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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:17:00 -
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Elvis Fett wrote: "A future with less trolls is less likely than a future with no war." - Winston Churchill
Love it
" Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
163
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:26:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Chribba wrote:I rather see a future with less trolls.
/c Fewer.
Fever.
I see a future with fever trolls.
We'll have to use fire to put them down.
There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
558
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:28:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Victoria Sin wrote:Chribba wrote:I rather see a future with less trolls.
/c Fewer. Fever. I see a future with fever trolls. We'll have to use fire to put them down.
+1
You go girl :D
" Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
4863
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:32:00 -
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Pardon me, but may I inquire as to the reasoning behind this repeated bludgeoning of a deceased equine?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Sex Slave Girl
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
94
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:37:00 -
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You guys are just scared of wallet warriors. Buying Titans in a deal package for $ 9.99. |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami
The Cursed Few
420
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:47:00 -
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Sex Slave Girl wrote:Let's talk about the good and bad stuff that comes with it.
For starters, I think the active eve population will go up, by a lot. Possible reaching 200.000 players on a normal day.
I also think, we will have 4~7 cloaky neutrals in every null sec system, that afk all day.
Jita will stil be limited to roughly 2000 players, but instead. The entire constellation will be nearly full. Reaching Jita would be impossible.
Suicide freighter ganks are more easily attained. As 1 guy could get 150 free to play accounts and use rifters to suicide on 1 Freighter.
The bittervets and other old carebear people will quit the game. But instead for every one of them, eve online gets 30 free to play players (who would probably never pay or barely go for microtransactions).
Time Dilation is a natural thing, as it will affect everyone, for the whole time. Fleet op Fights will probably resulting in a lot of server crashes.
But there are some good things too that come with it. We will have more people to play with! I, believe that eve online currently is a stable game, and due to this, will attract a lot of new players if it were to become free to play.
However the game will be changed so much, it won't be eve as we know it.
I don't think half of that increase in playerbase would be able to manage getting past 1 month of playing truth be told.
If your prophecy comes true that is.
You might have the fear of p2win and f2play et al, but I seriously think you overestimate the ability of that type of gamer.
"Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson)
Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
141
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:47:00 -
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Sex Slave Girl wrote:You guys are just scared of wallet warriors. Buying Titans in a deal package for $ 9.99.
How much do you cost?  |
Capt Gauss
WhiteFang Industries
4
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:52:00 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:Sex Slave Girl wrote:You guys are just scared of wallet warriors. Buying Titans in a deal package for $ 9.99. How much do you cost?
$4.99 on Saturday Nights ;)
During the weekdays of course it'll cost you 500 million Interstellar Kredits |
Soylent Jade
New Order Logistics
CODE.
18
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:57:00 -
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Sex Slave Girl wrote:I also think, we will have 4~7 cloaky neutrals in every null sec system, that afk all day.
This would be hilarious, but not worth the influx of Freetards.
BTW, your avatar just isn't the same without the massive boobs poking me in the eyes.
Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time
minerbumping.com |
Navi Hasseleh
Megaton m3 Heavy Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:20:00 -
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You must not be a taxpayer and your income must be derived from some sort of government welfare system.
If Eve were free to play, then the computer hardware and the other infrastructure needed to operate the game would have to be donated by somebody.
The management team and the software developers would be working for free because they love what they do. They would have no home, no car, would beg for food, and constantly be in court to argue with the ex-wife or ex-husband who divorced them about child support payments and alimony.
I think the last time your frigate blew up, you were cracked in the head by shrapnel and some of your implants' wiring is all screwed up now.
Either that or your are loony.
Considering how much I play Eve, they should be charging me double what I currently pay. I pay in real money on an annual basis. |
Evei Shard
202
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:26:00 -
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Eve cannot go f2p with its current account model.
Heck, I'd open more accounts myself and see just how many I could control without needing something like isboxer.
The number of accounts would skyrocket even if you just had the current player base, without the injection of the f2p crowd.
Eve can't go full-on brainless f2p without an incredible amount of change that would make a lot of people unhappy.
Then again, I think we've all seen other games that are examples which show that cash is king, and appeasing the investors is the only thing that matters. Investors have proven that they are greedy, impatient, uncaring non-players who are easily attracted to shiny "new business models" that promise a quick profit.
Profit favors the prepared |
Sex Slave Girl
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
94
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:28:00 -
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Soylent Jade wrote:Sex Slave Girl wrote:I also think, we will have 4~7 cloaky neutrals in every null sec system, that afk all day.
This would be hilarious, but not worth the influx of Freetards. BTW, your avatar just isn't the same without the massive boobs poking me in the eyes.
I know but this Forum is rated PG 13+ so it had to be changed. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
1248
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Posted - 2013.07.03 22:49:00 -
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Sex Slave Girl wrote:Let's talk about the good and bad stuff that comes with it.
I really miss your old avatar pic.....why did you change it.....WHY!!!!!!?!??!?????
BTW, Eve is already F2P and has been since the introduction of breasts.....I mean plex!
HTFU!...for the children! |
Max Deveron
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:01:00 -
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FREE TO PLAY??? FREE TO PLAY??
Are you out of your frakking mind? The only FPS that needs to exsist here in EvE is the ability to create a corp get a group going and everyone in it find a way to use the in game ability to make enough isk to plex ur accounts.....thats as far FPS needs to go.
Really OP....you are just plain dumb. If I wanted play games like Star Trek Online, Black Prohecy, etc with their supposed FPS but i can pay for advantages with cash idea but be limited in how i want to play with arena style play for pvp and the like (wow comes to mind here) and no sense of loss or risk which means no sense of accomplishment then i would not be playing EvE....go back where you came from and STFU. |
Aiwha
Infinite Point
Nulli Secunda
568
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:06:00 -
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The bot spam is bad enough with the trial accounts.
We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1156
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:08:00 -
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It's funny listening to people talk about F2P likes it some revolution in the gaming industry and not just the sad result of a bunch of misguided and ill-considered attempts to recreate the singular success of warcraft.
Market standard subscriptions are either insignificant or nearly so, it's just the industry's going through a "lost-ball-in-tall-grass" period and can't create an MMO that's worth playing for more than three months.
The industry should be looking to what CCP has done with Eve, not the other way around.
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
849
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:59:00 -
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Sex Slave Girl wrote:
But there are some good things too that come with it. We will have more people to play with!
However the game will be changed so much, it won't be eve as we know it.
A) Said "more people" won't like undock anymore than the current crowd and B) the game of "EVE as we know it" is going to take a bit of an erratic run for awhile anyway. These things happen when senior devs quit/leave/find a better deal somewhere else.
Sigh.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Sir Substance
I N E X T R E M I S
Gentlemen's Agreement
613
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Posted - 2013.09.17 05:30:00 -
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Eve online will never go free to play.
The free to play maneuver is about building up player numbers.
It's done either because you are losing players (noone will play a game that noone else plays, so if people start leaving it forms a negative spiral, free to play can interrupt that), or because your business model is best served by huge numbers of players.
Whilst the latter sounds obvious and universally applicable, you must understand, Eve's business model does not revolve around large numbers of players.
Eve has a maximum user limit. Because it's on a single server, there's a hardware based cap on how many people it can service at once, and that cap is almost certainly lower then the influx of people we would see if eve went free to play.
Basically, if eve went free to play the only thing that would happen is it would crash the server, and everyone would leave because the server was perpetually unstable. To go free to play, eve would have to go multi-server, and then it wouldn't be eve.
Eve's secret sauce has always been in long term player retention. Eve doesn't need free to play. Keep wishing, it'll never happen.
Ishtar Starfire: As a pure caldari pilot i feel that with the deployment of the new tier 3 battlecruisers you have given an unfair advantage to everyone except caldari pilots. an example would be like giving a fat kid a whole cake while the skinny kid has to watch and get nothing.
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Just Lilly
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Posted - 2013.09.17 05:43:00 -
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Bots would go on a rampage, beyond the ever so watchful eyes of CCP Games.
And destroy the market in less than six months.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
820
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Posted - 2013.09.17 06:40:00 -
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well...
the thing is-...very interesting
"Also, your boobs  " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
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Jessi Burns
Yancey and Bruns Incorporated
0
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Posted - 2013.09.17 10:34:00 -
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I find the fear to be hilarious. Easy solution is new servers. Many people would migrate for a the feel of what it would be like to start from the beginning. People appear to think that eve would be invaded instantly by hundreds of thousands, but I don't. Eve is still the most difficult game to learn and play, so the likelihood of an invasion of noobs is very slim. |
Judith Frozenvoid
Cryogenic Consultancy
0
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Posted - 2013.09.17 10:43:00 -
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lock this thread it's dumb. |
ExcalibursTemplar
Citadel Enterprises
8
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Posted - 2013.09.17 11:11:00 -
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Considering I've just spent -ú180 subbing two accounts for the next 12 months id be extremely pissed of if eve turned free to play anytime soon.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
11691
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Posted - 2013.09.17 12:13:00 -
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EVE is already as "F2P" as it needs to be. Why on earth should CCP abandon the extremely successful, constructive, gameplay-supportive PLEX model for the discredited, corrupt pay-to-win model?
Because make no mistake, there would be absolutely no alternative to putting P2W in the cash shop if EVE went free to play. Either that or we'd see a huge reduction in the amount of resources that CCP could invest in the game. EVE players are notoriously pragmatic and result-focused (that's as nicely as I can put it) and the opportunitues for meaningful "vanity" products like avatar clothing are limited because as a rule, no one else sees them.
In order to replace the ~$7.5M/month that CCP get from subs and plex sales (and let's not forget that that figure has been steadily increasing this last couple of years), they'd need to sell a hell of a lot of monocles. I just don't see EVE players buying that many, month after month.
"Oh but Malc, what about those other games that went F2P and saw an increase in revenue?"
Well for one thing, those games were on life support and tanking hard. That "increase" was from a very low starting point. Meanwhile, EVE's subs have been increasing nicely.
And all those games sell things like experience potions or content unlocks that would be very ill-received by this community and classed as "P2W".
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
11691
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Posted - 2013.09.17 12:14:00 -
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Jessi Burns wrote:I find the fear to be hilarious. Easy solution is new servers. Many people would migrate for a the feel of what it would be like to start from the beginning. People appear to think that eve would be invaded instantly by hundreds of thousands, but I don't. Eve is still the most difficult game to learn and play, so the likelihood of an invasion of noobs is very slim.
Exactly. I don't think the sub fee is a big deal for the kind of people who play EVE.
1 Kings 12:11
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The VC's
Spack Force 5
156
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Posted - 2013.09.17 12:20:00 -
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Eve is already practically free to play if you play smart. The IQ barrier is a good thing. This game isn't for everyone.
One in five people are Chinese. There are five people in my family, so one must be Chinese. It's either my mum, my dad, my older brother Colin or my younger brother Ho-Cha-Chu. But I think it's Colin |
Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
192
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Posted - 2013.09.17 13:37:00 -
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PLEX is such an elegant solution for both 'F2P' and gold selling that they'd have to be completely mental to change it.
freelance space bum |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
2386
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Posted - 2013.09.17 13:41:00 -
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As if CCP really needs more people complaining that they should have not been able to be killed for doing something stupid.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
3404
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Posted - 2013.09.17 13:42:00 -
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Future EVE Online: NPC corp alts are not allowed to post on the forums, and badposters are permabanned for stupid ideas.
Standard moderation policies like this have proven to increase subscription rates by 25-40% in MMOs.
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Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
512
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Posted - 2013.09.17 13:43:00 -
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Jessi Burns wrote:I find the fear to be hilarious. Easy solution is new servers. Many people would migrate for a the feel of what it would be like to start from the beginning. People appear to think that eve would be invaded instantly by hundreds of thousands, but I don't. Eve is still the most difficult game to learn and play, so the likelihood of an invasion of noobs is very slim.
You have exactly zero clue about what you speak of. F2P is the death knell of games. Period. End of discussion. |
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