Hello, complete newb here. Im trying to get a mental image of different pvp situations.

Im aware of gate camps, mining ganks, jita, mission, plex ganks. And feel comfortable whats happening here.

1) I have a vague idea that fw exists where missions are done and pvp happens but u take faction standing hits. Where do i signup for fw? After that a warp into a system and find what? Hundreds of frigates blowing each other up in a thunderdome setting? Please paint a picture for me. Im still working on my core competancy skills and building up a bank role to fund frigate losses. Reading and learning in the meantime.

2) ive heard about rvb. Where do i sign up and how does it differ from faction warfare? Whos running rvb? 2 corps that want to have fun...player generated content? Hows this pvp look....just 2 corps perpetually in wardec fighting across all of eve? Or thunderdome set for certain days?

3) i know some players go on solo/small gang roams looking for targets. They do this in low or null? Why arent they instantly curb stomped by the corp holding that space? How are they finding pvp ships to kill that dont instantly dock? Im not interested in killing afk miners(maybe that will change with time but doesnt seem to scratch the itch)

4) i know some players go on solo/gang roams in wh. Is this where almost all pvp happens on account of no local? So u get higher chance that target wont insta dock? Arent wh residents the most paranoid group. Watching the entrances for warp flashes. Bubbling the entrance. Spamming dscan with corpmates doing the same?


Im trying to get a picture of how the scene plays out so while im waiting for my skills i can gain as much theory knowldge as possible and shorten my learning curb for when i start flying and losing frigs

Someday i will jump in frig just to get blown up. But not until i have a clone so i dont lose my expensive attribute implants. Dont have 8 standing yet and im happy with my npc corp for now as far as joining a player corp to get a free clone spot. So anyone with the experience to paint a picture of how these pvp environments look?

Hello, complete newb here. Im trying to get a mental image of different pvp situations.

Im aware of gate camps, mining ganks, jita, mission, plex ganks. And feel comfortable whats happening here.

1) I have a vague idea that fw exists where missions are done and pvp happens but u take faction standing hits. Where do i signup for fw? After that a warp into a system and find what? Hundreds of frigates blowing each other up in a thunderdome setting? Please paint a picture for me. Im still working on my core competancy skills and building up a bank role to fund frigate losses. Reading and learning in the meantime.

- you can join the militia if your standings are good enough. or you can join a corp that is already involved in FW. Most folks recommend joining a FW corp. There are probably more fleet opportunities and more learning about PVP from a corp that is involved in it than joining the militia.

2) ive heard about rvb. Where do i sign up and how does it differ from faction warfare? Whos running rvb? 2 corps that want to have fun...player generated content? Hows this pvp look....just 2 corps perpetually in wardec fighting across all of eve? Or thunderdome set for certain days?

- put in app in to Red Federation or Blue Republic. They try to keep even numbers so they may tell you to join the other one. Its basically just two corps perpetually at war. They do have a few rules.

3) i know some players go on solo/small gang roams looking for targets. They do this in low or null? Why arent they instantly curb stomped by the corp holding that space? How are they finding pvp ships to kill that dont instantly dock? Im not interested in killing afk miners(maybe that will change with time but doesnt seem to scratch the itch)

- Null sec and low sec are both ripe for roams but low sec involves sec hits so some folks prefer not to do this. Null sec alliances do protect their space at times but often roaming gangs can get in to their space and kill folks and get out before they can effectively form up a defense gang to chase them off.

4) i know some players go on solo/gang roams in wh. Is this where almost all pvp happens on account of no local? So u get higher chance that target wont insta dock? Arent wh residents the most paranoid group. Watching the entrances for warp flashes. Bubbling the entrance. Spamming dscan with corpmates doing the same?

- If you scan out a worm hole from high sec it is possible to take a small gang in and kill someone mining or plexing in the wormhole. Members of my corp used to do this regularly when we lived in high sec. Now when we scan out wormholes we often use them to raid other parts of eve in small roaming gangs where you can get into enemy space undetected and unreported in their intel channels and kill a few people and then return home via the wormhole.

fw causes factoin hits right?

1) I have a vague idea that fw exists where missions are done and pvp happens but u take faction standing hits. Where do i signup for fw? After that a warp into a system and find what? Hundreds of frigates blowing each other up in a thunderdome setting? Please paint a picture for me. Im still working on my core competancy skills and building up a bank role to fund frigate losses. Reading and learning in the meantime.

3) i know some players go on solo/small gang roams looking for targets. They do this in low or null? Why arent they instantly curb stomped by the corp holding that space? How are they finding pvp ships to kill that dont instantly dock? Im not interested in killing afk miners(maybe that will change with time but doesnt seem to scratch the itch)

4) i know some players go on solo/gang roams in wh. Is this where almost all pvp happens on account of no local? So u get higher chance that target wont insta dock? Arent wh residents the most paranoid group. Watching the entrances for warp flashes. Bubbling the entrance. Spamming dscan with corpmates doing the same?

No no, im not saying join any of those corps. I am telling you to speak with the people in them, as they are some of the best in the business when it comes to small gang PvP

As i said earlier, It is varied.

1. High sec:

Go high sec warlording and duel people on stations. They have 3X links set up in system, and will have crazy fits set up with a merlin / other unassuming ship. high sec warloding goes all the way up to the big station gamers, sitting in vidicators worth 13+ bil. Its basically a big baby fest- and its pretty horrible pvp.

2. Null blocs

Go join a null sec corporation. There you get to join a fleet and press F1 when the FC tells you. You along with all of your corpies line up in battleships, and just like in the civil war have a war of attrition. Follow orders, participate in big 1000+ player battles. You will learn next to nothing about PvP, but you will be shooting things.

3. Faction Warfare

Here we have a group of people that like high sec players, will most likely have links and or extremely pimped out frigates designed to melt your new t1 ship. It is mostly a huge blob fest, and most factions are extremely risk averse. However there are some competent pilots to be found there if you look hard enough.

4. EvE Uni

A bunch of pompous fools who try and groom excited newbros for Nul corps. They will teach you how to blob ie (how to effectively kill 1/5 guys with 3/5 times their numbers.) Again you will not learn much in the way of PvP however many people end up being sucked into this hell hole.

5. RvB

Slightly blobby, but they are easily the best outfit when it comes to being in a environment where you will actually learn a thing or two. There are some good pilots that fly in here. Getting fights is pretty easy, and you can come across some 1v1's here and there. I would give it an A+

6. Low sec

Molden heath, and the area around molden is a nice place to grab some solo / small gang PvP. gunpoint lives there, along with uberlisk (king of the north) I am friends with both. Black rebel rifter club is also a nice small gang honorable frig corp- who used to base out of there as well. You will learn a lot from those guys. great small gang pvpers.

7. Nul sec entry systems:

Ec-PR, M-0 ext ext these systems are high / nul or lowsec / nul gates. if you jump onto the nul sec side, there will always be some kind of ****** gate camp there. you can get fights, but you need to be prepared. Expect recons, heavy blobbing, sniper Tier3 all the works.

8. Worm hole Space

Do not go in worm hole. It is a horrible pvp environment. Unless you are looking to gank noctis / miners stay out

9. Lifeless Low sec (IE. non FW space)

Nothing much to see here. You might run across a few insta death gate camps, but other than that It can be devoid of life for the most part.

10. Brave newbies

I have a lot of respect for these guys. I can't say much about there pvp skill or knowledge, but they certainly do bring a fight- and are not afraid to engage targets for the most part. While i wouldn't suggest joining them, if you can track down where they are basing out of- its a ton of fun fighting them.

11. Super high end PvP corps

Hatchery
Turn Left
Genos
Hydra
Aquila
and a few others i am forgetting about

If you can somehow get talking to the guys found in this environment, I highly suggest it. Most if not all of them have flown in alliance turnys, they have a ton of small gang pvp experience and are very knowledgeable about the game.

plex (plexi? Plexes?)

Hello, complete newb here. Im trying to get a mental image of different pvp situations.

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Im trying to get a picture of how the scene plays out so while im waiting for my skills i can gain as much theory knowldge as possible and shorten my learning curb for when i start flying and losing frigs

Hello, complete newb here. Im trying to get a mental image of different pvp situations.

Im aware of gate camps, mining ganks, jita, mission, plex ganks. And feel comfortable whats happening here.

1) I have a vague idea that fw exists where missions are done and pvp happens but u take faction standing hits. Where do i signup for fw? After that a warp into a system and find what? Hundreds of frigates blowing each other up in a thunderdome setting? Please paint a picture for me. Im still working on my core competancy skills and building up a bank role to fund frigate losses. Reading and learning in the meantime.

2) ive heard about rvb. Where do i sign up and how does it differ from faction warfare? Whos running rvb? 2 corps that want to have fun...player generated content? Hows this pvp look....just 2 corps perpetually in wardec fighting across all of eve? Or thunderdome set for certain days?

3) i know some players go on solo/small gang roams looking for targets. They do this in low or null? Why arent they instantly curb stomped by the corp holding that space? How are they finding pvp ships to kill that dont instantly dock? Im not interested in killing afk miners(maybe that will change with time but doesnt seem to scratch the itch)

4) i know some players go on solo/gang roams in wh. Is this where almost all pvp happens on account of no local? So u get higher chance that target wont insta dock? Arent wh residents the most paranoid group. Watching the entrances for warp flashes. Bubbling the entrance. Spamming dscan with corpmates doing the same?


Im trying to get a picture of how the scene plays out so while im waiting for my skills i can gain as much theory knowldge as possible and shorten my learning curb for when i start flying and losing frigs

Well you both warp scramble each other and whoever trolls the other person more wins.

4. EvE Uni

A bunch of pompous fools who try and groom excited newbros for Nul corps. They will teach you how to blob ie (how to effectively kill 1/5 guys with 3/5 times their numbers.) Again you will not learn much in the way of PvP however many people end up being sucked into this hell hole.

The KB says you are not trolling well enough.

I can't tell you the large difference between brave newbies / RvB when compared to IVY. IVY is like some old smelly cheese you forgot in the back of your fridge for a few months. While RvB / Brave is like that new Brie cheese you have been saving for that extra special event.

Set up an off grid safe approximately 30-45 degrees off of an asteroid belt at 200 and say 600. Just like fishing; crack open a beer, and wait for your D-scan to pop up. De-cloak, warp and kill any damn thing that lands regardless the type. The warp helps eat the time for your scram to work again, and you aren't giving away your intention by dropping combat probes. I think I've learned more meaningful things regarding ship capabilities by jumping my sometimes woefully inadequate ship into the fray.

Solo for me kind of sucks, but that's probably because I'm ****** at finding and hunting down the other guy in local. In that situation, I try to **** up local to see if a fight comes out of it. Conversely, sometimes I like warping to a belt with a neutral in it and align away, hoping that I can bait them into aggressing. Obviously, that doesn't work if you have a **** tank, ship mismatch, or if you're a kiter.

Why an off grid safe when ur hunting for pvp? Why not warp to anywhere already in system?

Why 30-45 degrers?

Why 200 and 600?

When u say wait for dscn to pop up u are looking for what? A miner? Someone passing thru? How u find them without probes?

Why do u have to wait for ur scram to work? Do u mean wait for ur lock to work after decloak?

If ur **** at solo because u cant find people from local what was all this advice? Group?

[quote=Chessur]

11. Super high end PvP corps

Hatchery
Turn Left
Genos
Hydra
Aquila
and a few others i am forgetting about

If you can somehow get talking to the guys found in this environment, I highly suggest it. Most if not all of them have flown in alliance turnys, they have a ton of small gang pvp experience and are very knowledgeable about the game.

I'm still not considered ~elite~

I'm still not considered ~elite~

On a more serious note I wouldn't ask ~elite~ PvPers how to PvP because it's:

-Not something that can be taught
-If you really have no idea how to PvP you won't really gain anymore than from talking to the average PvPer
-If you don't know much about PvP you can't gain from their expertise as you have no understanding of core concepts

This game requires heavy experimentation in order to find what you enjoy doing in it. Once you have found your play style then you should talk to someone more skilled than you with the same play style to gain knowledge. Otherwise, you're going to get the same 5 answers from everyone (i.e. "Fit up 50 frigates and get them blown up" and "Join RvB" and "If you try and solo you will get blobbed and it sucks").

Also, hydra is an alliance in which genos is a corp of. May want to learn your ~elite~ corps before you recommend them to someone.