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Velarra
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Posted - 2013.07.02 02:29:00 -
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Alright. I'll bite. As concerns the idea of another server, restarted? I'm Not so interested at all.
Equally crazy & impractical idea: a 'K-Space 2' still a part of TQ, another 3000+ solar systems, accessible by a collection of jump gates featuring huge distances far beyond jump drive range, from the current star cluster. Not unlike W-space. Mix up resources, required logistics, "security" levels of systems. Place greater emphasis on massive distances between celestials and solar systems. Borrow thematic elements from W-space & current eve flavor / dynamics.
(yes, i'm quite well aware that W-space is that way ----> ) |

Christie Anna
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.02 02:34:00 -
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Velarra wrote:Alright. I'll bite. As concerns the idea of another server, restarted? I'm Not so interested at all.
Equally crazy & impractical idea: a 'K-Space 2' still a part of TQ, another 3000+ solar systems, accessible by a collection of jump gates featuring huge distances far beyond jump drive range, from the current star cluster. Not unlike W-space. Mix up resources, required logistics, "security" levels of systems. Place greater emphasis on massive distances between celestials and solar systems. Borrow thematic elements from W-space & current eve flavor / dynamics.
(yes, i'm quite well aware that W-space is that way ----> )
We, dont, need, more, systems.
Theres still a lot to be extracted from the current ones addin moar will only imply a major wastage, besides that "KW-space" adds nothing new to the game. |

Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
794
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Posted - 2013.07.02 02:42:00 -
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"Solitude" - I get it, you want a server all for yourself.
k |

Velarra
249
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Posted - 2013.07.02 02:45:00 -
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Christie Anna wrote:Velarra wrote:Alright. I'll bite. As concerns the idea of another server, restarted? I'm Not so interested at all.
Equally crazy & impractical idea: a 'K-Space 2' still a part of TQ, another 3000+ solar systems, accessible by a collection of jump gates featuring huge distances far beyond jump drive range, from the current star cluster. Not unlike W-space. Mix up resources, required logistics, "security" levels of systems. Place greater emphasis on massive distances between celestials and solar systems. Borrow thematic elements from W-space & current eve flavor / dynamics.
(yes, i'm quite well aware that W-space is that way ----> ) We, dont, need, more, systems. Theres still a lot to be extracted from the current ones addin moar will only imply a major wastage, besides that "KW-space" adds nothing new to the game.
You're right. On the other hand, unless you're flying a freighter, in everything from a frigate to battleship (heck, even an orca) eve solar systems (with a few exceptions) feel rather small. It ends up generating the sensation that eve isn't that big. Which is weird for a 'space' game. |

Naes Mlahrend
KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance
107
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Posted - 2013.07.02 02:54:00 -
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Yea, i see that going well.
CCP = "**** YOU guys, start over!"
Everyone that's been around for over a year = **** YOU CCP, see ya."
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Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
287
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Posted - 2013.07.02 02:58:00 -
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Christie Anna wrote:Aiwha wrote:Except that goes against everything EVE stands for.
One server. Just make it bigger. EVE doesnt needs to get bigger is fine as it is. But an alternate timeline in another server with some fancy features would be awesome for all the people that didnt started out in 2003 and never saw how it was... In the beginning.
That's pretty much the same thing I said, and you told me I missed the point. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |

Andrea Griffin
494
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Posted - 2013.07.02 03:06:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:One server. Just make it bigger. I agree. I'd like to see three things done to make Eve larger:
1. Add more k-space systems, mostly low-sec and NPC null-sec. High sec is fine, afaic. 2. Add more w-space systems, systems without moons so that they cannot be colonized. 3. Modify cyno jumping / titan bridging to drastically reduce power projection.
1 and 2 will make Eve larger by adding more space; 2 will help keep some sense of exploration and mystery in w-space that is lacking today due to heavy colonization.
3 will make Eve larger by helping to control the obscene power projection that cynos provide. You move an entire fleet across Eve, from one side to the other, in 30 minutes. Making it easy for a large force to go anywhere that quickly makes Eve feel very small indeed. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |

Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
350
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Posted - 2013.07.02 03:49:00 -
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Litair wrote:
I quote "no fancy faction ships" from your original post. That ties into the part about "and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp."
So to cut it out in paper.. I turned down your overall idea, but thought I'd be casually friendly and agree on some of the valid points you mentioned.
I did not anticipate this awkward hateful response, otherwise I would of course just have said "nope!"
/thread
Its an obvious forum troll alt, why are you taking bait
And for you OP, 0/10, obvious troll from your replies here. OP is mad because for obvious reasons, OP has no friends. OP is trying to show epeen through forum alt, you're taking bait and now OP can feel superior to you |

Imperishable
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.02 04:04:00 -
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I would play on 2005 or 2007 server. With nano-ships |

Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
183
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Posted - 2013.07.02 04:12:00 -
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I would restart with everyone.. that would be really interesting.
However I love my shiny ships fml |

Ayuren Aakiwa
An Eye For An Eye AN EYE F0R AN EYE
82
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Posted - 2013.07.02 04:13:00 -
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This is bad idea and you should feel bad pew pew 24/7 |

ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
1376
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Posted - 2013.07.02 04:15:00 -
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Christie Anna wrote:just veldspar and pain. So mining only?
You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |

Khira Kitamatsu
664
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Posted - 2013.07.02 04:15:00 -
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Of all the ideals put forth ever in the history of EVE - this is the worst. Ponies!-á We need more ponies! |

Joan Greywind
Temnava Legion No Holes Barred
32
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Posted - 2013.07.02 04:56:00 -
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Guess I have to do another one of these:
I have consulted my local EVE doctor, and I am afraid to let you know that you are down with bitter new player syndrome, or better known as "I play EVE for a while now, but still suck at it, so I blame it on stupid reasons" syndrome. Symptoms include calling this game pay to win, mining ice with a 7 year old character, or dying in a **** fit cruiser to a zealot and whining about how unfair EVE is.
Just a few points:
1- Old player characters can do more things, but it isn't necessary that they can do a particular thing better than you. If you pick a specific thing you want to do, you can become as efficient at it as the old player in a relatively short amount of time. You messing up your plan or skilling into mining ships is your fault and your problem (took an assumption here).
2- Getting iskies in EVE is as easy for you as it is for the old player. You can trade, you can mission, you can do incrusions, you can rat, you can mine and many more other things as efficiently as any old player, if you have the skills (not to be confused with character skills in EVE) and knowledge to do so. (Some of them require a minimal amount of skills, HAI mining). For instance with a 10m sp logi character , you can make 150m isk/h in incursions.
3- Because of the in game currency and the lovely character bazaar, you can actually buy high skilled characters, if you are proficient at making ISK in the game (which as said doesn't require a massive amount of skillpoints if you know what you are doing).
4- And faction ships aren't bad and they are not imbalanced, some of the people that are actually good at this game (be it pvp or making iskies) need something more than ****** drakes to fly, after all they earned it, they deserve it. They add a small advantage for a huge increase in cost, which is fair.
And I don't know if you made the argument about restarting the server just as a spark to discuss things, or as something you really want. Either way it sux. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3757
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Posted - 2013.07.02 05:09:00 -
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Nyancat Audeles wrote:Litair wrote:I quote "no fancy faction ships" from your original post. That ties into the part about "and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp."
So to cut it out in paper.. I turned down your overall idea, but thought I'd be casually friendly and agree on some of the valid points you mentioned.
I did not anticipate this awkward hateful response, otherwise I would of course just have said "nope!" Its an obvious forum troll alt, why are you taking bait And for you OP, 0/10, obvious troll from your replies here. OP is mad because for obvious reasons, OP has no friends. OP is trying to show epeen through forum alt, you're taking bait and now OP can feel superior to you Good trolls look like tears I guess. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |

Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
287
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Posted - 2013.07.02 05:54:00 -
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Khira Kitamatsu wrote:Of all the ideals put forth ever in the history of EVE - this is the worst.
No.... PLEX-For-SP is the worst. Having a second server that starts all over again from Day 1, would be kind of awesome, and let "ancient ones" like me and the constant-subbed '03 players relive the "glory days", and give noobs a taste of what it was like back then. Plus it would be the best way to introduce Jove as a player race. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
342
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Posted - 2013.07.02 05:59:00 -
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Christie Anna wrote:Yeah, you got it right.
EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain.
Discuss.
I love pristine servers (advocate for them in WoW).
But I've played WoW for years, EvE is still a fresh and interesting game to me as is. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Regan Rotineque
Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober
134
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:07:00 -
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Ayuren Aakiwa wrote:This is bad idea and you should feel bad
^
This
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
2398
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:09:00 -
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Christie Anna wrote:Aiwha wrote:Except that goes against everything EVE stands for.
One server. Just make it bigger. EVE doesnt needs to get bigger is fine as it is.
Eve doesn't need to restart, as you so eloquently put it.. its fine as it is. Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |

Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
6959
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:15:00 -
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smoking kills your brain kk
bend over You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |

Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
276
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:34:00 -
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One of the great things about Eve is that if I ever bump into anothe Eve player then I know that his character is 'out there' waiting for me.
If I ran into an EQ or WoW player (for example) the first question would be "Which server are you on?" The moment that they mention that they're not on my server then the whole conversation dries up. Any tales that we had of our experiences would become irrelevant and uninteresting to the other
I used to subscribe to EON and I remember getting a beerrmat with my copy one day. The beerrmat advertised a Corp and it felt good to know that Out There in New Eden there was that Corp. We talk to other players and hear of great deeds being done in the game. It would be in Our Game.
The whole point of Eve is that one person's actions can influence the game for evreryone else. Having more than one server would kill that magic.
So, I vote No. So much so that I may walk away from the game if this ever happened. GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper |

Mark Androcius
154
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:14:00 -
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I don't really like the idea, but, it did get me thinking.
We could get a new eve gate, one that is permanent and leads to a new universe ( much like or even same as the old eve gate that lead humans from earth to new Eden ).
It could be a universe that is entirely separate from our current universe, yet you can get in and out of it any time you want.
Why would i think this is a good idea? Well, it will allow for more systems to be added to eve, without expanding the existing map, you basically just add a second map. New sov to grab ( while at the same time, it is extremely hard to maintain sov in both universes ), new trade-hubs to form, new enemies to shoot, new mission to fulfill etc etc etc.
I know many people would like the idea of exploring new space in the way the Earthlings did, back when New Eden was just discovered.
The gate would of course be positioned in the center of both universes. And on the other side ( the New Haven side ) it only has about 20 high-sec systems, controlled by a group of npc corporations that do not affiliate with any of the 4 current factions, yet maintain a good relationship with them all.
It will have no low-sec at all, but rather LOT'S and LOT'S of null sec to claim.
Maybe we could even introduce new minerals and PI materials/moon materials, that are only found there, while at the same time NOT having some of the minerals and materials found in New Eden, this would cause the 2 to become dependent on each-other over time, as more and more modules and ships start requiring materials from both universes. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
539
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:16:00 -
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The OPs idea was so silly it almost made my head explode. Good thing I was wearing a ball cap when I read it. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
342
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:26:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:If I ran into an EQ or WoW player (for example) the first question would be "Which server are you on?" The moment that they mention that they're not on my server then the whole conversation dries up. Any tales that we had of our experiences would become irrelevant and uninteresting to the other
Cross Realm Zone to Get New Players Excited Equals...
My WoW realm isn't the best in the world in raiding and PvP, but it's home. Remove home, there's little purpose in playing. It's why server merging is so painful, just like what CRZ did in destroying realm communities.
THINK about the consequences first, as the outcomes aren't fun. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
1020
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:35:00 -
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Are you going to pay for it? Are you on the CSM? Is it going to further nullsec powerblocs agendas?
What is that you say?
No?
Guess what will never happen?
Sharding EVE! I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner. Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |

DSpite Culhach
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
122
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:38:00 -
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I would personally not see the point of moving there.
Alliances like Test and Goons and Razor (etc) would weigh the pro/cons of such a system, then either totally ignore the new server, or move there on mass.
Both those options are bad.
If the "new server" did not start a "custom" environment, it would be like someone deleting my multiplayer Minecraft world I had been running for ten years and saying "hey, it will be fun to start again".
Pretty sure no judge would hold me guilty over stabbing that guy to death with a spork. I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships. I add bits to this when I'm bored https://www.dropbox.com/s/foijsawsqolarom/EVE_Online.html |

ZeeWolf Novus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2013.07.02 08:45:00 -
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Christie Anna wrote:
......for all the people that didnt started out in 2003 and never saw how it was... In the beginning.
But it still wouldn't be 'how it was', unless they had the bare minimum of T2 modules available, and the endgame was getting into a Battleship or an Interceptor.
No T2 or T3 ships, aside from interceptors, no capitals.
Just like the good old days. |

Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
159
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Posted - 2013.07.02 08:52:00 -
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Christie Anna wrote:Yeah, you got it right.
EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain.
Discuss.
So in the interest of keeping it fresh they should put the game back to the start every 3 months.
Not much point starting all over as it will just end up the same or similar later.
Plus people have already made connections with others in-game and you won't be able to dissolve those in order to start afresh.
So all in all it would be a fairly pointless exercise.
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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
1209
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Posted - 2013.07.02 08:53:00 -
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Christie Anna wrote:Yeah, you got it right.
EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain.
Discuss.
What is wrong with you ? This is not UO, not a shard where "oh no, so many people way more advanced than me, I want all to start again, equal" Dumbest idea I have seen in a long time, although I have seen this same comment over a year ago. As bad as this idea is, it belongs in the Ideas forum, not in GD. I'd prefer to see it burn in a dustbin though.
Utter rubbish.
Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact |

0Lona 0ltor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2013.07.02 08:54:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Except that goes against everything EVE stands for.
One server. Just make it bigger.
Yeah uhm Serenity |
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