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COUGAR ONE
Resistance Network
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:04:00 -
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Yea but no thanks,
I know u got the big battle going on in fountain.
But why in the heck do we have to suffer way over in wicked creek. 13 % time dilation is unplayable. Great just hit 10%.
anyways tell me his isnt how its going to be for every major battle that comes out.
Cougar One
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2105
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:10:00 -
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I rather have a node death. At least then I know it's time to play something else.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Tubrug1
Wormhole Engineers
Greater Realms
211
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:12:00 -
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Why should we spend our time reading your post when you can't spend your time writing 'you' instead of 'u'.
Writer of The Eve Onion
http://eveion.blogspot.co.uk/
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COUGAR ONE
Resistance Network
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:13:00 -
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Tubrug1 wrote:Why should we spend our time reading your post when you can't spend your time writing 'you' instead of 'u'.
weak |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
5402
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:15:00 -
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Move to another system temporarily. Really just do it. Some systems share the same hardware, so some will always share the load with heavily stressed systems and that load can't be predicted in advance or reacted to in a way, that no one else gets affected. It will happen, it will continue to happen and this time it was your system's turn to suffer. You don't have to continue to suffer with it. Just move your ass. |
Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis
Expoit This Mf's
79
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:17:00 -
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COUGAR ONE wrote:Yea but no thanks,
I know u got the big battle going on in fountain.
But why in the heck do we have to suffer way over in wicked creek. 13 % time dilation is unplayable. Great just hit 10%.
anyways tell me his isnt how its going to be for every major battle that comes out.
Cougar One
Dude.....I think we were separated at birth......... |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
847
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:21:00 -
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I remember the good, old days when we'd get 100 people on a node and the node would just poop itself and every system on it would crash and burn.
Good times.
Toshiro Ozuwara > GOon cowards come fight
Toshiro Ozuwara > Oh wait, you only camp when you got numberssss
I would fully support account bans by ccp for meta type stuff like this. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2797
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:24:00 -
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COUGAR ONE wrote:
anyways tell me his isnt how its going to be for every major battle that comes out.
It's always been this way for every major fleet battle because of how CCP's server code works, there are multiple systems sharing the same node (CPU), and systems on teh same node aren't necessarily in the same constellation.
You have a choice, Time Dilation, or node crash. CCP believes the former is the better solution.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Praetor Meles
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
140
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:37:00 -
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I'm sure that we can all agree that it would be much better spending the evening in A&E being treated for burns to your hands from the flames coming out of your keyboard (while someone picks glass from your exploded monitor out of your eyes and torso), than it would be having the game slow down via time dilation for a while.
[insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*
* delete as required to make your point |
KracKstar
Nintendo Power
Against ALL Authorities
105
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:08:00 -
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pleas EA fix our servers CCP brokes them |
KracKstar
Nintendo Power
Against ALL Authorities
105
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:09:00 -
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Praetor Meles wrote:I'm sure that we can all agree that it would be much better spending the evening in A&E being treated for burns to your hands from the flames coming out of your keyboard (while someone picks glass from your exploded monitor out of your eyes and torso), than it would be having the game slow down via time dilation for a while.
i disagree actually. it has saved me in many a battle. so in someways its great |
Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
2477
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:10:00 -
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You just gotta deal with it until brain in a box is figured out.
Jita is the only system that has it's own node so you're gonna have to share with everyone else. If that means you get TiDi cause one of the other systems on the same node as you is having a big fight then so be it.
DEAL WITH IT.
From what I understand Brain in a Box might be able to let the server moves information between nodes much better or something.
The Drake is a Lie |
Varesk
Origin.
Black Legion.
423
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:44:00 -
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COUGAR ONE wrote:Tubrug1 wrote:Why should we spend our time reading your post when you can't spend your time writing 'you' instead of 'u'. weak Cougar One
I noticed in the OP you signed your post, but the second post you forgot to sign it. so i fixed it for you. sorta killing carriers and stuff in TiDi. |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
469
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:09:00 -
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>Doesn't know how systems are seperated over Nodes
>Complains about said Nodes
Welcome to War. And War is Hell. |
Implying Implications
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
396
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:15:00 -
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You would even be complaining here if there was no tidi because the node you are on would have died.
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Test Alliance Please Ignore
197
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:19:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:You have a choice, Time Dilation, or node crash. CCP believes the former is the better solution.
Actually, we don't have a choice.
And CCP leans on tidi instead of improving their infrastructure. There is no other game I know of that regularly subjects their users to 1/10th game speed during the best parts of the game (big fleet battles).
Frankly, if I was CCP I would be ashamed of tidi and/or coding practices that lead to a game that can't scale.
Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Sun Win
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:21:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: And CCP leans on tidi instead of improving their infrastructure. There is no other game I know of that regularly subjects their users to 1/10th game speed during the best parts of the game (big fleet battles).
You're right! CCP should take steps to make sure we have lag-free 2,000 player fights, like in such games as |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2106
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:25:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Actually, we don't have a choice.
And CCP leans on tidi instead of improving their infrastructure. There is no other game I know of that regularly subjects their users to 1/10th game speed during the best parts of the game (big fleet battles).
Frankly, if I was CCP I would be ashamed of tidi and/or coding practices that lead to a game that can't scale.
Better infrastructure isn't even invented yet.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Test Alliance Please Ignore
197
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:30:00 -
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Sun Win wrote:You're right! CCP should take steps to make sure we have lag-free 2,000 player fights, like in such games as
This is a lowest common denominator argument. Think it over again.
Abrazzar wrote:Better infrastructure isn't even invented yet.
Tell that to the NSA.
Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:36:00 -
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Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:>Doesn't know how systems are seperated over Nodes
>Complains about said Nodes
Welcome to War. And War is Hell.
Why are you trying to greentext on the EvEO forums? |
Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
35
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:36:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Doc Fury wrote:You have a choice, Time Dilation, or node crash. CCP believes the former is the better solution.
Actually, we don't have a choice. And CCP leans on tidi instead of improving their infrastructure. There is no other game I know of that regularly subjects their users to 1/10th game speed during the best parts of the game (big fleet battles). Frankly, if I was CCP I would be ashamed of tidi and/or coding practices that lead to a game that can't scale.
There is no other MMO I know who responds to the problem of "too many people wanting to be in the same place" with "lets figure out how to let more people in".
All the other MMOs just slap population caps on everything to keep the population too low to cause problems.
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Tell that to the NSA.
The NSA can split their activities over many pieces of hardware much easier than CCP can. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Test Alliance Please Ignore
197
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:37:00 -
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Let me explain why tidi is bad.
So you're in a system. Local escalates. Smartbombs and Bombs start going off (AOE calculations). Tidi kicks in.
If anything of value is on the field, as right now the entire Test cap fleet, everyone in surrounding systems ships up and piles in.
As more ships pile in, tidi gets worse. And the worse it gets, the more people reship and the more people pile in, keeping tidi at basically a completely unplayable level.
Tidi is a solution for crashing, it's not a solution for gameplay.
Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
174
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:37:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:I rather have a node death. At least then I know it's time to play something else.
Well you just got your wish granted. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Test Alliance Please Ignore
197
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:38:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:There is no other MMO I know who responds to the problem of "too many people wanting to be in the same place" with "lets figure out how to let more people in".
Lowest common denominator argument again.
Hesod Adee wrote:The NSA can split their activities over many pieces of hardware much easier than CCP can.
Well, I obviously don't have your technical expertise and insight into the NSAs hardware systems.
Tell us more.
Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians
Fidelas Constans
130
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:41:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Hesod Adee wrote:There is no other MMO I know who responds to the problem of "too many people wanting to be in the same place" with "lets figure out how to let more people in". Lowest common denominator argument again. Hesod Adee wrote:The NSA can split their activities over many pieces of hardware much easier than CCP can. Well, I obviously don't have your technical expertise and insight into CCP and the NSAs hardware systems. Tell us more.
Well, for one the NSA got lots more funds from the goverment and probably access to military grade hardware.
Not that it matters anymore, seems TEST is not going to bother logging on when the server gets back up so they won't lose their caps. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
284
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:42:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:I rather have a node death. At least then I know it's time to play something else.
Welp we managed that too
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Jaan Thiesant
Boinas Rojas
Gentlemen's Agreement
11
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:43:00 -
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"Your character is located within Z9PP-H, which is currently loading. Please try again in a moment."
ffs
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
284
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:00:00 -
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So CCP remapped the node with a 2000 man fight going.
Keep it classy CCP WTF |
Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
35
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:00:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Hesod Adee wrote:There is no other MMO I know who responds to the problem of "too many people wanting to be in the same place" with "lets figure out how to let more people in". Lowest common denominator argument again.
CCP has three choices regarding too many people wanting to be in system:
- Population caps.
- Time dilation.
- Node death.
If there is another option, please tell us what it is.
If you want population caps, go play another MMO. Any other MMO.
Quote:Hesod Adee wrote:The NSA can split their activities over many pieces of hardware much easier than CCP can. Well, I obviously don't have your technical expertise and insight into the NSAs hardware systems. Tell us more.
It all comes down to Parallel computing. Eve Online server processes are too dependent on each other for it to be possible to split a system across multiple hardware nodes. So one CCP have a node sitting on the best hardware possible, adding extra hardware does nothing.
At the other extreme you have decrypting through brute force. Get yourself a bunch of computers, assign each computer a block of passwords to try. Then the computers don't need to communicate with each other at all until one computer hits the correct password. So if your current hardware is insufficient, you can throw more hardware at it till it competes. Even if each computer you add is a piece of crap, you can keep adding them till they outperform a single top of the line machine.
Then you have to consider budget constraints. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Test Alliance Please Ignore
204
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
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Hesod, I didn't read your post. I am trying to figure out how to extract my pod out of Z9PP
Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
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