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"Invest in a clear path that is PVP oriented and you will have no trouble making ISK."

Did you mean "PVE"?

All fortunes are made in Jita local.

*Makes "Solo guide of how to make ISK"*

*Yells out in caps "DO NOT SALVAGE!!!"*

Stopped reading right there considering I made my first Billion on a "solo" character by salvaging/looting all my own wrecks and was able to build all my own ammo with the items I reprocessed and was in lvl 4 missions as soon as I had the skills trained to fly a battleship without having to buy a ton of faction-fit loot pinata stuffing.

Something I learned from being in a null corp: salvage, salvage, salvage.

What you don't waste = what you don't need to buy (or have shipped and possibly lose).

*Makes "Solo guide of how to make ISK"*

*Yells out in caps "DO NOT SALVAGE!!!"*

Stopped reading right there considering I made my first Billion on a "solo" character by salvaging/looting all my own wrecks and was able to build all my own ammo with the items I reprocessed and was in lvl 4 missions as soon as I had the skills trained to fly a battleship without having to buy a ton of faction-fit loot pinata stuffing.

So your telling n00bs not to take that forty million just sitting in that L3 Boss wreck? I dont think you quite know what you are on about..You mentioned the scorp, without saying how useless the normal version is for L4s. Dafuq..

LOLWUT? OP trying to create new darwins in this game?

Also what others have already said: Dominix is currently king of mission running in terms of cost/effectiveness. 800 eft dps from Garde II on 85-99km optimal is not a joke.

Another mis-informed and possible troll.

Just come back in with a Noctis for clean-up after the fact.

Looting with both Salvagers and Salvage Drones...............takes maybe 4 minutes per pocket.

Im sorry i cant remember the specific mission but there is one.

You have not.

And I'm talking about Salvaging.

And yes, you Troll. Bye bye now.

You're also forgetting mining in missions.

When each load of even veldspar = 3.7 million ISK, and you have m-a-n-y loads.

A level 2 mission I was on had over 6,000,000 veldspar alone. The missions with even better ore, you're pulling in over 40mil.

So if you're just want to get faction standing up quick, yeah blitz. But for making ISK, there's plenty of ways even in missions to walk way with over 40 million ISK, and they're not level 4s.

It's a solo guide about making ISK, not blitzing missions for standings.

My advice for a newbie looking to make isk is train astrometrics to like 4 and salvage to like 3 and then go to a system with a level 3/4 security agent and scan down all the missions done by people who follow the above guide and salvage everything.
It takes like less than a week to train and you don't need to grind standings or play for hours or nothing.

You're welcome.

And no one leveling to get into a battleship (quick) is going to survive it.

To use a battleship you need all the necessary skills or waste about 300 million ISK each time your ship is blown up (why folks will consider you a troll too).

Skill training takes time, and there's no way to get around it.

Which is why so many stay at level 3s if doing security runs, until they get those skills (or run level 4 distribution missions).

So if you're going to have to wait, make some ISK. Their standings will be 6.67+ (if they trained the social skills) before they get to level 4s, and can have all the salvage ready to make whatever they need...ammo, modules, weapons and buying more skill books. Pure profit, zero loss and their skills be leveled well to then just blitz level 4s.

I make more ISK just mining in missions than the missions itself offers (you're not going to get escalated missions -- that drop officer loot -- every run anyway). Gotten the standings to refine with zero tax and can built with zero tax. Now can refine it perfectly. So bulk ore that I got now is worth a mint if I sold it. Or I can turn it around and build battleships by the 10s (I have a lot of ore).

You can keep your occasional officer drops, I can mission and mine and make more money, and if I need the officer drops I can go get them latter too. Even MORE ISK!

quicker training: train a sniper fit BS and get a microjump. Skip all tank and go full DPS. Kill everything in seconds. Bonus points for sentry drones to save on ammo costs.

1. To get to lvl 4 missions the guide is correct, don't loot/salvage, blitz missions and do them as fast as possible. You need standing, thats the ONLY goal.

2. there is a simple rule for looting: doing missons fast = loot is less valuable

i can prove this acutally, but i won't show you mission-names (you can figure that out for yourself):

This is a nightmare faction fit + noctis mission table. You can see that most lvl4 missions are not worth looting, and quite a few are worth blitzing.

Oh, btw, before you get watery eyes, this is near the top end of missioning, regular lvl4 missioning gives less ISK. Hardcore missioning means to ONLY do the best missions out of the list and ignore all the others (high faction standing needed).

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47230747/Missions.png

EDIT: just to be clear, all value is included, LPs (1/1000), loot - % for time selling/transport, so yea, its a complete picture.

Which you can do faster if you bother to level the social skills, too.

To be a mission runner you have to have all the necessary skills to run them. Just like in incursions, PvEing takes more skills and more advanced skills. Skills that takes a good l-o-n-g time to train.

The fault here is, you're making a guide for players who already are leveled.

If they don't know how to make ISK by doing missions by now, they don't mission!

Which leaves the guide for newbies, and giving advice about running level 4s ASAP is how they'll get frustrated and leave the game, when their new shiny battleship they can so easily get into, is destroyed at 170 million ISK a piece. Why? Because they didn't have the necessary side skills to stay afloat.

This isn't PvP. PvE takes longer to train into. When a player can blitz through level 4s he will have more skills trained than a lot of PvP players, just to survive them.

That's trolling.

Honey, the assets I'm kept for years have only increased it's value. The assets I have are BPOs, and some well researched BPOs at that.

So go ahead and think that battleship is worth something. My ore can make them by the 10s.

All that I salvaged can make those modules selling for 40 million a piece (and how much did you get for your chance officer loot again? 120 or make 250 million at that?).

Making ISK is planning your future. And you can be but a mission runner that skims the top, but the mission runner who plays wisely will come out with billions of ISK.

There is not a time I have not made back the cost of a BPO on the first manufacturing run. And made with the BPO, not copies.

Please, again, just stop posting, for you know not what you say.

It's true. You don't buy BPOs to waste on buying copies. You buy them and research them to sell copies to folks like you.

that's BS
Train salvage drones and have one salvaging while you Fight, that adds 1m per hour mining up to 20+ mill per hour while doing lvl 4s
1 less attack drone won't hurt

Also do all the schools for your race, they will be 3 in different system, look them up fly to them and do them each time even tho they are the same for more faction points, then do the data center missions (buy tags out of jita before you do - google for why) then do the comso missions for your race (take a battle cruiser), you will gain faster faction point in that order

I have a repper Domi that does all that DPS and can lock at 102km (warden IIs) and can run 3 reppers with the sacrifice of some tank. I realize that this is a thread for newbies, but training for a mission Domi will lead to even more Domitastic builds. A very good choice for your money making pathway. You can branch into other stuff once you have an established way to farm ISK.

I agree that you should not loot L1-L3 missions while training up your new toon. But L4s are worth it IMO. Maybe somebody already said this, but you can let your salvage drones mop up wrecks while you loot the BSs from the mission. It's efficient if you pay attention to a "looting route". And whoever said to leave the garbage for the buzzards was correct too - it's not so effcicient to loot ALL wrecks - cherry pick for best profits overall.

Have fun getting rich !

I have a repper Domi that does all that DPS and can lock at 102km (warden IIs) and can run 3 reppers with the sacrifice of some tank. I realize that this is a thread for newbies, but training for a mission Domi will lead to even more Domitastic builds. A very good choice for your money making pathway. You can branch into other stuff once you have an established way to farm ISK.

I agree that you should not loot L1-L3 missions while training up your new toon. But L4s are worth it IMO. Maybe somebody already said this, but you can let your salvage drones mop up wrecks while you loot the BSs from the mission. It's efficient if you pay attention to a "looting route". And whoever said to leave the garbage for the buzzards was correct too - it's not so effcicient to loot ALL wrecks - cherry pick for best profits overall.

Have fun getting rich !

You can actually find an implant worth around 50m isk, in either "Damsel in distress" or "The right hand of Zazzmatazz" on Zor's Wreck. found 3 so far. Although that was quite some time ago, so CCP might have changed that.

Stuff to do
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

My ancient thread
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=774785

The revamped semiofficial version
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Making_ISK

In the third month (if not earlier) you realize the pve of this game is so boring and it feels like a job and not a game anymore.