Be careful when throwing around statements like, "not before losing a large chunk of veteran players"

If I was looking at the performance of Battlefield Heroes or whatever crappy casual free-to-play game was going, and knew about the nasty social environment of EVE veterans being the second or third biggest turn-off for new players, I would regard losing a large chunk of veteran players as A Good ThingGäó, if the inflow of new accounts more than compensated for the accounts shut down by the exiting bitter vets.

Then in two years when the income was at an all time high, gender balance at 45/55, we weren't receiving hundreds of complaints daily about sexual harassment, and lowsec was actively populated by people having adventures, I would look back at the decision to go Free-To-Play and thank myself for making that difficult decision.

Seriously, that is what goes through my head when I see people winding up that "ultimate ultimatum."

"Oh, you are threatening to quit if we do X? CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! We will do X in such a way that you will like it so much that you get your friends to subscribe too!"

it works for some games...it may get you money at first for eve but not before loosing a large chunk of veteran eve players(those who also have a lot of accounts), me included.

Given the way things are likely to go in Jita and general discussion I think it will be good if he can give a reassuring statement, in fact we read this third hand isn't a good sign, remember when CCP said one thing to us during Incarna and to the Icelandic press they said the opposite.

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"Flushed with pride"

Believe me, CCP are well aware that P2W MTs are a bad, bad, bad idea.

And we will remind them.

It is a real job. It's a producer's job to streamline production. They direct so the others can do their jobs.

]This does not seem at all likely and is also not exactly a real job

"Sure, EVE has managed 10 years of continuous growth with those horrible meany-face veterans, but THIS year is the one where they'll start to be a liability!"

Which in the end maybe the medicine EvE needs.

When the very players in the game are threatening the devs they're into destroying the game itself because they can't get their way, maybe it's for the good of the game itself.

People get angry with Blizzard in their games. They'll rant causing a scene (oh, I had some fiery posts). But you're not hearing them threaten Blizzard with burning down the game. They'll inform them that the game will suffer and folks will leave, but not of staging riots and more.

The mob here is willing to poop on their own lawn and set it afire. That's how crazy they are. ALL games have players that have put time and dime into the games they love to play. They get angry at some changes. They will post in 50,000+ post threads, telling the publisher their concerns. But they love the game and don't **** on it.

That's not how to win and influence anyone. It's how the publisher and devs go into siege mode.

You want changes or improvements help, don't go threatening the game itself. It looks bad. It shows the game attracts the worst in gaming. That makes everything look bad, and don't think the industry doesn't read these forums, either.

Be a solution, not the problem.

Eve has plenty of room for micro transactions, dual training was one of them but more and moe are possible without braking the game or bring PTW stuff on nex/what-the-heck-name or anywhere else in Eve.

There is plenty of stuff to do with Eve, including open eyes to close minded people who think game market strategies apply RL.