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lady preety
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Posted - 2005.12.01 11:54:00 -
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Q: as in title?
will this mean that most pvp alliance will need some industry base in their space, i rly dont see Alliance A building all those new cool ships and sell them to Alliance B...as Alliance A could use them against Alliance B?
Doom Questien: Will we actually see these new monster Ships? because lets face it....if Alliance A is at war with Alliance B, and A is trying to built one of those monster ships, it seems more than reseanable that B will try to stop A...
Will this means that for a few months we will see loads L O V E so that major alliance can produce these monster and than WUHAHAHA big war breaks out with new the BIG GUNS?
Also, what happens to the big Mercenary Corp/Alliance...e.g. MC in this one?
they dont claim any 0.0 how are they going to manage to make these monster ships without 0.0 access "sure they can blast their way into 0.0" claim a few systems and try and built these new type of ships...
if this fails how are they going to compete vs. a contract that might have these big ships?
Ok, i know loads of questiens....maybe many not rly direct to the point, but i thought maybe start the brainstorming and see what ppl think how Alliances will change or already are changing their mentality to have in their hands these big mofo ships...
ciao
fisty 
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fisty
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Posted - 2005.12.01 11:55:00 -
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oops....
meant to post with this account 
....hides...
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.01 11:57:00 -
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i'm guessing RISK will just steal them
--thoth
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.12.01 11:59:00 -
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I'm still amazed by this concept that so called "PvP" alliances can't produce industrially.
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ps. POST WITH YOUR MAIN
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fisty
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Posted - 2005.12.01 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: fisty on 01/12/2005 12:01:31
 Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
I'm still amazed by this concept that so called "PvP" alliances can't produce industrially.
k maybe concept of pvp alliance doesnt hold up rly good...
elaborate than plz...
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.12.01 12:13:00 -
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All i'm saying is that just because an alliance is renowned for PvP it does not mean that it doesn't have players who will carebear, mine, run POS, build stuff. It's not a question of bringing in industrial types to do that for you.
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ps. POST WITH YOUR MAIN
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Karrimdra
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Posted - 2005.12.01 12:22:00 -
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I know for a fact there are industrial alts around... I have one... and guess what, i'm in a PvP alliance
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.12.01 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: fisty
Edited by: fisty on 01/12/2005 12:01:31
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
I'm still amazed by this concept that so called "PvP" alliances can't produce industrially.
k maybe concept of pvp alliance doesnt hold up rly good...
elaborate than plz...
No matter how good a alliance is at pvp, it needs to sustain it self, every "pvp" alliance makes your local carebears looks like kids compared.
Pvp'ers wil do whats needet to get what ever done, "carebears" wont.
LK
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Inky Blackness
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Posted - 2005.12.01 13:26:00 -
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built it in empire and jump it into 0.0 just like you do with dreads ?.
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.12.01 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Inky Blackness
built it in empire and jump it into 0.0 just like you do with dreads ?.
Care to read the dev blog before you answer m8??
They cant be built in empire......
Answer to the question: Pay someone to make the ships for them?
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Der Ewige
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Posted - 2005.12.01 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Inky Blackness
built it in empire and jump it into 0.0 just like you do with dreads ?.
Get a clue?
To build a Mothership or Titan you need to have a "Capital Ship Yard". "Capital Ship Yard" can only be bilt at POS's in a system you have souvereignety.
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What else makes it even more difficult is Motherships and Titans can not be build in stations. Anyone intressted in trying to build either of these ships will need to construct a starbase and install a new structure called: Capital Ship Yard
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.12.01 14:11:00 -
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All military powerhouses must first have an equally powerful and sustainable industrial capacity. 1 cannot last long without the other! EG. PVPers run out of ships cos of no industry or Industry gets smashed because of no defense against pvpers!
Believe it or not, ALL powerful alliances have extensive industrial power.
K i'll shutup now.
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lilan Kahn
No matter how good a alliance is at pvp, it needs to sustain it self, every "pvp" alliance makes your local carebears looks like kids compared.
Pvp'ers wil do whats needet to get what ever done, "carebears" wont.
LK
w3rd
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:01:00 -
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What Darko is trying to say is that just like BoB, IRON are really all innocent miners.
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ps. POST WITH YOUR MAIN
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:29:00 -
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Very innocent, as anyone that has ever been to Blackpool will attest.
No guilt, no shame.
lalala
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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FowlPlayChiken
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Posted - 2005.12.01 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 01/12/2005 18:11:04
edited because it was an accidental alt post.
MC's plans for the future are not open to the public. however
im sure major alliances will end up with a month of relative peace soon. why? not because of the big guns, but because the galaxy has been on fire awhile now and peoples wallets will soon need replenishing me thinks
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.12.01 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lilan Kahn
No matter how good a alliance is at pvp, it needs to sustain it self, every "pvp" alliance makes your local carebears looks like kids compared.
Pvp'ers wil do whats needet to get what ever done, "carebears" wont.
LK
The truth, the only wat to be strong is to grow your economy and industry in line with your PVPers and after constant wars the only ones that tend to stay are the non carebears.
El Presedente
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fisty
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Posted - 2005.12.01 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 01/12/2005 18:11:04
edited because it was an accidental alt post.
MC's plans for the future are not open to the public. however
im sure major alliances will end up with a month of relative peace soon. why? not because of the big guns, but because the galaxy has been on fire awhile now and peoples wallets will soon need replenishing me thinks
hey there,
please dont get this the wrong that im trying to get info on mc out...etc...
it was just that u guys made the best example for the anwsers im seeking thats all:D
not rly any direct anwsers have been given tho....just that well so called pvp alliance myth doesnt stand and that they need industry based alliance too apart from that...not many anwsers in the way i was expecting them....only fowplaychicken has anwsered a little of my seekings:D
ta to all btw who bothered in here :D
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NATMav
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Posted - 2005.12.01 20:46:00 -
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Quote:
What else makes it even more difficult is Motherships and Titans can not be build in stations. Anyone intressted in trying to build either of these ships will need to construct a starbase and install a new structure called: Capital Ship Yard.
Not really sure if they mean POS or Outpost by "starbase".
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.12.01 20:52:00 -
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Good thing this game is not about ISK its about Good/Bad!!!
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Posted - 2005.12.01 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav
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What else makes it even more difficult is Motherships and Titans can not be build in stations. Anyone intressted in trying to build either of these ships will need to construct a starbase and install a new structure called: Capital Ship Yard.
Not really sure if they mean POS or Outpost by "starbase".
POSes are Starbases. Outposts are Stations.
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.12.01 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lilan Kahn
Originally by: fisty
Edited by: fisty on 01/12/2005 12:01:31
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
I'm still amazed by this concept that so called "PvP" alliances can't produce industrially.
k maybe concept of pvp alliance doesnt hold up rly good...
elaborate than plz...
No matter how good a alliance is at pvp, it needs to sustain it self, every "pvp" alliance makes your local carebears looks like kids compared.
Pvp'ers wil do whats needet to get what ever done, "carebears" wont.
LK
Quoted for truth.
Joy for building capships... Oi!
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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.12.01 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lilan Kahn
No matter how good a alliance is at pvp, it needs to sustain it self, every "pvp" alliance makes your local carebears looks like kids compared.
Pvp'ers wil do whats needet to get what ever done, "carebears" wont.
LK
Lilan, I would say that you have not met the right carebears if this is your opinion of them. Surely there are plenty of greedy carebears out there BUT there are also some of us who do quite a bit for our corps/aliiances.
I think the question is how will the introduction of these new Capital ships and the new methods for their production affect alliances who claim space? With Carriers taking 11 days and Titans taking 6 weeks to build (based on test server numbers), an alliance who claims space will need sufficient regional protection forces to ensure that the shipyards are protected during these larger builds. This means that roaming PvP alliances who wish to build these new capital ships would need to rethink their roaming ways as supply will be limited at first for Carriers, and my guess is that Titans will always be in short supply (I hate using the word "always" when talking about this game).
It's clear that while Eve is a PvP game, specilized Industrialists and waves of carebears will be needed more than ever before, and protection of your claimed space be more important than ever before.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.12.02 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: ****take
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
No matter how good a alliance is at pvp, it needs to sustain it self, every "pvp" alliance makes your local carebears looks like kids compared.
Pvp'ers wil do whats needet to get what ever done, "carebears" wont.
LK
Lilan, I would say that you have not met the right carebears if this is your opinion of them. Surely there are plenty of greedy carebears out there BUT there are also some of us who do quite a bit for our corps/aliiances.
I think the question is how will the introduction of these new Capital ships and the new methods for their production affect alliances who claim space? With Carriers taking 11 days and Titans taking 6 weeks to build (based on test server numbers), an alliance who claims space will need sufficient regional protection forces to ensure that the shipyards are protected during these larger builds. This means that roaming PvP alliances who wish to build these new capital ships would need to rethink their roaming ways as supply will be limited at first for Carriers, and my guess is that Titans will always be in short supply (I hate using the word "always" when talking about this game).
It's clear that while Eve is a PvP game, specilized Industrialists and waves of carebears will be needed more than ever before, and protection of your claimed space be more important than ever before.
erm WTS clue arnt you in some sort of ppl alliance thanks for proveing my point
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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fisty
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Posted - 2005.12.02 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: ****take
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
No matter how good a alliance is at pvp, it needs to sustain it self, every "pvp" alliance makes your local carebears looks like kids compared.
Pvp'ers wil do whats needet to get what ever done, "carebears" wont.
LK
Lilan, I would say that you have not met the right carebears if this is your opinion of them. Surely there are plenty of greedy carebears out there BUT there are also some of us who do quite a bit for our corps/aliiances.
I think the question is how will the introduction of these new Capital ships and the new methods for their production affect alliances who claim space? With Carriers taking 11 days and Titans taking 6 weeks to build (based on test server numbers), an alliance who claims space will need sufficient regional protection forces to ensure that the shipyards are protected during these larger builds. This means that roaming PvP alliances who wish to build these new capital ships would need to rethink their roaming ways as supply will be limited at first for Carriers, and my guess is that Titans will always be in short supply (I hate using the word "always" when talking about this game).
It's clear that while Eve is a PvP game, specilized Industrialists and waves of carebears will be needed more than ever before, and protection of your claimed space be more important than ever before.
****tage as always good articulated and easy to understand....as i remember...u gave me some idea on the anwsers im looking...
i think ****take is one of the most dedicated person ive seen in what ever corp he is in, and i think many ppl can back this up from back in the days....i guess in recent times he developed into UBER carebear now hehe:D
thx again for anwser m8
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.12.02 00:56:00 -
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fowlplaychiken's sig wins this thread
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Fangdango
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Posted - 2005.12.02 01:38:00 -
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As for MC i will personally give trooper 100millin trite as i still hold feelings for his ********(nationality withheld) arse.
I'll gladly swap the above for the 15 tartan pairs of brown pants with cream piping he's left at our old lurve nest :))))
did someone say doom weapon?
in case u havnt noticed its been around for years!!!! CCP LAG ftw the DW.
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2005.12.02 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
I'm still amazed by this concept that so called "PvP" alliances can't produce industrially.
so true... .5 still think we are macrominers 
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Agent Kenshin
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Posted - 2005.12.02 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 01/12/2005 18:11:04
edited because it was an accidental alt post.
MC's plans for the future are not open to the public. however
im sure major alliances will end up with a month of relative peace soon. why? not because of the big guns, but because the galaxy has been on fire awhile now and peoples wallets will soon need replenishing me thinks
Shh you back to getting drunk and flying around in stilletos with no offensive weapons...
Havent all you major alliances realized that CCP doesnt want you claiming huge regions but only small constellations. Some of the best examples are FIX and 3FA who are still alive. Smaller is better in this case.(Some would dissagree.)
Originally by: MAXSuicide
only carebears call pvpers 'greifers'
ehehehh....
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.02 07:13:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 02/12/2005 07:13:01
Step One: Collect Component BPO's.
Step Three: Big Contract.
Clear enough? 
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