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LUKEC	Posted - 2005.12.01 12:19:00 - [1] Originally by: Meridius Edited by: Meridius on 01/12/2005 11:33:50 You guys have the Ishtar. Until everyone else gets 2 good HAC's i really don't hope to see any Deimos improvements. The Deimos is good and is certainly better then the Muninn and Sacrilege. The Gallente have the best pair of HACs you can fly, skill point for skill point. Well, munin with dual 1800mm ACs or 220mm acs and 1600mm plate is definitely tough bite for deimos. It has ~3x more hp, and resists are not much worse in the end. It is slower with AB than deimos with mwd, but who cares, 8km falloff is more than ions have :) Oh and those acs track better than any blasters, especially on munin. Originally by: WildCard "NOW Flyzone" before after Be back in a year or so
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.12.01 15:13:00 - [2] deimos would need ~200more pg and 30more cpu, because atm... your versatility is limited to ion blasters or electrons + 800mm plate and pick of drone type. Anyway: more pg, more cpu, more CAP... especially the last one. Damage is ok, but still not good enough when compared to vagabond with 220mm acs, 10+km falloff and 5dmg mods. Oh and they are also able to fit nosf on vaga... along with large shield extender... Bleh... i guess it is not only the ship but also guns, which have a bit too high fitting reqs. And just another thing: demand... hi dps and good kin/th tank makes it ultimate npc ship for 50% 0.0 space. Originally by: WildCard "NOW Flyzone" before after Be back in a year or so
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.12.01 18:30:00 - [3] I think that zealot with 7HSII and 4x heavy pulsesII comes very close to deimos full of ions and dmg mods. But while zealot might have use for pure gank, deimos doesn't have. Oh and another thing, you can decently fit zealot with 800mm t2 plate and heavy pulses... try 800mm plate, mar and t2 ions... then neutrons :) Originally by: WildCard "NOW Flyzone" before after Be back in a year or so
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.12.01 20:00:00 - [4] Originally by: Amos Sommers In respone to the original post: Not mentioning the fact that because of the mwd signature radius you get insta-wtf-pwnt-bbq-zapped by anything thats same size or bigger. This goes for Megathron aswel.. Yp, another great attribute of deimos... Originally by: WildCard "NOW Flyzone" before after Be back in a year or so
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.12.02 16:38:00 - [5] possibly best way to setup deimos atm is: 5x t2 electrons mwd, web, scram med. repper, 800mm t2 plate, 3x dmg mods, cap relay It is almost pure gank, but it has ~4k armor and maybe does enough dmg b4 you run out of cap etc. I was also wondering if you could fit 1600mm plate and small repper... but you cannot without using rcu... Originally by: WildCard "NOW Flyzone" before after Be back in a year or so
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.12.30 01:32:00 - [6] so deimos is fine? man you don't need any officer/faction implants or officer stuff on vaga that would probably still kill that deimos. HatePeace LoveWar[ATUK] > they ebayed the bs for grain
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.01.12 15:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Sarmaul pffft noobs Neutron Blaster Cannon II x 1, 200mm Autocannon II x 4, Small Nos x 1, 10mn MWD II x 1, Stasis Web x 1, Large Shield Booster II x 1, RCU II x 6. THAT's how you setup a Deimos. 5x true sansha RCU and officer cpu, else you run out of cpu. Oh and 5 harversters in drone bay ... so you acutally can do something with it and useless argument is wrong. I use no guns... i smack to death.
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.01.24 19:00:00 - [8] actually deimos has good use... npcing :) apart from that it is very bad investment. I use no guns... i smack to death.
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.01.25 14:29:00 - [9] eyeshadow... so how much better you rate your setup than similar setup on thorax :)? Something like: 5x electronsII mwd, web, scram mar, 800mm t2, mix of membranes/dmg mods Oh and don't forget, 150dps from hammerheads still :) I doubt deimos is worth flying :) I use no guns... i smack to death.
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:44:00 - [10] Edited by: LUKEC on 26/01/2006 14:44:09 Originally by: Nival How can you justify asking for Deimos boost when Muninn runs into exactly the same issues. Either boost all the tier2 HACs (with possible exception of Sacriledge, which is already getting fixed) or leave them alone. Well not entirely true... munin performs excellent in sniping role. Deimos suck in its role, however. Oh and i've seen how AC munin with 2x wcs fitted wiped floor with deimos that didn't have wcs. I use no guns... i smack to death.

LUKEC	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:59:00 - [11] yes, but u can pvp with arty munin solo quite nice... Afs die b4 you get to F5 :) I use no guns... i smack to death.
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.01.26 15:15:00 - [12] Originally by: KilROCK Originally by: LUKEC yes, but u can pvp with arty munin solo quite nice... Afs die b4 you get to F5 :) We don't shoot the same afs i dont use minmater ship, but i know what iu've seen I use no guns... i smack to death.
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.03.08 11:22:00 - [13] atm, deimos is no better than thorax, except when it comes to killing thorax... Apart from that, everything that deimos does, can be done with thorax for like 10% of the price. Originally by: Commander Nikolas People like Lukec are the problem and they know it. Shin Ra's Raven has 4x WCS, Lukec's Dominix has 5x WCS & Ishtar has 2x WCS. Antipiracy is causing brain damage
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.04.02 11:29:00 - [14] Originally by: Denrace I do not see how you can complain about a ship that does the most DPS in its class. There are loads of ships which are a pain in the ass to fit. Ever heard of a RCU II? Deimos needs no love whatsoever. If I see a Deimos MWD-ing or AB-ing towards me I know full well I am in for a world of hurt. The pant-stain-inducing ability that the sheer herculean amount of DPS this ship can dish out simply overshadows some insignificantly slight fitting problem. And who cares about 10m/s difference? In the grand scheme of things this makes a negligible impact on the performace of a Deimos. You ever tried fitting the 6th high slot of a Cerberus with anything useful? Den My recent encounters with deimos: 1. tought: look, someone is actually still trying to pvp in blaster deimos 2. tought: he won't do it again, let's teach him an expensive lesson 3. tought: how can he be dead already? Deimos is no better than thorax. 5x electrons II and 800mm plate on thorax work like 20% worse than on deimos, which is still enough, and they don't percieve any threat. However the price is like 10%. On the other hand: deimos is like 300pg and 50 cpu short. Also 50m/s speed increase would really help. (still much slower than vagabond) Die, die, die.

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