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Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 00:51:00 - [1] - Quote Yeah, you got it right. EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain. Discuss.
Litair Donchian Stripes 148	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:03:00 - [2] - Quote I do like the idea of no fancy faction ships. Stupid twinks.. but.. as the skill system is in EVE, I don't really want to spend years training it all up again :p Besides, the economy would probably become quite funky on a new server like that. I just feel like the game is maybe a bit too complicated to just throw up another server like that.
Inokuma Yawara University of Caille Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:05:00 - [3] - Quote Litair wrote: I do like the idea of no fancy faction ships. Stupid twinks.. but.. as the skill system is in EVE, I don't really want to spend years training it all up again :p Besides, the economy would probably become quite funky on a new server like that. I just feel like the game is maybe a bit too complicated to just throw up another server like that. I've only been playing a little over a month, and I can already feel the pain of starting over.
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:06:00 - [4] - Quote Litair wrote: I do like the idea of no fancy faction ships. Stupid twinks.. but.. as the skill system is in EVE, I don't really want to spend years training it all up again :p Besides, the economy would probably become quite funky on a new server like that. I just feel like the game is maybe a bit too complicated to just throw up another server like that. Tranquility started at some point so if it can be done once, it can be done twice.
Aiwha Infinite Point Nulli Secunda 501	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:10:00 - [5] - Quote Except that goes against everything EVE stands for. One server. Just make it bigger. Lock up your staions and hide your daughters. Nulli incoming
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:12:00 - [6] - Quote Aiwha wrote: Except that goes against everything EVE stands for. One server. Just make it bigger. EVE doesnt needs to get bigger is fine as it is. But an alternate timeline in another server with some fancy features would be awesome for all the people that didnt started out in 2003 and never saw how it was... In the beginning.
Litair Donchian Stripes 148	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:18:00 - [7] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Aiwha wrote: Except that goes against everything EVE stands for. One server. Just make it bigger. EVE doesnt needs to get bigger is fine as it is. But an alternate timeline in another server with some fancy features would be awesome for all the people that didnt started out in 2003 and never saw how it was... In the beginning. The beginning was crude and ugly as hell, and really quite a simple and empty game with very few features compared to what there is now :P you should be glad you didn't experience it.. But I know what you're saying, it sucks getting steamrolled by old vets who got all the skills and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp. In all honesty though, I really don't think CCP would ever consider making a new server, I just don't see it happening.
Inokuma Yawara University of Caille Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:23:00 - [8] - Quote I see your point, but then that would mean that very concept of EVE Online (getting dumped blind into an ever evolving situation) will get diluted. Also, like Aiwha said, the idea behind EVE is that it's ONE big sandbox where anything goes. I would like to see the galaxy get much bigger. There are too many people and not enough star systems. The galaxy has more stars than there are people, in real life. It should be that way in game too.
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:24:00 - [9] - Quote Litair wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Aiwha wrote: Except that goes against everything EVE stands for. One server. Just make it bigger. EVE doesnt needs to get bigger is fine as it is. But an alternate timeline in another server with some fancy features would be awesome for all the people that didnt started out in 2003 and never saw how it was... In the beginning. The beginning was crude and ugly as hell, and really quite a simple and empty game with very few features compared to what there is now :P you should be glad you didn't experience it.. But I know what you're saying, it sucks getting steamrolled by old vets who got all the skills and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp. In all honesty though, I really don't think CCP would ever consider making a new server, I just don't see it happening. Steamwhat? EVE is not about skillpoints, we all know that, theres people that has been playin for half a decade and still suck and players with less than one year making the big numbers, the game-¦s like that 2007 'vets' ragequitin cus his jf got ganked in hi-sec SPs wont prevent u from bein terrible. I-¦d just love to log in one day and see no implants, no blueballs, no ****, day 0.
Ammzi Boob Heads Test Alliance Please Ignore 1372	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:24:00 - [10] - Quote How about. yep, you guessed right. No. quote CCP Spitfire "Hello Im Blue,"
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:26:00 - [11] - Quote Inokuma Yawara wrote: I see your point, but then that would mean that very concept of EVE Online (getting dumped blind into an ever evolving situation) will get diluted. Also, like Aiwha said, the idea behind EVE is that it's ONE big sandbox where anything goes. I would like to see the galaxy get much bigger. There are too many people and not enough star systems. The galaxy has more stars than there are people, in real life. It should be that way in game too. A: You-¦ll get dumped blinder than ever into an ever evolvin situation, again, that wouldnt change. B: Open dotlan, select jumps/24hrs, check a few regions and come back and tell me we need more systems, c-¦mon, lie to me.
Litair Donchian Stripes 148	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:28:00 - [12] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Litair wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Aiwha wrote: Except that goes against everything EVE stands for. One server. Just make it bigger. EVE doesnt needs to get bigger is fine as it is. But an alternate timeline in another server with some fancy features would be awesome for all the people that didnt started out in 2003 and never saw how it was... In the beginning. The beginning was crude and ugly as hell, and really quite a simple and empty game with very few features compared to what there is now :P you should be glad you didn't experience it.. But I know what you're saying, it sucks getting steamrolled by old vets who got all the skills and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp. In all honesty though, I really don't think CCP would ever consider making a new server, I just don't see it happening. Steamwhat? EVE is not about skillpoints, we all know that, theres people that has been playin for half a decade and still suck and players with less than one year making the big numbers, the game-¦s like that 2007 'vets' ragequitin cus his jf got ganked in hi-sec SPs wont prevent u from bein terrible. I-¦d just love to log in one day and see no implants, no blueballs, no ****, day 0. Eh I would argue that skillpoints (placed in the right skills obviously) matter a ton more than a few random implants, but you missed the most important part which is the money they've built up to buy fancy high meta modules. But whatever, was just trying to back you up a bit bro :p
Steve Ronuken Fuzzwork Enterprises 1597	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:29:00 - [13] - Quote Except alliances would reform almost immediately and people would strike out for Null, to get set up there. The Community born would stick together. (nothing wrong with that. Just to be clear) Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:33:00 - [14] - Quote Litair wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Litair wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Aiwha wrote: Except that goes against everything EVE stands for. One server. Just make it bigger. EVE doesnt needs to get bigger is fine as it is. But an alternate timeline in another server with some fancy features would be awesome for all the people that didnt started out in 2003 and never saw how it was... In the beginning. The beginning was crude and ugly as hell, and really quite a simple and empty game with very few features compared to what there is now :P you should be glad you didn't experience it.. But I know what you're saying, it sucks getting steamrolled by old vets who got all the skills and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp. In all honesty though, I really don't think CCP would ever consider making a new server, I just don't see it happening. Steamwhat? EVE is not about skillpoints, we all know that, theres people that has been playin for half a decade and still suck and players with less than one year making the big numbers, the game-¦s like that 2007 'vets' ragequitin cus his jf got ganked in hi-sec SPs wont prevent u from bein terrible. I-¦d just love to log in one day and see no implants, no blueballs, no ****, day 0. Eh I would argue that skillpoints (placed in the right skills obviously) matter a ton more than a few random implants, but you missed the most important part which is the money they've built up to buy fancy high meta modules. But whatever, was just trying to back you up a bit bro :p Back me up? assuming that im a poor helpless noob rantin about being roflstomped by guys with 100M SPs, hell yeah. And obviously SPs > Implants, but in the end is all about the money, the money and the easy way that comes with it, I want it gone, so badly.
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:35:00 - [15] - Quote Steve Ronuken wrote: Except alliances would reform almost immediately and people would strike out for Null, to get set up there. The Community born would stick together. (nothing wrong with that. Just to be clear) Why you would strike out for null? To kill 1M bounty rats in a rifter? to mine high-end minerals you dont have the skills to produce anything with? Thats the main thing, we dont know what will happen, or what will come out on top, cus when it all started it was a whole different game, and Tranquilty is made over the years and over the changes but this will be a whole different story without em.
Aiwha Infinite Point Nulli Secunda 501	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:47:00 - [16] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Aiwha wrote: Except that goes against everything EVE stands for. One server. Just make it bigger. EVE doesnt needs to get bigger is fine as it is. But an alternate timeline in another server with some fancy features would be awesome for all the people that didnt started out in 2003 and never saw how it was... In the beginning. We go back to pre Dominion POS spamming for SOV over my dead bodies. Lock up your staions and hide your daughters. Nulli incoming
Litair Donchian Stripes 148	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:47:00 - [17] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Litair wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Litair wrote: The beginning was crude and ugly as hell, and really quite a simple and empty game with very few features compared to what there is now :P you should be glad you didn't experience it.. But I know what you're saying, it sucks getting steamrolled by old vets who got all the skills and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp. In all honesty though, I really don't think CCP would ever consider making a new server, I just don't see it happening. Steamwhat? EVE is not about skillpoints, we all know that, theres people that has been playin for half a decade and still suck and players with less than one year making the big numbers, the game-¦s like that 2007 'vets' ragequitin cus his jf got ganked in hi-sec SPs wont prevent u from bein terrible. I-¦d just love to log in one day and see no implants, no blueballs, no ****, day 0. Eh I would argue that skillpoints (placed in the right skills obviously) matter a ton more than a few random implants, but you missed the most important part which is the money they've built up to buy fancy high meta modules. But whatever, was just trying to back you up a bit bro :p Back me up? assuming that im a poor helpless noob rantin about being roflstomped by guys with 100M SPs, hell yeah. And obviously SPs > Implants, but in the end is all about the money, the money and the easy way that comes with it, I want it gone, so badly. Assuming that you weren't a strangely aggressive and arrogant freak, and wanted to discuss the subject at hand rather than hate on people. Apparently I was wrong in that assessment. Oh well :O
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:51:00 - [18] - Quote Aiwha wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Aiwha wrote: Except that goes against everything EVE stands for. One server. Just make it bigger. EVE doesnt needs to get bigger is fine as it is. But an alternate timeline in another server with some fancy features would be awesome for all the people that didnt started out in 2003 and never saw how it was... In the beginning. We go back to pre Dominion POS spamming for SOV over my dead bodies. Thing is making it with the current expo,
Jimmy Morane Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's 74	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:53:00 - [19] - Quote *Mintchip! You're back!
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:53:00 - [20] - Quote Litair wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Litair wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Litair wrote: The beginning was crude and ugly as hell, and really quite a simple and empty game with very few features compared to what there is now :P you should be glad you didn't experience it.. But I know what you're saying, it sucks getting steamrolled by old vets who got all the skills and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp. In all honesty though, I really don't think CCP would ever consider making a new server, I just don't see it happening. Steamwhat? EVE is not about skillpoints, we all know that, theres people that has been playin for half a decade and still suck and players with less than one year making the big numbers, the game-¦s like that 2007 'vets' ragequitin cus his jf got ganked in hi-sec SPs wont prevent u from bein terrible. I-¦d just love to log in one day and see no implants, no blueballs, no ****, day 0. Eh I would argue that skillpoints (placed in the right skills obviously) matter a ton more than a few random implants, but you missed the most important part which is the money they've built up to buy fancy high meta modules. But whatever, was just trying to back you up a bit bro :p Back me up? assuming that im a poor helpless noob rantin about being roflstomped by guys with 100M SPs, hell yeah. And obviously SPs > Implants, but in the end is all about the money, the money and the easy way that comes with it, I want it gone, so badly. Assuming that you weren't a strangely aggressive and arrogant freak, and wanted to discuss the subject at hand rather than hate on people. Apparently I was wrong in that assessment. Oh well :O Aggressive? dont get me wrong, but im not the one here making blind assumptions over other players game experience, Im just discussin the subject and no, I dont hate you, you dont deserve my hate bro.
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:54:00 - [21] - Quote Jimmy Morane wrote: *Mintchip! You're back! :D
Jarod Garamonde Action Bastards 287	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:55:00 - [22] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Yeah, you got it right. EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain. Discuss. And Jove as a player race! And Jovian ships! And the original pod! Oh, my gods, to start back in '03, again.... features released on the same schedule as they were back in the "good ol days".... I would LOVE CCP FOREVER if they gave us the chance to relive that! YOU, ser, win the internet, for today. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II
Jarod Garamonde Action Bastards 287	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:57:00 - [23] - Quote I would call the new server "Regeneration", or "Recapitualation" instead of "solitude" though.... "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:59:00 - [24] - Quote Jarod Garamonde wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Yeah, you got it right. EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain. Discuss. And Jove as a player race! And Jovian ships! And the original pod! Oh, my gods, to start back in '03, again.... features released on the same schedule as they were back in the "good ol days".... I would LOVE CCP FOREVER if they gave us the chance to relive that! YOU, ser, win the internet, for today. YOU, ser, didnt get the point. New server, 0 day, current expansion, please read the thread before low-level trolling
Litair Donchian Stripes 148	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:03:00 - [25] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Litair wrote: [quote=Christie Anna] Assuming that you weren't a strangely aggressive and arrogant freak, and wanted to discuss the subject at hand rather than hate on people. Apparently I was wrong in that assessment. Oh well :O Aggressive? dont get me wrong, but im not the one here making blind assumptions over other players game experience, Im just discussin the subject and no, I dont hate you, you dont deserve my hate bro. "assuming that im a poor helpless noob rantin about being roflstomped by guys with 100M SPs, hell yeah." <--- hateful sarcastic assumption that I would have implied that. I never suggested that, I never meant that, you may apologize for snapping at me.
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:05:00 - [26] - Quote Litair wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Litair wrote: [quote=Christie Anna] Assuming that you weren't a strangely aggressive and arrogant freak, and wanted to discuss the subject at hand rather than hate on people. Apparently I was wrong in that assessment. Oh well :O Aggressive? dont get me wrong, but im not the one here making blind assumptions over other players game experience, Im just discussin the subject and no, I dont hate you, you dont deserve my hate bro. "assuming that im a poor helpless noob rantin about being roflstomped by guys with 100M SPs, hell yeah." <--- hateful sarcastic assumption that I would have implied that. I never suggested that, I never meant that, you may apologize for snapping at me. w00t? "But I know what you're saying, it sucks getting steamrolled by old vets who got all the skills and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp."
Litair Donchian Stripes 148	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:16:00 - [27] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Litair wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Litair wrote: [quote=Christie Anna] Assuming that you weren't a strangely aggressive and arrogant freak, and wanted to discuss the subject at hand rather than hate on people. Apparently I was wrong in that assessment. Oh well :O Aggressive? dont get me wrong, but im not the one here making blind assumptions over other players game experience, Im just discussin the subject and no, I dont hate you, you dont deserve my hate bro. "assuming that im a poor helpless noob rantin about being roflstomped by guys with 100M SPs, hell yeah." <--- hateful sarcastic assumption that I would have implied that. I never suggested that, I never meant that, you may apologize for snapping at me. w00t? "But I know what you're saying, it sucks getting steamrolled by old vets who got all the skills and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp." I quote "no fancy faction ships" from your original post. That ties into the part about "and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp." So to cut it out in paper.. I turned down your overall idea, but thought I'd be casually friendly and agree on some of the valid points you mentioned. I did not anticipate this awkward hateful response, otherwise I would of course just have said "nope!" /thread
Jarod Garamonde Action Bastards 287	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:17:00 - [28] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Jarod Garamonde wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Yeah, you got it right. EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain. Discuss. And Jove as a player race! And Jovian ships! And the original pod! Oh, my gods, to start back in '03, again.... features released on the same schedule as they were back in the "good ol days".... I would LOVE CCP FOREVER if they gave us the chance to relive that! YOU, ser, win the internet, for today. YOU, ser, didnt get the point. New server, 0 day, current expansion, please read the thread before low-level trolling That was not low-level trolling.... it was sidebar discussion. Big difference. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:28:00 - [29] - Quote Litair wrote: I quote "no fancy faction ships" from your original post. That ties into the part about "and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp." So to cut it out in paper.. I turned down your overall idea, but thought I'd be casually friendly and agree on some of the valid points you mentioned. I did not anticipate this awkward hateful response, otherwise I would of course just have said "nope!" /thread Pro tip: dont categorize players so lightly in the future and try not to give yourself so much importance, this is not about you. But woteva, if it makes you happy and let us end this sterile conversation and get back on topic its ok for me, have a nice day sirs.
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:29:00 - [30] - Quote Jarod Garamonde wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Jarod Garamonde wrote: Christie Anna wrote: Yeah, you got it right. EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain. Discuss. And Jove as a player race! And Jovian ships! And the original pod! Oh, my gods, to start back in '03, again.... features released on the same schedule as they were back in the "good ol days".... I would LOVE CCP FOREVER if they gave us the chance to relive that! YOU, ser, win the internet, for today. YOU, ser, didnt get the point. New server, 0 day, current expansion, please read the thread before low-level trolling That was not low-level trolling.... it was sidebar discussion. Big difference. Sidebar discu-low-level-trollission in that case.
Velarra 249	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:29:00 - [31] - Quote Alright. I'll bite. As concerns the idea of another server, restarted? I'm Not so interested at all. Equally crazy & impractical idea: a 'K-Space 2' still a part of TQ, another 3000+ solar systems, accessible by a collection of jump gates featuring huge distances far beyond jump drive range, from the current star cluster. Not unlike W-space. Mix up resources, required logistics, "security" levels of systems. Place greater emphasis on massive distances between celestials and solar systems. Borrow thematic elements from W-space & current eve flavor / dynamics. (yes, i'm quite well aware that W-space is that way ----> )
Christie Anna Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:34:00 - [32] - Quote Velarra wrote: Alright. I'll bite. As concerns the idea of another server, restarted? I'm Not so interested at all. Equally crazy & impractical idea: a 'K-Space 2' still a part of TQ, another 3000+ solar systems, accessible by a collection of jump gates featuring huge distances far beyond jump drive range, from the current star cluster. Not unlike W-space. Mix up resources, required logistics, "security" levels of systems. Place greater emphasis on massive distances between celestials and solar systems. Borrow thematic elements from W-space & current eve flavor / dynamics. (yes, i'm quite well aware that W-space is that way ----> ) We, dont, need, more, systems. Theres still a lot to be extracted from the current ones addin moar will only imply a major wastage, besides that "KW-space" adds nothing new to the game.
Ifly Uwalk Empire Tax Collection Agency 794	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:42:00 - [33] - Quote "Solitude" - I get it, you want a server all for yourself. k
Velarra 249	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:45:00 - [34] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Velarra wrote: Alright. I'll bite. As concerns the idea of another server, restarted? I'm Not so interested at all. Equally crazy & impractical idea: a 'K-Space 2' still a part of TQ, another 3000+ solar systems, accessible by a collection of jump gates featuring huge distances far beyond jump drive range, from the current star cluster. Not unlike W-space. Mix up resources, required logistics, "security" levels of systems. Place greater emphasis on massive distances between celestials and solar systems. Borrow thematic elements from W-space & current eve flavor / dynamics. (yes, i'm quite well aware that W-space is that way ----> ) We, dont, need, more, systems. Theres still a lot to be extracted from the current ones addin moar will only imply a major wastage, besides that "KW-space" adds nothing new to the game. You're right. On the other hand, unless you're flying a freighter, in everything from a frigate to battleship (heck, even an orca) eve solar systems (with a few exceptions) feel rather small. It ends up generating the sensation that eve isn't that big. Which is weird for a 'space' game.
Naes Mlahrend KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance 107	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:54:00 - [35] - Quote Yea, i see that going well. CCP = "** YOU guys, start over!" Everyone that's been around for over a year = ** YOU CCP, see ya."
Jarod Garamonde Action Bastards 287	Posted - 2013.07.02 02:58:00 - [36] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Aiwha wrote: Except that goes against everything EVE stands for. One server. Just make it bigger. EVE doesnt needs to get bigger is fine as it is. But an alternate timeline in another server with some fancy features would be awesome for all the people that didnt started out in 2003 and never saw how it was... In the beginning. That's pretty much the same thing I said, and you told me I missed the point. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II
Andrea Griffin 494	Posted - 2013.07.02 03:06:00 - [37] - Quote Aiwha wrote: One server. Just make it bigger. I agree. I'd like to see three things done to make Eve larger: 1. Add more k-space systems, mostly low-sec and NPC null-sec. High sec is fine, afaic. 2. Add more w-space systems, systems without moons so that they cannot be colonized. 3. Modify cyno jumping / titan bridging to drastically reduce power projection. 1 and 2 will make Eve larger by adding more space; 2 will help keep some sense of exploration and mystery in w-space that is lacking today due to heavy colonization. 3 will make Eve larger by helping to control the obscene power projection that cynos provide. You move an entire fleet across Eve, from one side to the other, in 30 minutes. Making it easy for a large force to go anywhere that quickly makes Eve feel very small indeed. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
Nyancat Audeles Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 350	Posted - 2013.07.02 03:49:00 - [38] - Quote Litair wrote: I quote "no fancy faction ships" from your original post. That ties into the part about "and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp." So to cut it out in paper.. I turned down your overall idea, but thought I'd be casually friendly and agree on some of the valid points you mentioned. I did not anticipate this awkward hateful response, otherwise I would of course just have said "nope!" /thread Its an obvious forum troll alt, why are you taking bait And for you OP, 0/10, obvious troll from your replies here. OP is mad because for obvious reasons, OP has no friends. OP is trying to show epeen through forum alt, you're taking bait and now OP can feel superior to you
Imperishable Caldari Provisions Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.07.02 04:04:00 - [39] - Quote I would play on 2005 or 2007 server. With nano-ships
Gritz1 Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 183	Posted - 2013.07.02 04:12:00 - [40] - Quote I would restart with everyone.. that would be really interesting. However I love my shiny ships fml
Ayuren Aakiwa An Eye For An Eye AN EYE F0R AN EYE 82	Posted - 2013.07.02 04:13:00 - [41] - Quote This is bad idea and you should feel bad pew pew 24/7
ACE McFACE Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve 1376	Posted - 2013.07.02 04:15:00 - [42] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: just veldspar and pain. So mining only? You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument!
Khira Kitamatsu 664	Posted - 2013.07.02 04:15:00 - [43] - Quote Of all the ideals put forth ever in the history of EVE - this is the worst. Ponies!-á We need more ponies!
Joan Greywind Temnava Legion No Holes Barred 32	Posted - 2013.07.02 04:56:00 - [44] - Quote Guess I have to do another one of these: I have consulted my local EVE doctor, and I am afraid to let you know that you are down with bitter new player syndrome, or better known as "I play EVE for a while now, but still suck at it, so I blame it on stupid reasons" syndrome. Symptoms include calling this game pay to win, mining ice with a 7 year old character, or dying in a ** fit cruiser to a zealot and whining about how unfair EVE is. Just a few points: 1- Old player characters can do more things, but it isn't necessary that they can do a particular thing better than you. If you pick a specific thing you want to do, you can become as efficient at it as the old player in a relatively short amount of time. You messing up your plan or skilling into mining ships is your fault and your problem (took an assumption here). 2- Getting iskies in EVE is as easy for you as it is for the old player. You can trade, you can mission, you can do incrusions, you can rat, you can mine and many more other things as efficiently as any old player, if you have the skills (not to be confused with character skills in EVE) and knowledge to do so. (Some of them require a minimal amount of skills, HAI mining). For instance with a 10m sp logi character , you can make 150m isk/h in incursions. 3- Because of the in game currency and the lovely character bazaar, you can actually buy high skilled characters, if you are proficient at making ISK in the game (which as said doesn't require a massive amount of skillpoints if you know what you are doing). 4- And faction ships aren't bad and they are not imbalanced, some of the people that are actually good at this game (be it pvp or making iskies) need something more than **** drakes to fly, after all they earned it, they deserve it. They add a small advantage for a huge increase in cost, which is fair. And I don't know if you made the argument about restarting the server just as a spark to discuss things, or as something you really want. Either way it sux.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3757	Posted - 2013.07.02 05:09:00 - [45] - Quote Nyancat Audeles wrote: Litair wrote: I quote "no fancy faction ships" from your original post. That ties into the part about "and endless amounts of money to buy modules worth a hundred million isk on a t1 frigate for random pvp." So to cut it out in paper.. I turned down your overall idea, but thought I'd be casually friendly and agree on some of the valid points you mentioned. I did not anticipate this awkward hateful response, otherwise I would of course just have said "nope!" Its an obvious forum troll alt, why are you taking bait And for you OP, 0/10, obvious troll from your replies here. OP is mad because for obvious reasons, OP has no friends. OP is trying to show epeen through forum alt, you're taking bait and now OP can feel superior to you Good trolls look like tears I guess. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Jarod Garamonde Action Bastards 287	Posted - 2013.07.02 05:54:00 - [46] - Quote Khira Kitamatsu wrote: Of all the ideals put forth ever in the history of EVE - this is the worst. No.... PLEX-For-SP is the worst. Having a second server that starts all over again from Day 1, would be kind of awesome, and let "ancient ones" like me and the constant-subbed '03 players relive the "glory days", and give noobs a taste of what it was like back then. Plus it would be the best way to introduce Jove as a player race. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 342	Posted - 2013.07.02 05:59:00 - [47] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Yeah, you got it right. EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain. Discuss. I love pristine servers (advocate for them in WoW). But I've played WoW for years, EvE is still a fresh and interesting game to me as is. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Regan Rotineque Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober 134	Posted - 2013.07.02 06:07:00 - [48] - Quote Ayuren Aakiwa wrote: This is bad idea and you should feel bad ^ This
Asuka Solo Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises 2398	Posted - 2013.07.02 06:09:00 - [49] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Aiwha wrote: Except that goes against everything EVE stands for. One server. Just make it bigger. EVE doesnt needs to get bigger is fine as it is. Eve doesn't need to restart, as you so eloquently put it.. its fine as it is. Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Liafcipe9000 Smeghead Empire 6959	Posted - 2013.07.02 06:15:00 - [50] - Quote smoking kills your brain kk bend over You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad.
Myfanwy Heimdal Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc 276	Posted - 2013.07.02 06:34:00 - [51] - Quote One of the great things about Eve is that if I ever bump into anothe Eve player then I know that his character is 'out there' waiting for me. If I ran into an EQ or WoW player (for example) the first question would be "Which server are you on?" The moment that they mention that they're not on my server then the whole conversation dries up. Any tales that we had of our experiences would become irrelevant and uninteresting to the other I used to subscribe to EON and I remember getting a beerrmat with my copy one day. The beerrmat advertised a Corp and it felt good to know that Out There in New Eden there was that Corp. We talk to other players and hear of great deeds being done in the game. It would be in Our Game. The whole point of Eve is that one person's actions can influence the game for evreryone else. Having more than one server would kill that magic. So, I vote No. So much so that I may walk away from the game if this ever happened. GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper
Mark Androcius 154	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:14:00 - [52] - Quote I don't really like the idea, but, it did get me thinking. We could get a new eve gate, one that is permanent and leads to a new universe ( much like or even same as the old eve gate that lead humans from earth to new Eden ). It could be a universe that is entirely separate from our current universe, yet you can get in and out of it any time you want. Why would i think this is a good idea? Well, it will allow for more systems to be added to eve, without expanding the existing map, you basically just add a second map. New sov to grab ( while at the same time, it is extremely hard to maintain sov in both universes ), new trade-hubs to form, new enemies to shoot, new mission to fulfill etc etc etc. I know many people would like the idea of exploring new space in the way the Earthlings did, back when New Eden was just discovered. The gate would of course be positioned in the center of both universes. And on the other side ( the New Haven side ) it only has about 20 high-sec systems, controlled by a group of npc corporations that do not affiliate with any of the 4 current factions, yet maintain a good relationship with them all. It will have no low-sec at all, but rather LOT'S and LOT'S of null sec to claim. Maybe we could even introduce new minerals and PI materials/moon materials, that are only found there, while at the same time NOT having some of the minerals and materials found in New Eden, this would cause the 2 to become dependent on each-other over time, as more and more modules and ships start requiring materials from both universes. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?
I Love Boobies All Hail Boobies 539	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:16:00 - [53] - Quote The OPs idea was so silly it almost made my head explode. Good thing I was wearing a ball cap when I read it. removed inappropriate signature - CCP Eterne
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 342	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:26:00 - [54] - Quote Myfanwy Heimdal wrote: If I ran into an EQ or WoW player (for example) the first question would be "Which server are you on?" The moment that they mention that they're not on my server then the whole conversation dries up. Any tales that we had of our experiences would become irrelevant and uninteresting to the other Cross Realm Zone to Get New Players Excited Equals... My WoW realm isn't the best in the world in raiding and PvP, but it's home. Remove home, there's little purpose in playing. It's why server merging is so painful, just like what CRZ did in destroying realm communities. THINK about the consequences first, as the outcomes aren't fun. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Azami Nevinyrall Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team 1020	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:35:00 - [55] - Quote Are you going to pay for it? Are you on the CSM? Is it going to further nullsec powerblocs agendas? What is that you say? No? Guess what will never happen? Sharding EVE! I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner. Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall I'm half expecting a ban for this post.
DSpite Culhach Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance 122	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:38:00 - [56] - Quote I would personally not see the point of moving there. Alliances like Test and Goons and Razor (etc) would weigh the pro/cons of such a system, then either totally ignore the new server, or move there on mass. Both those options are bad. If the "new server" did not start a "custom" environment, it would be like someone deleting my multiplayer Minecraft world I had been running for ten years and saying "hey, it will be fun to start again". Pretty sure no judge would hold me guilty over stabbing that guy to death with a spork. I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships. I add bits to this when I'm bored https://www.dropbox.com/s/foijsawsqolarom/EVE_Online.html
ZeeWolf Novus Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2013.07.02 08:45:00 - [57] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: ......for all the people that didnt started out in 2003 and never saw how it was... In the beginning. But it still wouldn't be 'how it was', unless they had the bare minimum of T2 modules available, and the endgame was getting into a Battleship or an Interceptor. No T2 or T3 ships, aside from interceptors, no capitals. Just like the good old days.
Six Six Six Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2013.07.02 08:52:00 - [58] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Yeah, you got it right. EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain. Discuss. So in the interest of keeping it fresh they should put the game back to the start every 3 months. Not much point starting all over as it will just end up the same or similar later. Plus people have already made connections with others in-game and you won't be able to dissolve those in order to start afresh. So all in all it would be a fairly pointless exercise.
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 1209	Posted - 2013.07.02 08:53:00 - [59] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Yeah, you got it right. EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain. Discuss. What is wrong with you ? This is not UO, not a shard where "oh no, so many people way more advanced than me, I want all to start again, equal" Dumbest idea I have seen in a long time, although I have seen this same comment over a year ago. As bad as this idea is, it belongs in the Ideas forum, not in GD. I'd prefer to see it burn in a dustbin though. Utter rubbish. Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact
0Lona 0ltor Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 70	Posted - 2013.07.02 08:54:00 - [60] - Quote Aiwha wrote: Except that goes against everything EVE stands for. One server. Just make it bigger. Yeah uhm Serenity
Shaden Nightwalker Tryblium Sanguinis 3295	Posted - 2013.07.02 09:14:00 - [61] - Quote This idea is a bad idea. Bad ideas should not be implemented. Hence, this idea should not be implemented. I conclude my statement.
pussnheels The Fiction Factory 1241	Posted - 2013.07.02 09:20:00 - [62] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Yeah, you got it right. EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain. Discuss. what s the point , alot of people will hate the idea to start all over again and i do not mean skillpoints alone but all their archievements and assets secondly the largest alliances we have now will just reform within a day blitzkrieg thru nullsec leaving nothing for the others and dominate the whole game from start I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 343	Posted - 2013.07.02 09:46:00 - [63] - Quote pussnheels wrote: secondly the largest alliances we have now will just reform within a day blitzkrieg thru nullsec leaving nothing for the others and dominate the whole game from start And if players understand that this is a problem (if for anything the fun factor, and play anything than walking on eggshells), why isn't it fixed? Because it's not fun knowing null is high-sec........ "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Myfanwy Heimdal Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc 280	Posted - 2013.07.02 10:04:00 - [64] - Quote I have seen new servers set up in other MMOs and what happens is that rather than the new player start off on a level footing he still gets left behind. The vets know what to do from the word go and they go off and do just that. They'll be organised and they'll have set up their corps and then get into the Lo Sec and grab space-turf whilst the new player is still bumbling around with learning the ropes. Then when they realise what they should have done they then come onto the forums and ask for yet another server to be started in which they can become one of the knowledgeable vets there. In the meantime Eve has taken aboard new players. They are now stumbling around in server 3 but they won't go into servers 1 and 2 because they are already established. Server 2 then dies off because server 3 (and then server 4) takes all the new recruits and there's not enough players to make the server interesting. Server Five then starts up because of the whines of the new players. Server 1 still limps along but is slowly losing players as there's natural attrition. Servers two and three have more or less died and is full of space tumbleweed as there's no-one left playing. Server four is limping along because all the new players are in server five. Then there's a call for server six... And then as more and players come into the game there's fewer in each servr and the overall enthusiasm for the game has gone. Eve will then truly die. Eve isn't badly balanced; new players can come along unlike other MMOs such as EQ and WoW and take on the veterans after a relatively short while. Not only that, but the new players can arrive into a mature and thriving universe. For GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper
Lauren Pheonix Obsidian Squadron Novus Dominatum 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 10:05:00 - [65] - Quote Christie Anna wrote: Yeah, you got it right. EVE from the beginning, for everyone, no fancy faction ships, no coalitions, just veldspar and pain. Discuss. No. Here's you're sign.
Danny DCO nul-li-fy Nulli Secunda 6	Posted - 2013.07.02 10:08:00 - [66] - Quote 1 week old players should not be able to post on forums.
Six Six Six Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 160	Posted - 2013.07.02 10:10:00 - [67] - Quote Myfanwy Heimdal wrote: I have seen new servers set up in other MMOs and what happens is that rather than the new player start off on a level footing he still gets left behind. Someone like me that can play for 16+ hours a day easily if I so choose can easily get ahead of most of the competition if starting on a new server.
Myfanwy Heimdal Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc 280	Posted - 2013.07.02 10:13:00 - [68] - Quote Yes, but you know what you're doing. A completely new player can still spend 16 hours a day bumbling around asteroids trying to dig out veldspar and lose all advantage. GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper

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