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Galdar Nox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:38:00 -
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Hi,
I currently have the navy scorpion, I have 6 heavy missile launchers on it (which is the max)
My dps atm is pretty low and although lvl 2's are easy, they take a long time for me because of my low damage.
I really like my missiles and was wondering how to get more dps? I have trained som skill levels at heavy missiles and such and I have 2 missiles rigs, more damage and "cooldown"
Currently, I can't see any way for me to get more dps without training for many weeks in skills, anybody know any other ways?
My missile launcher has a dps of 18 with faction missiles and a range of 43. Should I use any other launcher for me dps?
PS. I dont want to lose alot of range.
I appreciate any answer, thx.
- Thomas |

Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
211
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:46:00 -
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Galdar Nox wrote:Hi,
I currently have the navy scorpion, I have 6 heavy missile launchers on it (which is the max)
My dps atm is pretty low and although lvl 2's are easy, they take a long time for me because of my low damage.
I really like my missiles and was wondering how to get more dps? I have trained som skill levels at heavy missiles and such and I have 2 missiles rigs, more damage and "cooldown"
Currently, I can't see any way for me to get more dps without training for many weeks in skills, anybody know any other ways?
My missile launcher has a dps of 18 with faction missiles and a range of 43. Should I use any other launcher for me dps?
PS. I dont want to lose alot of range.
I appreciate any answer, thx.
- Thomas
Skills, lots of skills - if your dps is 18 for a faction missile every relevant skill level will make a difference (look at the certificate planner for good missile skills) |

Galdar Nox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:49:00 -
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Ruskarn Andedare wrote:Galdar Nox wrote:Hi,
I currently have the navy scorpion, I have 6 heavy missile launchers on it (which is the max)
My dps atm is pretty low and although lvl 2's are easy, they take a long time for me because of my low damage.
I really like my missiles and was wondering how to get more dps? I have trained som skill levels at heavy missiles and such and I have 2 missiles rigs, more damage and "cooldown"
Currently, I can't see any way for me to get more dps without training for many weeks in skills, anybody know any other ways?
My missile launcher has a dps of 18 with faction missiles and a range of 43. Should I use any other launcher for me dps?
PS. I dont want to lose alot of range.
I appreciate any answer, thx.
- Thomas Skills, lots of skills - if your dps is 18 for a faction missile every relevant skill level will make a difference (look at the certificate planner for good missile skills)
Ok, thanks. This helps alot :D |

Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
311
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:51:00 -
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/facepalm
Stop using a Navy Scorpion for L2's and switch to something like a Caracal with Rapid Light Missile Launchers. |

stoicfaux
2895
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:52:00 -
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Galdar Nox wrote:Hi,
I currently have the navy scorpion, I have 6 heavy missile launchers on it (which is the max)
My dps atm is pretty low and although lvl 2's are easy, they take a long time for me because of my low damage.
I really like my missiles and was wondering how to get more dps? I have trained som skill levels at heavy missiles and such and I have 2 missiles rigs, more damage and "cooldown"
Currently, I can't see any way for me to get more dps without training for many weeks in skills, anybody know any other ways?
My missile launcher has a dps of 18 with faction missiles and a range of 43. Should I use any other launcher for me dps?
PS. I dont want to lose alot of range.
I appreciate any answer, thx.
- Thomas
Ah... use cruise missiles on your battleship hull. Cruise missiles will benefit from the Navy Scorp's RoF bonus (while Heavy Missiles will not.) And put 5-6 TPs on it if you're running level 2s.
Question for you. How many acceleration gates in level 2 missions allow battleships? (Meaning, are we really talking about a navy scorpion?)
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Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
202
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:52:00 -
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Hey man. Definitely get cruise missles trained for starters. Cruise missles on a Raven are sweet.
Also, go to the Market, Skills subsection, Missiles subsection. Buy all them skills (minus the capital ones), inject, play...!!!  It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Ayuren Aakiwa
An Eye For An Eye AN EYE F0R AN EYE
87
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:52:00 -
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Skills, skills and more skills. Also, if you're only getting 18 dps per launcher and running level 2 missions, what the **** are you doing in a navy scorpion ?? pew pew 24/7 |

Galdar Nox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:55:00 -
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Thanks to all, really helps alot :D And yes, I'm using a navy scorpion and havent had any problems with acc. gates. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
4854
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:56:00 -
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Use Cruise or Torps...your Heavy missiles aren't getting bonused at all.
As said above, for L2s, use a caracal with rapid lights. Much better DPS against smaller targets. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Just Lilly
96
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:01:00 -
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He's probably playing it very safe ^^
As his skills goes up, he can switch to more "accurate" fit down the road. Powered by Nvidia GTX 690 |
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Naes Mlahrend
KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance
108
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:03:00 -
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Not sure if anyone said this yet but...LVL2's with a Navy Scorp? |

Galdar Nox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:05:00 -
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After all Ive heard now I will buy a caracal :P
But probably like any other noobs, I just wanted A big and expensive ship and hoping to be OP, but I understand now it takes time and experience :P |

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
345
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:06:00 -
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Keep flying that Navy Scorp if you want to lose it.
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Just Lilly
96
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:08:00 -
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A Caracal will do you good, and it will speed things up for you  Powered by Nvidia GTX 690 |

Galdar Nox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:10:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Keep flying that Navy Scorp if you want to lose it.
What do you mean I will lose it? :P
A caracal is probably better but i feel pretty safe in a navy scorpion :) |

Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
510
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:20:00 -
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Galdar Nox wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Keep flying that Navy Scorp if you want to lose it. What do you mean I will lose it? :P A caracal is probably better but i feel pretty safe in a navy scorpion :)
Fitting HML's to a navy scorp is a warcrime in some constellations. Somebody may put your ship out of its misery.
Get a drake. Drakes are brick walls. Lock up your staions and hide your daughters.
Nulli incoming |

Galdar Nox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:37:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Galdar Nox wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Keep flying that Navy Scorp if you want to lose it. What do you mean I will lose it? :P A caracal is probably better but i feel pretty safe in a navy scorpion :) Fitting HML's to a navy scorp is a warcrime in some constellations. Somebody may put your ship out of its misery. Get a drake. Drakes are brick walls.
:S
What launchers are best on a drake? Does every ship have some launchers or turrets they are best with?
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
510
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:38:00 -
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Galdar Nox wrote:Aiwha wrote:Galdar Nox wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Keep flying that Navy Scorp if you want to lose it. What do you mean I will lose it? :P A caracal is probably better but i feel pretty safe in a navy scorpion :) Fitting HML's to a navy scorp is a warcrime in some constellations. Somebody may put your ship out of its misery. Get a drake. Drakes are brick walls. :S What launchers are best on a drake? Does every ship have some launchers or turrets they are best with?
Heavies will work on a drake. Check the ship description, it'll tell you what size/type of weapon it gives bonuses to.
A navy scorp get bonuses to cruise missiles or torpedo launchers. Lock up your staions and hide your daughters.
Nulli incoming |

Galdar Nox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:46:00 -
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May I ask what a scorpion will be good for, since apparently doing lvl 2's with it is not a good idea. |

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
345
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:53:00 -
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A Navy Scorp when properly fit is a wreck factory in pvp.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
511
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:03:00 -
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Galdar Nox wrote:May I ask what a scorpion will be good for, since apparently doing lvl 2's with it is not a good idea.
Save it for level IV's. Lock up your staions and hide your daughters.
Nulli incoming |

Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
202
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:04:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:A Navy Scorp when properly fit is a wreck factory in pvp.
This! Sweet jesus they hurt... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
1376
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:12:00 -
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I suggest you learn a bit more about the game before dropping plex for expensive ships. You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3836
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:14:00 -
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For L2 missions, with missile skills, use a Caracal, Corax, Talwar or Bellicose. The destroyers (Talwar, Corax) will be best suited to the role, use light missiles and afterburner or MWD to maintain range, but you will need good shield support skills and navigation skills to reliably complete missions with the ship intact (shield operation, shield management to 4), and use a shield booster with 1 hardener, no expanders.
The caracal or drake are the best heavy missile platforms: heavy missiles are good for blowing up frigates. The Navy Scorpion is a cruise missile or torpedo platform: neither missile type is suited to blowing up frigates.
With decent missile, shield and navigation skills and a decent meta-3 Corax you will be blowing up L2 mission frigates with one or two light missiles, L2 mission cruisers in a couple of salvos. I still use the Corax in L3 missions, but only because I am a masochist.
My typical missile boat fit involves overdrive injector(s), ballistic controls, MWD, and a full rack of the best launchers I can get my hands on. For mission running, I sometimes spend more on the launchers and ballistic controls than the hull is worth (i.e: T2 launchers and ballistic control on a Corax).
I find the Corax more entertaining to fly than the Caracal. But I am a masochist, so coming home from a mission with hull damage means I had a few heart-in-my-mouth moments, which is what I find entertaining. With the Caracal you are setting yourself up for RSI: target stuff as quickly as you can, press the individual missile launcher buttons as fast as you can, get back to base as fast as you can, accept the next mission as fast as you can GǪ wash, rinse, repeat.
The Caracal becomes entertaining in L3 missions. The Drake is a reliable performer for L2-4 missions.
The Navy Scorpion becomes useful for fleets where you have web and painter support, and you have the right missile system fitted, and you have excellent missile skills. It is useful for Incursion fleets, for example. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Galdar Nox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:24:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:I suggest you learn a bit more about the game before dropping plex for expensive ships.
Good point.
Mara Rinn wrote:For L2 missions, with missile skills, use a Caracal, Corax, Talwar or Bellicose. The destroyers (Talwar, Corax) will be best suited to the role, use light missiles and afterburner or MWD to maintain range, but you will need good shield support skills and navigation skills to reliably complete missions with the ship intact (shield operation, shield management to 4), and use a shield booster with 1 hardener, no expanders.
The caracal or drake are the best heavy missile platforms: heavy missiles are good for blowing up frigates. The Navy Scorpion is a cruise missile or torpedo platform: neither missile type is suited to blowing up frigates.
With decent missile, shield and navigation skills and a decent meta-3 Corax you will be blowing up L2 mission frigates with one or two light missiles, L2 mission cruisers in a couple of salvos. I still use the Corax in L3 missions, but only because I am a masochist.
My typical missile boat fit involves overdrive injector(s), ballistic controls, MWD, and a full rack of the best launchers I can get my hands on. For mission running, I sometimes spend more on the launchers and ballistic controls than the hull is worth (i.e: T2 launchers and ballistic control on a Corax).
I find the Corax more entertaining to fly than the Caracal. But I am a masochist, so coming home from a mission with hull damage means I had a few heart-in-my-mouth moments, which is what I find entertaining. With the Caracal you are setting yourself up for RSI: target stuff as quickly as you can, press the individual missile launcher buttons as fast as you can, get back to base as fast as you can, accept the next mission as fast as you can GǪ wash, rinse, repeat.
The Caracal becomes entertaining in L3 missions. The Drake is a reliable performer for L2-4 missions.
The Navy Scorpion becomes useful for fleets where you have web and painter support, and you have the right missile system fitted, and you have excellent missile skills. It is useful for Incursion fleets, for example.
thanks! :D Very good to know :D |

Derdrom Utida
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
53
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:26:00 -
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Think of it this way:
Small sizes are Rocket and Light Missile Launchers. They go on frigates and destroyers.
Medium sizes are Rapid Light, Heavy, and Heavy Assault Launchers. They go on Cruisers and Battlecruisers.
Large sizes are Torpedos and Cruiser missiles. They go on battleships. (though covops use torpedoes, even though they're frigates) |

Galdar Nox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:32:00 -
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I get more dps with heavies on a caracal. Do you guys still recommend rapid light? :) |

C DeLeon
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
190
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:40:00 -
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caracal with rapid light for lvl2 missions drake with heavy or heavy assault for lvl3 missions |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
4870
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:45:00 -
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C DeLeon wrote:caracal with rapid light for lvl2 missions drake with heavy or heavy assault for lvl3 missions
this. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Matt Petirov
Red Party
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:49:00 -
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Honestly I dropped by to see if this guy was getting trolled, but there was actually good advice for a noob thinking he could fly a battleship..
gj guys  |
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