The bittervets and other old carebear people will quit the game. But instead for every one of them, eve online gets 30 free to play players (who would probably never pay or barely go for microtransactions).

F2P would kill eve, simple. It would be ruined by the microtransactions that would replace PLEX purchases and subscriptions. It would tank harder than SWTOR

I rather see a future with less trolls.

/c

Fewer.

OP, please biomass.

Time Titilation is a natural thing, as it will affect everyone, for the whole time

Let's talk about the good and bad stuff that comes with it.

For starters, I think the active eve population will go up, by a lot. Possible reaching 200.000 players on a normal day.

I also think, we will have 4~7 cloaky neutrals in every null sec system, that afk all day.

Jita will stil be limited to roughly 2000 players, but instead. The entire constellation will be nearly full. Reaching Jita would be impossible.

Suicide freighter ganks are more easily attained. As 1 guy could get 150 free to play accounts and use rifters to suicide on 1 Freighter.

The bittervets and other old carebear people will quit the game. But instead for every one of them, eve online gets 30 free to play players (who would probably never pay or barely go for microtransactions).

Time Dilation is a natural thing, as it will affect everyone, for the whole time. Fleet op Fights will probably resulting in a lot of server crashes.

But there are some good things too that come with it. We will have more people to play with! I, believe that eve online currently is a stable game, and due to this, will attract a lot of new players if it were to become free to play.

However the game will be changed so much, it won't be eve as we know it.

Let's talk about the good and bad stuff that comes with it.

http://elite.frontier.co.uk

If only Ian Bell was involved




Lets see, Braben's successes in the last 20 years





Kinectimals





that is all

Yeh I agree. But, take a look at the video. It looks good and lets face it, most of what we can see in eve can be traced back to elite.

I rather see a future with less trolls.

/c

"A future with less trolls is less likely than a future with no war." - Winston Churchill

Fewer.

Fever.

I see a future with fever trolls.

We'll have to use fire to put them down.

Let's talk about the good and bad stuff that comes with it.

For starters, I think the active eve population will go up, by a lot. Possible reaching 200.000 players on a normal day.

I also think, we will have 4~7 cloaky neutrals in every null sec system, that afk all day.

Jita will stil be limited to roughly 2000 players, but instead. The entire constellation will be nearly full. Reaching Jita would be impossible.

Suicide freighter ganks are more easily attained. As 1 guy could get 150 free to play accounts and use rifters to suicide on 1 Freighter.

The bittervets and other old carebear people will quit the game. But instead for every one of them, eve online gets 30 free to play players (who would probably never pay or barely go for microtransactions).

Time Dilation is a natural thing, as it will affect everyone, for the whole time. Fleet op Fights will probably resulting in a lot of server crashes.

But there are some good things too that come with it. We will have more people to play with! I, believe that eve online currently is a stable game, and due to this, will attract a lot of new players if it were to become free to play.

However the game will be changed so much, it won't be eve as we know it.

You guys are just scared of wallet warriors. Buying Titans in a deal package for $ 9.99.

How much do you cost?

I also think, we will have 4~7 cloaky neutrals in every null sec system, that afk all day.

This would be hilarious, but not worth the influx of Freetards.

BTW, your avatar just isn't the same without the massive boobs poking me in the eyes.

Let's talk about the good and bad stuff that comes with it.

But there are some good things too that come with it. We will have more people to play with!

However the game will be changed so much, it won't be eve as we know it.

I find the fear to be hilarious. Easy solution is new servers. Many people would migrate for a the feel of what it would be like to start from the beginning. People appear to think that eve would be invaded instantly by hundreds of thousands, but I don't. Eve is still the most difficult game to learn and play, so the likelihood of an invasion of noobs is very slim.

I find the fear to be hilarious. Easy solution is new servers. Many people would migrate for a the feel of what it would be like to start from the beginning. People appear to think that eve would be invaded instantly by hundreds of thousands, but I don't. Eve is still the most difficult game to learn and play, so the likelihood of an invasion of noobs is very slim.

Future EVE Online: NPC corp alts are not allowed to post on the forums, and badposters are permabanned for stupid ideas.

Standard moderation policies like this have proven to increase subscription rates by 25-40% in MMOs.

Many people would migrate for a the feel of what it would be like to start from the beginning.

Eve is already F2P. you just have to not be terrible at it.

Let's talk about the good and bad stuff that comes with it.

For starters, I think the active eve population will go up, by a lot. Possible reaching 200.000 players on a normal day.

I also think, we will have 4~7 cloaky neutrals in every null sec system, that afk all day.

Jita will stil be limited to roughly 2000 players, but instead. The entire constellation will be nearly full. Reaching Jita would be impossible.

Suicide freighter ganks are more easily attained. As 1 guy could get 150 free to play accounts and use rifters to suicide on 1 Freighter.

The bittervets and other old carebear people will quit the game. But instead for every one of them, eve online gets 30 free to play players (who would probably never pay or barely go for microtransactions).

Time Dilation is a natural thing, as it will affect everyone, for the whole time. Fleet op Fights will probably resulting in a lot of server crashes.

But there are some good things too that come with it. We will have more people to play with! I, believe that eve online currently is a stable game, and due to this, will attract a lot of new players if it were to become free to play.

However the game will be changed so much, it won't be eve as we know it.

Future EVE Online: NPC corp alts are not allowed to post on the forums, and badposters are permabanned for stupid ideas.

Standard moderation policies like this have proven to increase subscription rates by 25-40% in MMOs.

PLEX is such an elegant solution for both 'F2P' and gold selling that they'd have to be completely mental to change it.

You can't start from the beginning even on a new server. The current state of Eve is a product of people's skillpoints and the processes and events that caused them to train those skills. Having a second server be any kind of balanced would mean maintaining a second code base.

OP, please biomass.

This is such a good sentence that I'd like to give everyone the opportunity to enjoy reading it again.

I rather see a future with less trolls.

/c

I preferred Eve when peak was 4k players. It really was like the Wild West back then.

I failed very hard at playing it though. It's a lot easier now.

Considering I've just spent -ú180 subbing two accounts for the next 12 months id be extremely pissed of if eve turned free to play anytime soon.

Let's talk about the good and bad stuff that comes with it.

For starters, I think the active eve population will go up, by a lot. Possible reaching 200.000 players on a normal day.

I also think, we will have 4~7 cloaky neutrals in every null sec system, that afk all day.

Jita will stil be limited to roughly 2000 players, but instead. The entire constellation will be nearly full. Reaching Jita would be impossible.

Suicide freighter ganks are more easily attained. As 1 guy could get 150 free to play accounts and use rifters to suicide on 1 Freighter.

The bittervets and other old carebear people will quit the game. But instead for every one of them, eve online gets 30 free to play players (who would probably never pay or barely go for microtransactions).

Time Dilation is a natural thing, as it will affect everyone, for the whole time. Fleet op Fights will probably resulting in a lot of server crashes.

But there are some good things too that come with it. We will have more people to play with! I, believe that eve online currently is a stable game, and due to this, will attract a lot of new players if it were to become free to play.

However the game will be changed so much, it won't be eve as we know it.

it is already free to play

So PLEX magically appears from nowhere?
It might appear to be free to play, however extending game time with PLEX still involves somebody giving CCP real life cash, more so than a subscription.

The golden age (or should I call it the copper age) of F2P MMO's is nearing an end.

A couple years ago it was all the rage, but I think the end result of games like SW:TOR and LOTRO is that they are complete and utter failures.

EVE is already "free to play"

Pretty damn easy to make 500m in a month and buy a plex...Jus sayin.

I have, umm a few accounts and I have not payed for years, and I am NOT a miner or mission runner.

lrn2play kk

Same here.

Even more so as I would not be able to rage quit, well, not for almost twelve months

I don't understand why it has to be sub vs. F2P.

i'd be interested to see eve go free to log in, but still require plex to train things.

but it would arguably encourage people to reactivate inactive accounts.

Yes !
And a free, reactivated account has a higher possibility of resubbing than an inactive account. ^_^
Social interaction helps a lot to push too. ^_^

offering something to some people at varying cost (with the implicit, or occasionally ven explicit promise that if you spend more, you'll be better off than those who pay less).

No i'd rather kill myself then see this game go F2P.

Let's talk about the good and bad stuff that comes with it.

Sure, Jita will be capped almost 24/7, isn't it already? Honestly though, I don't think that it will get to the point where an entire constellation will be capped out. Maybe the trade routes between all the hubs will be much more crowded and a lot more dangerous... but as always players will adapt to the new conditions. As a bonus I can see new and old players alike using the other trade hubs a lot more, and for good or bad, the other trade hubs will probably become just like Jita.

This is actually a remarkable idea !

They'd have more people logged in, (which looks good at the login)
but these people barely consume ressources, as they can only ... what.

Well obviously ... chat. That's a great feature,
because a lot of people just log in to talk with their friends anyway.


But we could actually extend that...


"Shuttle" flights made by paying players, to move the "free" player around stations.
All usual dangers apply. The "free" player could be allowed to trade locally
and allowed to create courier contracts.

Obviously this means the free player also gains access to his wallet,
but he has only a very limited range of things to do with his ISK.

That way, the free player would still contribute to the sandbox,
but not consume a lot of ressources.



^_^



(this doesn't attract any new players at all, btw ...)

the joke is that eve is dying like an alliance trying to survive in Curse after losing its sov

A very large number of veteran players are really only training new skills because, well, you might as well. If people like me could continue playing for free at the expense of training skills, we'd do so in a heartbeat.

to risk being one of the few pro-F2P players.....

In a market becoming more and more saturated with the F2P model (some do it badly like SWTOR and some do it well like RIFT) it is a competitive disadvantage to not have the appearance of F2P long-term. You can blame tablet and phone games for starting this trend. However, I personally feel it will be needed (on some level) to bring in new blood into the Eve universe long-term.

I don't think a sub-based model will hurt the game over the next couple years. Past that? Yes, I do.

I think the patience required to develop a pilot will hinder most inactive, disinterested players. The ones that do like it, will benefit.

Again, I'd say use the current base-game as the F2P. ADD bonuses to encourage subscriptions.

But then again, I seem to be a minority regarding this topic. I just know you can't fight industry trends long-term and survive. The game needs to adapt. I play with a group of gamers (FPS, MMO, etc) that covers a lot of games. They always gravitate to F2P because they can play more titles.