thread when our average hardware can handle thrice this with no much effort and 2 YO GC's with techs already obsoleted by newest already cheap.