CCP does not allow to train more than 1 char.

Your post is terrible, no one will miss you and no one gives a crap.
Im sure EVE will actually become 5% better simply because your toxic presence is here no more.

"Make sure you fill our forms and don't forget to let us about yourself as well. If we like you, we will let you know within 2 weeks and schedule an inverview with you via teamspeak." Or some crap like that. Thank god, they don't ask for urine analysis. I feel some people take this game too seriously.

Your post is terrible, no one will miss you and no one gives a crap.
Im sure EVE will actually become 5% better simply because your toxic presence is here no more.

I cannot emphasize enough how easy it is to dodge 100% of the PvE gameplay of EVE just by learning some basic recruitment scamming skills. Unlike any other MMO, you can join EVE, get your bearings, scam a foolish J4G out of everything he owns, flip his assets on the market for a ton of ISK, and turn around and buy a veteran, years-old character with the scammed ISK... on day one. This is not WoW or STO; you do not have to be stuck as a GÇÿnewbieGÇÖ in game terms, slowly getting skillpoints over months. Characters in EVE are bought and sold like commodities for ISK, and scamming for ISK is legal. The only limit in EVE is how clever you are - and if you are not clever yourself, there are many clever goons here willing to help you out.

3. No secrets. When I started playing the first time I loaded the map I thought that there are remote regions where noone went yet and I can spend days looking for hidden treasures. How wrong I was. All space is colonized (even wormholes). Everything is known. Even how many ships can pass through this or that wormhole before it collapses and what enemies will spawn in this or that sleeper site.

Wrong on point 1.

I just can't read the rest.

this is more of an idea that would be neat and not a game breaking thing.


I'm calling troll, no one biomasses a character just because they are quitting, you just stop playing.

How did it take you 4 months to figure out you don't like something?

What is with all these newbies whining that they can't be just as good as a vet within weeks of starting the game?

Agree New Eden galaxy not big enough though. Has it expanded at all apart from wh systems since launch?

1. Altism. The CCP forces players to create alts. I don't talk here about off-grid boosting alt or tengu dual-boxing to run 10/10, but rather the fact that CCP does not allow to train more than 1 char. Why the heck I can't train 1 mission runner 1 pirate and 1 indy toon at the same time? That way I would be able to explore different careers and play depending on my mood the char I want. But no! CCP wants additional 15$ for every new char. Under no circumstances would I pay more than 15$/month. So that restriction simply annoyed me.

2. SP training. As I learned at some point there were no T2 items and so training worked as intended. So, the vet that spent 24 days to get level V would be only 2% more effective than someone who trained that skill till IV spending only 4 days. It allowed 'catching' up (not true but effective) with older players. However with introduction of T2 items/ships level V for very many skills became essential. Want armor tanking? Make sure you get hull upgrades til V. What T2 medium guns? Spend 20+ days to get them. Furthermore, to compensate CCP introduced faction modules (a bit better or equal to t2 items {i don't mean ammo here}). They are much more expensive than t2 but require less sp to use. I always saw it as a way to milk newer players (to sell plex) who are forced to equip them to be as effective as their higher sp counter-partners.

3. No secrets. When I started playing the first time I loaded the map I thought that there are remote regions where noone went yet and I can spend days looking for hidden treasures. How wrong I was. All space is colonized (even wormholes). Everything is known. Even how many ships can pass through this or that wormhole before it collapses and what enemies will spawn in this or that sleeper site.

4. Corps/recruitment. Since to be effective one needs t2 fits most corporations have solid 15-20 mil sp requirement. That number is not arbitrary. It simply reflects the amount of sp needed to fly T2 fitted T1/T2 frigates, T1/T2 cruisers, T3 battlecruisers and maybe battleships. And the process of recruitment is quite humiliating. "Make sure you fill our forms and don't forget to let us about yourself as well. If we like you, we will let you know within 2 weeks and schedule an inverview with you via teamspeak." Or some crap like that. Thank god, they don't ask for urine analysis. I feel some people take this game too seriously.

Why the heck I can't train 1 mission runner 1 pirate and 1 indy toon at the same time? That way I would be able to explore different careers and play depending on my mood the char I want. But no! CCP wants additional 15$ for every new char. Under no circumstances would I pay more than 15$/month. So that restriction simply annoyed me.

So, the vet that spent 24 days to get level V would be only 2% more effective than someone who trained that skill till IV spending only 4 days.

got this far then realized op is a fail

There are four major things I didn't like about this game and were my primary reasons to quit.

There are plenty of corps that will take you as a newbie.

Allow me to quote The King of Space:

I understand that you're looking for opportunities to perform e-fellatio on your boss... but that isn't even relevant.

I don't really care. You didn't like that game, it's not for everyone. Move on, no need to make some post full of drivel to justify yourself. Cya!

I'm calling troll, no one biomasses a character just because they are quitting, you just stop playing.

naah, it's the sensible way to quit a game
it creates less temptation to "check what's changed over the last x months"
it means you have no reason to come back

Agree New Eden galaxy not big enough though. Has it expanded at all apart from wh systems since launch?

Needs quadruple the area. Come on CCP, ditch Dust fisher price marioland sandpit, invest in sandbox like you want to.

Pretty obvious they meant that you can't train more than one character on the same account for the same $15.

Alt-ing is pretty common in MMOs, the 'you can pay double to train two characters at the same time!' is a scam, pure and simple.

If only OP had raised these concerns before flying off the handle.

3. No secrets. When I started playing the first time I loaded the map I thought that there are remote regions where noone went yet and I can spend days looking for hidden treasures. How wrong I was. All space is colonized (even wormholes). Everything is known. Even how many ships can pass through this or that wormhole before it collapses and what enemies will spawn in this or that sleeper site.

And that's a horrible thing, having a reason to come back once in a while?

I mean, you randomly get mails that let you up for free for 5 days. Wouldn't say there's anything wrong with checking things out. Also, what if you change your mind?

1. Altism. The CCP forces players to create alts. I don't talk here about off-grid boosting alt or tengu dual-boxing to run 10/10, but rather the fact that CCP does not allow to train more than 1 char. Why the heck I can't train 1 mission runner 1 pirate and 1 indy toon at the same time? That way I would be able to explore different careers and play depending on my mood the char I want. But no! CCP wants additional 15$ for every new char. Under no circumstances would I pay more than 15$/month. So that restriction simply annoyed me.

2. SP training. As I learned at some point there were no T2 items and so training worked as intended. So, the vet that spent 24 days to get level V would be only 2% more effective than someone who trained that skill till IV spending only 4 days. It allowed 'catching' up (not true but effective) with older players. However with introduction of T2 items/ships level V for very many skills became essential. Want armor tanking? Make sure you get hull upgrades til V. What T2 medium guns? Spend 20+ days to get them. Furthermore, to compensate CCP introduced faction modules (a bit better or equal to t2 items {i don't mean ammo here}). They are much more expensive than t2 but require less sp to use. I always saw it as a way to milk newer players (to sell plex) who are forced to equip them to be as effective as their higher sp counter-partners.

3. No secrets. When I started playing the first time I loaded the map I thought that there are remote regions where noone went yet and I can spend days looking for hidden treasures. How wrong I was. All space is colonized (even wormholes). Everything is known. Even how many ships can pass through this or that wormhole before it collapses and what enemies will spawn in this or that sleeper site.

4. Corps/recruitment. Since to be effective one needs t2 fits most corporations have solid 15-20 mil sp requirement. That number is not arbitrary. It simply reflects the amount of sp needed to fly T2 fitted T1/T2 frigates, T1/T2 cruisers, T3 battlecruisers and maybe battleships. And the process of recruitment is quite humiliating. "Make sure you fill our forms and don't forget to let us about yourself as well. If we like you, we will let you know within 2 weeks and schedule an inverview with you via teamspeak." Or some crap like that. Thank god, they don't ask for urine analysis. I feel some people take this game too seriously.

EVE needs some truly random content. Random new systems you can venture out in that can hold just about everything. High end ores, sleeper drones, space agents, whatever. If it's in the game you have a chance of encountering it there. Stuff like that would me EVE more fun in my mind.

Agree New Eden galaxy not big enough though. Has it expanded at all apart from wh systems since launch?

Needs quadruple the area. Come on CCP, ditch Dust fisher price marioland sandpit, invest in sandbox like you want to.

EVE isn't for everyone

/thread

1. Altism. The CCP forces players to create alts. I don't talk here about off-grid boosting alt or tengu dual-boxing to run 10/10, but rather the fact that CCP does not allow to train more than 1 char. Why the heck I can't train 1 mission runner 1 pirate and 1 indy toon at the same time? That way I would be able to explore different careers and play depending on my mood the char I want. But no! CCP wants additional 15$ for every new char. Under no circumstances would I pay more than 15$/month. So that restriction simply annoyed me.

2. SP training. As I learned at some point there were no T2 items and so training worked as intended. So, the vet that spent 24 days to get level V would be only 2% more effective than someone who trained that skill till IV spending only 4 days. It allowed 'catching' up (not true but effective) with older players. However with introduction of T2 items/ships level V for very many skills became essential. Want armor tanking? Make sure you get hull upgrades til V. What T2 medium guns? Spend 20+ days to get them. Furthermore, to compensate CCP introduced faction modules (a bit better or equal to t2 items {i don't mean ammo here}). They are much more expensive than t2 but require less sp to use. I always saw it as a way to milk newer players (to sell plex) who are forced to equip them to be as effective as their higher sp counter-partners.

3. No secrets. When I started playing the first time I loaded the map I thought that there are remote regions where noone went yet and I can spend days looking for hidden treasures. How wrong I was. All space is colonized (even wormholes). Everything is known. Even how many ships can pass through this or that wormhole before it collapses and what enemies will spawn in this or that sleeper site.

4. Corps/recruitment. Since to be effective one needs t2 fits most corporations have solid 15-20 mil sp requirement. That number is not arbitrary. It simply reflects the amount of sp needed to fly T2 fitted T1/T2 frigates, T1/T2 cruisers, T3 battlecruisers and maybe battleships. And the process of recruitment is quite humiliating. "Make sure you fill our forms and don't forget to let us about yourself as well. If we like you, we will let you know within 2 weeks and schedule an inverview with you via teamspeak." Or some crap like that. Thank god, they don't ask for urine analysis. I feel some people take this game too seriously.

But good news. I don't have to worry about all that any more. Cheers!

1. Altism. The CCP forces players to create alts. I don't talk here about off-grid boosting alt or tengu dual-boxing to run 10/10, but rather the fact that CCP does not allow to train more than 1 char. Why the heck I can't train 1 mission runner 1 pirate and 1 indy toon at the same time? That way I would be able to explore different careers and play depending on my mood the char I want. But no! CCP wants additional 15$ for every new char. Under no circumstances would I pay more than 15$/month. So that restriction simply annoyed me.

2. SP training. As I learned at some point there were no T2 items and so training worked as intended. So, the vet that spent 24 days to get level V would be only 2% more effective than someone who trained that skill till IV spending only 4 days. It allowed 'catching' up (not true but effective) with older players. However with introduction of T2 items/ships level V for very many skills became essential. Want armor tanking? Make sure you get hull upgrades til V. What T2 medium guns? Spend 20+ days to get them. Furthermore, to compensate CCP introduced faction modules (a bit better or equal to t2 items {i don't mean ammo here}). They are much more expensive than t2 but require less sp to use. I always saw it as a way to milk newer players (to sell plex) who are forced to equip them to be as effective as their higher sp counter-partners.

3. No secrets. When I started playing the first time I loaded the map I thought that there are remote regions where noone went yet and I can spend days looking for hidden treasures. How wrong I was. All space is colonized (even wormholes). Everything is known. Even how many ships can pass through this or that wormhole before it collapses and what enemies will spawn in this or that sleeper site.

4. Corps/recruitment. Since to be effective one needs t2 fits most corporations have solid 15-20 mil sp requirement. That number is not arbitrary. It simply reflects the amount of sp needed to fly T2 fitted T1/T2 frigates, T1/T2 cruisers, T3 battlecruisers and maybe battleships. And the process of recruitment is quite humiliating. "Make sure you fill our forms and don't forget to let us about yourself as well. If we like you, we will let you know within 2 weeks and schedule an inverview with you via teamspeak." Or some crap like that. Thank god, they don't ask for urine analysis. I feel some people take this game too seriously.

I don't think people with autism (massive % of player base) like secrets. Could someone confirm this?

i bet that the Tranquility structure can handle loading a bigger universe, 7000+ star systems is a small number, accordin to the sacred wikipedia, a star cluster can vary from 10000 to millions of stars. like some sort of mini galaxy. new eden is too small for a real cluster.

and as i said in other threads, even singleplayer games have bigger universes, Elite for example, SPORE is another example, althought SPORE's galaxy had smaller systems, Shores of Hazeron is the only online space game i can think that has a single shard as EVE, and even with its archaic arquitecture it generates a really big galaxy (the most crowded empires where the mayority of the player population lives are located in a little cluster in one of the galaxy arms).

Allow me to quote The King of Space:

Thread has been moved to Out of Pod Experience.

Allow me to quote The King of Spice

**** you . in case you didnt read it right. **** YOU. ******* idiotas.

This isnt your game it seems.

This isnt your game it seems.

Should have biomassed yourself as well.. xD

If you dont like this game, why keeping around its forums and raging on everything and everyone?
I dont like starcraft 2, but you dont see me posting crap all over their forums how game and ther company sucks..

Not cool man.

Yeeessss embrace the hate my friend. Let it consume your soul and come join me on the dark side...

Well since you dont have eve installed, and you dont play it...
Why are you hanging around eve forums ?
Why are you qqing that you dont like eve?
You stoped playing, ok, move along and leave us alone..

Im not going to pursue this matter with you since you lack some common sence..

Good day to ya...

After playing this game for 4 months I decided to biomass. I can't write with my main because it is already gone (sorry, but my stuff is gone with it too). Writing this post as an aftermath.
There are four major things I didn't like about this game and were my primary reasons to quit.

1. Altism. The CCP forces players to create alts. I don't talk here about off-grid boosting alt or tengu dual-boxing to run 10/10, but rather the fact that CCP does not allow to train more than 1 char. Why the heck I can't train 1 mission runner 1 pirate and 1 indy toon at the same time? That way I would be able to explore different careers and play depending on my mood the char I want. But no! CCP wants additional 15$ for every new char. Under no circumstances would I pay more than 15$/month. So that restriction simply annoyed me.!

2. SP training. As I learned at some point there were no T2 items and so training worked as intended. So, the vet that spent 24 days to get level V would be only 2% more effective than someone who trained that skill till IV spending only 4 days. It allowed 'catching' up (not true but effective) with older players. However with introduction of T2 items/ships level V for very many skills became essential. Want armor tanking? Make sure you get hull upgrades til V. What T2 medium guns? Spend 20+ days to get them. Furthermore, to compensate CCP introduced faction modules (a bit better or equal to t2 items {i don't mean ammo here}). They are much more expensive than t2 but require less sp to use. I always saw it as a way to milk newer players (to sell plex) who are forced to equip them to be as effective as their higher sp counter-partners. !

3. No secrets. When I started playing the first time I loaded the map I thought that there are remote regions where noone went yet and I can spend days looking for hidden treasures. How wrong I was. All space is colonized (even wormholes). Everything is known. Even how many ships can pass through this or that wormhole before it collapses and what enemies will spawn in this or that sleeper site.

4. Corps/recruitment. Since to be effective one needs t2 fits most corporations have solid 15-20 mil sp requirement. That number is not arbitrary. It simply reflects the amount of sp needed to fly T2 fitted T1/T2 frigates, T1/T2 cruisers, T3 battlecruisers and maybe battleships. And the process of recruitment is quite humiliating. "Make sure you fill our forms and don't forget to let us about yourself as well. If we like you, we will let you know within 2 weeks and schedule an inverview with you via teamspeak." Or some crap like that. Thank god, they don't ask for urine analysis. I feel some people take this game too seriously. !

But good news. I don't have to worry about all that any more. Cheers!

Pretty obvious they meant that you can't train more than one character on the same account for the same $15.

Alt-ing is pretty common in MMOs, the 'you can pay double to train two characters at the same time!' is a scam, pure and simple.

How did it take you 4 months to figure out you don't like something?

There are corps that will accept new players, unfortunately the in game corp finder is abused by corps who tag themselves new player friendly while requiring upwards of 10 million SP, some even set themselves as new player friendly with 30 mill or above for christs sake. As the finder cut off results after a fixed amount this clutters the results up with corps unsuitable for new players and leaves them with few real choices from the tool. IMO any corp found tagging themselves with the new player field requiring more than 1 mil SP should be banned from using the tool.

For what the I don't even. Incredible OP. You can easily have a pirate and an explorer and a miner and a wormhole raider pfff easypeasy. I only 1.5month, I been ninja mining in null, explore abnormalities like Lewis & Clark on crack, I even went deep deep deep undercover into wormhole's ass and came out fine with tiptop peen and lookatme bragrights.

Alt? Not needed. Just time, is all. What, you octogenarian going catch the number nine to heaven in seven months? Get a pair and pay your dues, you be bittervet like Ace and Mittens before you hit 30.

Eve level progression doing fine. No rush. Not going anywhere.

4. Corps/recruitment. Since to be effective one needs t2 fits most corporations have solid 15-20 mil sp requirement. That number is not arbitrary. It simply reflects the amount of sp needed to fly T2 fitted T1/T2 frigates, T1/T2 cruisers, T3 battlecruisers and maybe battleships. And the process of recruitment is quite humiliating. "Make sure you fill our forms and don't forget to let us about yourself as well. If we like you, we will let you know within 2 weeks and schedule an inverview with you via teamspeak." Or some crap like that. Thank god, they don't ask for urine analysis. I feel some people take this game too seriously.

But good news. I don't have to worry about all that any more. Cheers!