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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.12.03 03:17:00 -
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Just watched Irreversible... Any of you that have already seen it will understand what I mean when I say that it is probably the most brutal and uncompromising film of the last few decades... it really is a breathtaking masterpiece...
All I can say is "Watch it!" if you have not already and make sure you watch it on a large screen with a good sound system, bass up and the lights switched out... Only then will you be able to truly experience it...
Once again, the name of the film is 'Irreversible'
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.12.03 04:07:00 -
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If it's designed to disturb and disgust, that's an excellent reason not to watch it. If I want disturbing, I'll watch a documentary; at least that'll be based in truth. Films are for *entertainment*.
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Mr Floppyknickers
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Posted - 2005.12.03 04:13:00 -
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yo Beeftation, what is the move about? Is it simply random gory imagary or is there a story to engage in?
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.12.03 04:22:00 -
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There is a story to engage in which starts at the end and runs in reverse until the end of the film (which btw works well and adds to it). The acting and filming as well as the spinny camera work, characters and a couple of nasty scenes near the beginning of the film (end of the story) make it frighteningly believable and the starange way it works is that you get to know the characters in the last half of the film rather than the beginning... really tough to explain... but yes there is a chillingly intelligent but very nasty storyline to it. No monsters or big bad serial killers, just humans...
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.12.03 05:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
If it's designed to disturb and disgust, that's an excellent reason not to watch it. If I want disturbing, I'll watch a documentary; at least that'll be based in truth. Films are for *entertainment*.
That is not actually true, in fact the original purpose of film and films was to educate and stimulate the mind. There are many different uses for films including etertainment, therapy, education, promotion etc... so it is a little blind to simply watch only films that make you feel good or have a happy ending as that gives one an unrealistic outlook on life.
Also, there are many truths in such films, especially this one. Personally, although i do like a good documentary, I find they only tend to deal with the aftermath or a wide view on a subject or peoples and as such are very rarely disturbing and also I find tend to offer what they sum up as a one sided truth to the scenario etc that the documentary covers. This usually boils down to who the narator and his/her team believes is at fault, what should be done, what everyone must have been thinking or doing etc and all this is from their limited experience, from an onlookers perspective.
I believe that for something to be truly shocking and disturbing it has to depict first hand an experience or experiences in an unforgivingly real and entire way. This is where this film succeeds and hence shocks.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.12.03 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
If it's designed to disturb and disgust, that's an excellent reason not to watch it. If I want disturbing, I'll watch a documentary; at least that'll be based in truth. Films are for *entertainment*.
That is not actually true, in fact the original purpose of film and films was to educate and stimulate the mind.
True, but the definition has long since changed. Things on film, which are designed to do this, are now called documentaries. "Films" is a term reserved for items of fiction.
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.12.03 05:37:00 -
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Edited by: Princess Beefcurtains on 03/12/2005 05:38:23
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Princess Beefcurtains
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
If it's designed to disturb and disgust, that's an excellent reason not to watch it. If I want disturbing, I'll watch a documentary; at least that'll be based in truth. Films are for *entertainment*.
That is not actually true, in fact the original purpose of film and films was to educate and stimulate the mind.
True, but the definition has long since changed. Things on film, which are designed to do this, are now called documentaries. "Films" is a term reserved for items of fiction.
Not true either, take Koyaanisqatsi and Powaqatsi for example, they are films of life, but not documentarys. The word Film itself means many different things, it does not have simply 1 meaning as you suggest. In large parts of america, what the majority here in the UK would call a film is termed as a movie, movie being a newer term adopted for a fictional or mass produced production. The term 'Film' or 'Films' however is a very broad term which encapsulates moving images as a whole eg: a film, to film etc or camera film, it does not have one reserved meaning.
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2005.12.03 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Lardarz B''stard on 03/12/2005 08:31:35
Irreversible is a wicked film.
Its one of those rare films that actually shocks you, a lot.
The bit in the subway with Monica Bellucci is just brutal.
Thomas Bangalter soundtrack is good too.
Most continental European films tend to be utter overpretencious carp, but this one, Etre Et Avoir, and Run Lola Run really stand out as something a bit special.
Having said that, I also liked Taxi and Taxi 2.
Watch it.
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Finix Jaeger
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Posted - 2005.12.03 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Finix Jaeger on 03/12/2005 11:50:01
Edited by: Finix Jaeger on 03/12/2005 11:48:38
I've seen it and I agree that its probably the most brutal movie I have ever seen...
But none the less, its also one of the best movies I've seen and is happily sitting in my DVD collection.
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Firestarterr
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Posted - 2005.12.03 21:50:00 -
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Edited by: Firestarterr on 03/12/2005 21:52:28
After reading everyones opinion in reviews and critics walking out blah blah etc, i watched the two clips which everyone finds disturbing and came to the conclusion either everyone's a wuss or I may need some help.
The guy getting his arm broken in the club just made me laugh. The fire extinguisher scene smashing the guys face in repeatedly was just stupid imo, not really scary but more for shock value. He should have been dead after about 4 hits anyway but was still alive for again shock value. The stupid look on his face during it just pretty much summed up the scene for me.
The subway scene was just tedious.
Despite my comments, dont watch it if you are emotionally sensitive or can't handle very graphic violence.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.12.03 23:10:00 -
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I just watched Land of the Dead. It doesn't take itself as seriously as Irreversible, which I've seen, but if you want to experience the world's most nauseating unmitigated onslaught of glistening screaming gore, watch this movie. Seeing a zombie pull a guy's guts out through his mouth while another snacks out of a smashed skull like it was a pupu platter almost turned my stomach, and I've seen some nasty things in my life. Best zombie flick ever.
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Saeris Tal'Urduar
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Posted - 2005.12.04 00:56:00 -
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Edited by: Saeris Tal''Urduar on 04/12/2005 00:57:40
Land of the Dead was just a horrid movie.
It had some good gore, but the fact he turn it into a "F' the rich and they are the real zomies feeding off the poor."
Bull****!
I didnt want to watch a damn morality play.
I so loved his Night of the Living Dead, was well thought out and very entertaining horror movie.
He took a few BIG steps down as a good writter/director of horror movies because of that piece of crap that he call a movie.
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2005.12.04 01:22:00 -
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The most disturbing movie I've ever seen was a japanese movie called tetsuo the iron man. I have no clue wtf its about but it gave me nightmares.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.12.04 02:10:00 -
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Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 04/12/2005 02:11:17
Originally by: Saeris Tal'Urduar
Edited by: Saeris Tal''Urduar on 04/12/2005 00:57:40
Land of the Dead was just a horrid movie.
It had some good gore, but the fact he turn it into a "F' the rich and they are the real zomies feeding off the poor."
Bull****!
I didnt want to watch a damn morality play.
I so loved his Night of the Living Dead, was well thought out and very entertaining horror movie.
He took a few BIG steps down as a good writter/director of horror movies because of that piece of crap that he call a movie.
You approach zombie movies with far too much intellectualism. Zombie movies are not meant to carry profound moral statements, they are meant to show you zombies gnawing the crap out of screaming normals, and shambling around, groaning, draped in their steaming gizzards.
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Saeris Tal'Urduar
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Posted - 2005.12.04 02:34:00 -
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Edited by: Saeris Tal''Urduar on 04/12/2005 02:35:30
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
You approach zombie movies with far too much intellectualism. Zombie movies are not meant to carry profound moral statements., they are meant to show you zombies gnawing the crap out of screaming normals, and shambling around, groaning, draped in their steaming gizzards.
No dont you see he made it that way, I was so looking forward to learning what happened after Night of the Living Dead.
And he gave us some kind of political/moral statement for a movie instead.
Thats why I'm so p*ssed off about it.
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Princess Beefcurtains
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Posted - 2005.12.04 03:14:00 -
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Thanks for your comments so far, its interesting to see what you have to say 
Other films to watch are:
Itchi The Killer
The Audition
I Spit On Your Grave
As for the guy who said he watched 'the scenes', you have to watch the whole film to get the full effect and the low freq noise played for the 1st 20 minutes + the unsetteling atmosphere portrayed leading up to the scenes is what makes the scenes potent, not just the scenes themselves.
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Benilopax
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Posted - 2005.12.04 04:07:00 -
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The Romero movies have always had moral issues. And each film is a dipiction of the punishment of man by the attack of the dead.
Night of the living.... was about race, Dawn of... Was about capitalism, Land of.... about exploitation of the poor.
Each film commented on political and social situations of the time.
The increasing levels of gore also show how people have gotten used to violence over the years.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.12.04 23:19:00 -
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sounds like Momento
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kendo Collins
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:17:00 -
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Thought Eraserhead was pretty disturbing dont know if it qualifies as a classic tho |
Lluthiunne Atalaron
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Posted - 2005.12.05 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kyozoku
The most disturbing movie I've ever seen was a japanese movie called tetsuo the iron man. I have no clue wtf its about but it gave me nightmares.
Tetsuo: Iron Man, i remember that, if i'am correct it was a simple story about a man who self hurts. The opening scene were he cuts open his leg introduces it to an iron bar then some hungry hungry maggots, which is bizzare and very disturbing in its own right, but as disturbing as him then realizing what hes done and hobbling through the streets screaming. It has my vote as most disturbing movie by far.
The most disturbing things in life are always aspects of human nature. When it is shown at its most primitavely brutal state it will always shock in a far more gutteral way than say a 'zombie' eating some guys head. We have built up this thing called civilization and have all around us a nice safe society. We dont like to see that being *****ed open by someone commiting obscene acts of violence and then explaining themselves with comments like 'I'am who i'am' while maintaining a stoic expression.
Those films or other pieces of 'art' can horrify and disturb far more than said zombie on a brain binge.
P.S. Tetsuo: Iron Man is similar to the work of H.R. Giger if that helps they are both about the same thing.
Now if you dont mind i have a hankering for some brains now. slurp.
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Yama Booshi
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Posted - 2005.12.05 14:20:00 -
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Another fine piece of stunning cinematic work would be this
Music by Aphex Twin.
Warprecords FTW!
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Coeleth
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Posted - 2005.12.08 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Yama Booshi
Another fine piece of stunning cinematic work would be this
Music by Aphex Twin.
Warprecords FTW!
Superb.
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2005.12.08 20:28:00 -
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I thought that was suposed to be scary. 
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Sira Tharchon
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Posted - 2005.12.08 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
If it's designed to disturb and disgust, that's an excellent reason not to watch it. If I want disturbing, I'll watch a documentary; at least that'll be based in truth. Films are for *entertainment*.
The Grotesque is a major taught branch of film. It caters to the human desire to see deformity and abnormality. Grotesque films can still be extremely entertaining.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2005.12.09 00:07:00 -
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Thing is with a zombie movie, or any horror movie for that matter is that you can take it all with a pinch of salt. A film like Irreversible is different because it is very much in and of the real world. Like most people, I have seen plenty of violence in films, but nothing with quite the visceral punch to the guts that Irreversible had.
Because it's quite clearly about a sickening act that begets a series of further sickening acts and a general degredation of all the people involved. Emotionally, it's so close to home that it has a far greater impact than anything you see in most other kinds of film. That could so easily be your girlfriend. You could quite easily respond the way the guy does.
I did actually feel nauseous watching this. The violence was a factor, but the camera work, the sound and the lighting are carefully calculated to make you feel queasy. I thought that aspect was a bit of a cheap trick, personally, but it was definitely effective.
This film is as depressing as Requiem for a Dream, so don't bother with the popcorn.  Nonetheless, it is a fine piece of work. The backwards storytelling is effective, although the ending (which is really the beginning) really compounds the depressing nature of the film. It is a truly beautiful moment that should be uplifting after the grimy reality of the rest of the piece, yet even that beauty is soiled. This definitely isn't for everyone, but fans of uncompromising material will want to see it.
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EVENFLOW
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Posted - 2005.12.09 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: EVENFLOW on 09/12/2005 09:52:40
Edited by: EVENFLOW on 09/12/2005 09:52:19
Originally by: Wanoah
This film is as depressing as Requiem for a Dream
*Cringes* That movie is disturbing, slightly more than American History X.
Did Irreversible come out in 2k2 or 2k4, i'm seeing 2 different flicks by the same name.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2005.12.09 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Wanoah on 09/12/2005 12:42:44
It's this one: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290673/
Not sure what the 2004 one is.
Heh, just been reading the trivia on IMDB.
Originally by: "IMDB"
The first 30 minutes of the film has a background noise with a frequency of 28Hz (low frequency, almost inaudible), similar to the noise produced by an earthquake. In humans, it causes nausea, sickness and vertigo. It was the main cause of people walking out of the theaters during the first part of the film in places like Cannes and San Sebastian. In fact, it was added with the purpose of getting this reaction.
No wonder this film made me feel a bit unwell!
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EVENFLOW
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Posted - 2005.12.09 12:52:00 -
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Cool, ty
Honor > Death
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Yama Booshi
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Posted - 2005.12.09 13:57:00 -
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People who like the movies mentioned above, might also be interested in Spun
I thought it was brilliant anyway.
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Celticjim
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Posted - 2005.12.09 14:29:00 -
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"The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her lover" There is just something about that belly button scene that haunts me to this day 15 years later. Great movie, and the scene in and of itself is pretty tame by today's standards, but it creeped the bejesus out of me back then and continues to this day.
CJ
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