EvE is a great game. But its an old game. CCP have proven its a viable game. Screw dust, vampires and develop EvE II already. A lot of people will respond that its constantly updated but its core is 10 years old, its grid system is borked, its full of legacy code thats not loosely coupled, its restricted by old design concepts that relied on old hardware and software limitations that dont exist or have been largely mitigated by new hardware software and faster net speeds.

Give us EvE II. Ill give you my firstborn.

Oh yeah and please look at the infinity quest for earth system. Procedural universe generation and planetary flight.

The idea of EVE II is totally stupid..

However the idea of maybe dedicating some dev time to try and rebuild the core and the foundation of the game, to be able to rip out the guts and give the game the equivalent of a triple bypass might be valid.

As long as they considered some sort of script or batched based porting software it might not be such an impoosble task.
It would be a bit equivalent to when migrating huge projects using things like quest software to batch from the old systems.

I think its even possible ccp devs would consider this a valid challenge.. They tend to like big and novel ideas.

The equivalent would be if WoW wanted to fully optimize their game, but not loose the years of valuable invested player time. Many games from that era have aged a LOT, and coming up with some method of upgrading without it being a band aid like process is def interesting. Since mmo games with such long lifespan tend to grow strong cultural and social based roots, things that make it impossible to just do it via some sequal method.

EvE is a great game. But its an old game. CCP have proven its a viable game. .

Screw dust, vampires...

...and develop EvE II already. A lot of people will respond that its constantly updated but its core is 10 years old, its grid system is borked, its full of legacy code thats not loosely coupled, its restricted by old design concepts that relied on old hardware and software limitations that dont exist or have been largely mitigated by new hardware software and faster net speeds.

Give us EvE II. Ill give you my firstborn.

Oh yeah and please look at the infinity quest for earth system. Procedural universe generation and planetary flight.

And that alone proves that they have no need of doing this. EVE is a viable game, you're right. Some of us actually like playing it.


I think you'll find that it wouldn't be in CCP's best interests to create a game that would mostly compete with their own game. Dust & World Of Darkness target different player groups and so are designed to not compete overly with EVE and thus supposedly introduce new revenue streams to CCP.


Unless they made EVE less harsh and more fluffy they wouldn't really do anything other than split their current subscribers between the two (taking current growth into account) as they would essentially be the same game or if they shut EVE1 when they opened EVE2 they would in all likelihood loose a large chunk of their playerbase. I for one and there are others, would quit playing as completely destroying everything I've done just so they can have a new version would annoy the hell out of me. I'm not starting all over again.


CCP aren't the devil or some witch, you know. I don't think they'll want your firstborn

Perhaps if they carefully rewrite the legacy code whilst simultaneously updating the game it might form the same function that you're asking for without losing playerbase or disturbing anyone's game too much. I mean, they've changed it so much over the last decade they would be within their rights to call the current iteration of EVE EVEII anyway.

So yeah, if you're after an updated version of the game rejoice, as it's already here and will continue to be updated and expanded as long as there are enough players to pay the salaries.

This idea I had not seen before; it is still a terrible idea, however.

Can't say wether or not it will be around for another 10 years but trying to create an EVE II will not extend its life.

Lol. If creating an EvE II was viable in terms of it getting enough subscribers for another 10 years to cover the costs of development, maintenance and generate a profit greater than sticking with the original than it would be a good idea.

Rewriting the whole game or even major portions of it, which is what you guys are suggesting would likely cost and take more time than creating an EvE II.

Im a programmer myself but I have never worked on systems as large and complex as EvE. However the systems I have worked on with around 20k to 100k lines of code are a nightmare to rewrite / port. I think EvE would be a hell of a lot bigger than that making it pretty much impossible or at least not worth the effort.

As for it being a stupid idea, thats a stupid statement. As for it not being as good as the original also a stupid statement. If an EvE II had seamless systems, seamless space to planetary flight, an improved interface, improved graphics, improved load handling, improved combat etc etc it could not be a bad idea. A superior product based on an already successful game is a good idea. All games have a use by date. Or do you think EvE will be around still in 10 years.

EVE devs have already proven they're willing to tackle and rewrite insurmountable amounts of code, the game will grow into EVE 2 by itself... compared to where it started you could argue it already has.

Succesfully implementing and updating an MMORPG for so long, 10 years, is against any logic; as the OP says after 2-3 years MMORPG go in a mantainence status (no major implementation) or go for a "II"

Games dont fail be because they are sequels they fail because they are bad. WoW is the most successful MMOin history. In many respects it was a better EQ II than EQ II. It improved on EQ where EQ didnt.

Games dont fail be because they are sequels they fail because they are bad. WoW is the most successful MMOin history. In many respects it was a better EQ II than EQ II. It improved on EQ where EQ didnt.

EvE is limited by its design. Its not an EvE II or EvE III at all. It still has session changes, grids, massive lag issues, compartmentalised space (zones)and a whole host of other issues that probably cannot be resolved by a rewrite of some of its code otherwise it would hsve been already. They cant even seem to change a small issue with OGB sithout a rewrite of core code.