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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.12 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 12/08/2003 21:13:48
I find it amusing that the Jericho Fraction throws its weight behind Oracle Corp when said corp already outmans and outguns us.
Obviously the merger of 1st Praetorian Guard and PIE Inc. has made some people in Oracle nervous that they feel the need to surround themselves with such allies.
And Jade - I am interested - Last night I talked with your corporation member Athule Snamn regarding the increasing incursions of Minmatar into Amarr space and from that conversation was of the impression that he was a loyal subject of the Emperor and all for defending the Empire's boundaries against the incursions of Mnimatar raiders such as Oracle.
What role does he and the other Amarr in your corporation play in this upcoming war? Are they forced to fight against the only Amarr Corporation that has been willing to put its neck on the line in defence of the Empire?
Despite adding your name to the list of enemies that beset us we look forward to meeting you on the battlefield and demonstrating that not all Amarr are prepared to be dictated to by outsiders.
We hope that Jericho Corporation will abide by the same rules of war which we have already agreed with Oracle and which have so far been honourable abided by on both sides.
And finally a plea to all Amarr spacers and Corporations - Will you idly standby when one of your number wages honourable war on behalf of the Emperor? We are outmanned and out gunned but we can no longer tolerate outside forces infringing the sovereignity of the Empire and enforcing their rules upon us. Therefore we will fight!
If you have one ounce of loyal Amarr blood in your veins then please feel free to assist us in our hour of need. In particular intelligence on the location of Oracle Corp members and mining operations would be most welcome as we try and disrupt their flow of resources!
Loyal Amarr are encouraged to open communications with us through our dedicated communications portal: www.pie-inc.com
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.13 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 13/08/2003 14:26:40
[Quote] Bad Harlequin (Oracle Corp) - Tracing the lines of support, antagonism, alliances, wars, and NAPs will now require Perseus-like abilities, i think...
Bad Harlequin you are definitely correct there!
All I know for sure is that in a few days time the war will resume between PIE Inc and Oracle Corporation. That is a definite.
To be honest we do not know why Jade Constantine (Jericho Fraction) decided to intervene in this war - especially as we are aware that not all members in her own Corporation are happy with it and continue to express their doubts about going to war with a Corporation loyal to the Emperor and the Amarr way of life.
Maybe it is yet another attempt at public relations or should I say self-glorification (as highly readable and amusing as they are ).
This dispute is between the Amarr and the upstart Minmatar, who have decided to enter our space and dictate how we should lead our lives. Jericho Fraction's 'Casus Belli' is weak to say the least!
Despite being outnumbered and outgunned by the combined Oracle and Jericho forces PIE Inc looks forward to meeting on the battlefield and demonstrating that not all Amarr will sit by and allow the Minmater to ride roughshod over our culture and way of life.
Although we have received welcome pledges of support from other Amarr spacers and Corporations, these have until now lacked in detail and commitment.
We only hope that the Amarr can put internal divisions behind them and unite to defend the Empire in the face of unwarranted Minmatar aggression and terrorism.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.13 16:43:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 13/08/2003 17:17:13
Ten out of Ten for effort! 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.14 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 14/08/2003 13:59:55
Quote: Noble Einheriar I believe I have aquired something that would be of great use to you in your fight to free your enslaved bretherin. Please contact me at your earliest convience.
Maud Dib - This is the second communication where I have seen you offering 'something' to sworn enemies of PIE Inc. and the Amarr Empire and I am really curious as to what it is you have 'acquired' that would be so useful to them 
Please feel free to share this with us all - after all keeping secrets is bad for the soul 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.14 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 14/08/2003 14:22:46
Well Miso considering that you once told me that you looked forward to:
'****ing on my frozen corpse'
and also that you were intending to
'mount my frozen corpse above your fireplace'
(which would certainly make the '****ing' thing interesting to watch!)
I thought the time had come to promote you from mere 'antagonist' to 'sworn enemy'. Sorry I didn't tell you about this 
With regard Maud Dib being in posession of 'nudie pics' of my fair self. I can understand why they would be of interest to yourself and Oracle.
Unfortunately these resulted from my misguided attempt to break into modelling at a young age and if indeed these are the pics that Maud Dib is hawking around I will be compelled to launch legal action 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.14 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 14/08/2003 15:02:42
To be honest she has a fine wit and her features are not displeasing but she is far too 'liberated' for my taste. If she would show the proper respect due an Amarrian noble of good standing then I am sure she could make a comely wife.
However after the cruel things she said about me...(http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=24639&page=2)...I doubt a liaison is on the cards!
The cabbage quip really hurt my feelings! 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.15 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 15/08/2003 14:37:51 Edited by: Hardin on 15/08/2003 14:36:46
Maud Dib - was just intrigued that's all 
As for progeny of a relationship with Miso I think that is highly unlikely as it seems she loves my frozen corpse more than she loves me!
If by some chance there was some progeny of such a relationship I would, as a dutiful Amarrian father, raise the offspring properly according to the holy scriptures. Hence they would have no issues with slaving as they would see this as part of the natural scheme of things.
However, as the offspring of a relationship with Miso would be half-Amarrians, I would most likely sell them into slavery once they reach their maturity and I can get a good price.
Being a caring father I would of course make sure they get placed with a good owner who will treat them reasonably kindly.
And as half Amarrians it may be possible that with a few decades of good work that they could buy themselves out of bondage...
Who says we have no heart?
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.15 15:45:00 -
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You are an Amarr lady after my own heart. Tell me do you come from a noble bloodline?
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.15 17:44:00 -
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Which 70's 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.17 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 17/08/2003 11:20:09
Despite the fact that we shall shortly be at war, PIE Inc and our members formerly of First Praetorian Guard, have always found Oracle to be men of their word...
Even if we disagree with those words Oracle have proved willing to back their rhetoric with ships and action!
The same cannot be said of Jade Constantine. Since her 'declaration' of war on the side of Oracle we have sighted many Jericho ships (including Jade's own).
Were they cruisers or battleships come to play their part in the war? No...in each case they were Industrials - probably hauling robotics or whatever the latest cash cow is along the superhighways.
Unfortunately, as Jade has not 'officially' declared war through the proper channels and the ships have been in high-sec space we have yet been able to take any action without bringing Concord down on ourselves...
It is just odd that after pledging her support to Oracle so publicly on these boards that Jericho Fraction has made no effort to engage us and simply continued trading - business as normal...
We shouldn't be surprised after all - what else can you expect from a Gallente...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.17 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 17/08/2003 13:05:00
Quote: Well monsieur Hardin, it is like this;
Concord bureaucracy yet ties our hands, and though we have little enough respect for such things, only the truly insane would ignore the penalties of transgressing these customs in high security space. Alas for timely hostilities; it is policy of Concord conflict management agencies that only three declarations of war be recognised at any one time, and since JerichoÆs third and final such declaration was directed against the 1st Praetorian Guards à needs must this dispute be officially ended before we can declare another and ætil then we are chained by Concord inaction.
As you yourself pointed out in your initial post the Concord regulations do not preclude some action in 0.0 space... Some of us do spend time in these areas but you do not seem to have made any effort to seek us out...
Quote: But this you must know monsieur Hardin? (Seeing as how the Guards have been assimilated and merged into your organisation after all)
Perhaps the more pertinent question to ask here is why the Praetorian Guards did not formally surrender to Jericho before merging with PIE Inc? After all, by most reasonable measures we did win the ôwarö. Prior to hostilities Jericho controlled a dozen ships and a nominal roster of a dozen pledged members against almost twice as many Praetorians à now we have increased our fleet and membership while the Praetorian organisation has dwindled and disappeared entirely. Technically monsieur à that is a win; say what you will of Gallente customs but at least we are sporting opponents and not too proud to acknowledge defeat when it happens.
I will have to check (when the former CEO of First Praetorian Guard is accessible to me) but from what I have heard you did not seek engagement in the first 'war'.
In fact my sources tell me that not a single battle was fought involving Jericho Fraction. I suppose you would like to leave the fighting to Oracle again?
As not a single clash was fought I laugh at your claim that you 'won'. The fact that you had more members and ships at the time First Praetorian Guard merged with PIE Inc is no indication of your ability and even willingness to fight...
Needless to say we would technically 'surrender' the First Praetorian Guard's war to you if it would expedite our present engagement. Unfortunately we find ourselves bound in the same layers of Concord bureaucracy that you do.
Quote: And yet knowing all this, you still produce a public accusation of our unwillingness to formalise the declaration à hmmm, one might well accuse you in turn of making public relations capital from the safety of Concord bureaucratic interference.
That is hardly a creditable position monsieur Hardin, nor one that any thoughtful analysis would be likely to count telling or pertinent.
So, since you raise this matter I challenge you as representative of PIE Inc to expedite this process;
Either revitalise the corporation you assimilated so it may surrender to Jericho properly.
Or contact Concord (as have we) to ask a nullification of the extant declaration of war.
Or declare war on Jericho directly yourselves; it is after all, your turn, since we filled in the paperwork the first time around.
With regard your 3 challenges
1) I have already expressed willingness to have the original war between 1PG and Jericho Fraction 'surrendered' in order to expedite a new declaration. This has not been possible because of Concord and stakeholder issues.
2) We have contacted Concord on this very issue on several occasions and have not had a response through their bureacracy yet! We live in hope.
3) We would declare war on you - except we also have 3 outstanding but long idle wars registered with Concord.
Maybe I was harsh in my previous response as at present Concord seems to the only thing holding us back.
However, as you pointed out yourself we can make war in 0.0 space and yet you have shown no attempt at instigating such a conflict by searching out our operations and attempting to disrupt them.
We on the other hand have made an active attempt to locate your operations (with some success) and have only been prevented from taking action because whenever we find your ships they are in 0.9 or 1.0 space!
As it seems that you do not intend to take any initiative to progress this 'war' which you so loftily declared you may as well continue your trade operations for now.
At least then you will be able to provide ISK to Oracle - and let them do the dirty work on your behalf! After all that is what Gallente do best...
Long Live The Emperor
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.18 18:42:00 -
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I agree that underestimating Miso is clearly a mistake!
She is canny for a Gallente wench 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.19 13:46:00 -
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Miso - I would be more than happy to share a quafe with you - maybe over a delicious candlelit dinner...if I could be so bold...
I was fortunate to pick up a new slave during the amusing Minmatar demonstration in Amarr this week and fortunately she turned out to be a fantastic cook!
I am sure we could have a most pleasant evening!
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.19 14:18:00 -
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Do you really think I would suggest a meal cooked by a 'slave' if I was considering 'my' defection Miso?
In fact I had a cultural evening lined up with some traditional Amarrian poetry readings, followed by a slideshow of great moments in Amarrian history and rounded off with a holoreel tribute to our present Emperor.
Who says Amarrians don't know how to have a good time!
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.20 14:24:00 -
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Quote: ...if you fancy a one-on-one, let me know and we'll get it on.
Yours
Miso x
Your plot to sow discord in our corp by making me jealous will not work Miso! 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.20 15:26:00 -
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This is typical of the unladylike language you expect from a Gallente female. It made me feel ill just reading those horrid words...
Methinks you need to spend some time at the Jade Constantine Finishing School For Coarse Gallente Women (If it doesn't exist it should be set up!) to learn how to avoid upsetting cultured people of more refined expression...
Then maybe you may qualify to be my love slave!

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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.08.21 09:53:00 -
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I could do a Jade Constantine style treatise about how Minmatar is not an empire and that we are not 'enforcing' our rules on anyone.
After all its simply trade & tradition (positively endorsed by our religion). And many among the Minmatar are happy to sell us slaves. No one forces them to do it.
However, at the end of the day it all comes down to points of view...
Our right point of view
and
Your wrong point of view
Now silence dogs! (excluding Miso )
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