What makes this fit a "game changer" however, is the fact that there is no loot that the Federation Militia pilots can use to replenish their ship losses. There is nothing of value here with the sole exception of the Capacitor Control Circuits.

Get a smart bomb. GG

So in FW there are these things called Novice plexes...

Jam/Damp enemy FC...

Also, do drone assigns work in Faction Warfare? I found them to be useless when pirating in lowsec, as the drones wont attack...

Who could possibly find enjoyment in being in such a fleet? Faction Warfare, e-uni style.

Jam/Damp enemy FC... Also, do drone assigns work in Faction Warfare? I found them to be useless when pirating in lowsec, as the drones wont attack...

Drones are jam/damp resistant because you can:
1. Assist somebody who is not jammed/damped, and
2. Put them on "aggressive" so that if you are jam/damped they will still apply dps.

Our fitting experts are still at work trying to counter this setup. Will report back soon and get your opinions.

The bad thing about this is that the Tristan is a frog ship.

This one knows not of the attrition doctrines that are being run by both sides. SHUSH YOU

Ibis

Agreed, from a rp perspective, Caldari FW players should not be allowed to fly Gallente hulls.

I must aggressively object to this: The more caldari that fly navy comets, the more 50 point kills I get on BC. If anything, I'd like it if the caldari weren't allowed to fly hookbills :P

I guess i'm being trolled.

The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare .... and the lack of end game.

And yet you are in RvB. +1

The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare due to the inevitable pendulum nature of it and the lack of end game. It makes caring about the trolling difficult.

We do have an endgame:

To crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women (and their men playing as women).

What else could you want?

"When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer."

i like turtles

But these Tristans are like FAST turtles. That's what makes them so dangerous.

You would think so, but with two overdrive injectors these Tristans can move quickly to close. No, kiters are not the way to go.

This should do the trick:

[Punisher, Charg]
Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector I
Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector I
Heat Sink I
Damage Control I

1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Supplemental Barrier Emitter I

Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
[empty high slot]

Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I

(it may run into difficulties if the Caldari switch to acolytes or neut drones, though).

I don't expect monetary recompense for my expertise, but if the FDU would erect a statue of me outside each of their stations, I would not object.

This'll get deleted eventually but in the meantime...hilarious
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18715778

These are all great suggestions, but unfortunately a bit misguided. For example, using smartbombs in FW kills your faction standings - due to you hitting members in your own militia.

Do you all see the light now? These things will be the death of us all!

The truth reveals itself. This is XG's master plan to get everybody to join JUSTK!

These are all great suggestions, but unfortunately a bit misguided. For example, using smartbombs in FW kills your faction standings - due to you hitting members in your own militia.

That's why like I said you could still spider tank navitas while everyone is staying outside the range of each other's smart bombs.

"When the fw farmer saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more systems to farm."

fixed.

..kiting Kestrel... kiting Condor... Kestrel... kiting, Condor, and other solutions full of questionable morality...

Although we may starve to death fighting this Fat-Cat doctrine, we will do so with honor. Kiting missile boats are out of the question.

Sadly, we have been spending too much time trying to counter this Fat-Cat doctrine to farm anything lately. We're starving!

Although we may starve to death fighting this Fat-Cat doctrine, we will do so with honor. Kiting missile boats are out of the question.

Sadly, we have been spending too much time trying to counter this Fat-Cat doctrine to farm anything lately. We're starving!

I have a questions about assigning drones.

After the drones are assigned to the fc will they keep attacking as long as the fc is alive or will they stop attacking if you kill the ship that assigned them?

Could the fc use a merlin or punisher?

I'm assuming the drones used the skill bonuses and ship/module bonuses of the person assigning them and not the fc and the fc's ship.

There is only one way to counter this doctrine: You need to get a fleet of 40 lokis, 40 proteuses, 20 guardians, at a minimum. Adding some triage carriers may be needed.. You will also need a titan and cyno. Hot dropping is the only viable solution.

So, bottom-line it for me: is this a sad, bored-on-Sunday troll, or are you actually asking something?

in fact khan who makes these fleets is official clown of Caldari miltiia so he has huge number of followers having fun and exploding !

Kiting missile boats are for the Caldari pubbies anyways. .......
........Sad times in Black Rise.

Last night Caldari Admiral Kahn "KAHHHNNNN!!!!" Farshatok took the fight to a whole new level. In one fell swoop he nullified the only two remaining advantages the Gallente had with what our Intelligence Sources are calling the "Fat-Cat Doctrine".

The Fat-Cat is a simple fitted Tristan hull with two objectives: 1) Remove the effect of lousy Caldari pilots from the battle by concentrating as much of the piloting, targeting, and basically everything to the FC, and 2) Deny FDU pilots any worthwhile loot.

Bottom Line: Kahn plans to starve us to death, just like he tried to starve Kirk to death by transporting him to the center of a planet. This is an all-out war of attrition - to the bitter end.

Here is the fit:
[Fat Cat, Tristan]
Small Shield Transporter I
200mm Autocannon Ix2
1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender I
Warp Scrambler I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Overdrive Injector Ix2
Small Capacitor Control Circuit Ix3
8x Tech 1 Drones

The fleet doctrine is brilliant. Set up inside a FW Plex, turn on the MWD, hit "keep at range 500" to the FC, launch drones and assign them to the FC, put the small shield transporter on the FC (since he is the only one actively piloting and targeting anything). And wait. The only thing the fleet members need to do is engage anybody who attacks the FC with their autocannons and scram. "F1" and "F2" isn't very hard - even for a Squid.

What makes this fit a "game changer" however, is the fact that there is no loot that the Federation Militia pilots can use to replenish their ship losses. There is nothing of value here with the sole exception of the Capacitor Control Circuits. In fact, the CCC's cost 3x the rest of the ship. This might sound "moronic" at first, but in reality it's brilliant because rigs don't drop and so an enemy fleet can't use them to resupply their forces. That, coupled with the fact that Gallente are at Tier 1 and cannot make isk in FW, will likely prove to be the last nail in the coffin for the Gallente Militia. We will not be able to endure our losses for much longer.

Difficult times are ahead.

What about Light missile Talwars? And kestrels if you can't use dessies

Light missiles has a great alpha and great damage projection. A large group of t1 fit talwars can easily wipe out a frig gang, and with the high volley damage the tristans wouldn't benefit much from their RR.

Seems like I don't undestand it then. Nor do I understand how a bunch of tristans can stop you from fighting back.

Seems like I don't undestand it then. Nor do I understand how a bunch of tristans can stop you from fighting back.

Last night Caldari Admiral Kahn "KAHHHNNNN!!!!" Farshatok took the fight to a whole new level. In one fell swoop he nullified the only two remaining advantages the Gallente had with what our Intelligence Sources are calling the "Fat-Cat Doctrine".

The Fat-Cat is a simple fitted Tristan hull with two objectives: 1) Remove the effect of lousy Caldari pilots from the battle by concentrating as much of the piloting, targeting, and basically everything to the FC, and 2) Deny FDU pilots any worthwhile loot.

Bottom Line: Kahn plans to starve us to death, just like he tried to starve Kirk to death by transporting him to the center of a planet. This is an all-out war of attrition - to the bitter end.

Here is the fit:
[Fat Cat, Tristan]
Small Shield Transporter I
200mm Autocannon Ix2
1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender I
Warp Scrambler I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Overdrive Injector Ix2
Small Capacitor Control Circuit Ix3
8x Tech 1 Drones

The fleet doctrine is brilliant. Set up inside a FW Plex, turn on the MWD, hit "keep at range 500" to the FC, launch drones and assign them to the FC, put the small shield transporter on the FC (since he is the only one actively piloting and targeting anything). And wait. The only thing the fleet members need to do is engage anybody who attacks the FC with their autocannons and scram. "F1" and "F2" isn't very hard - even for a Squid.

What makes this fit a "game changer" however, is the fact that there is no loot that the Federation Militia pilots can use to replenish their ship losses. There is nothing of value here with the sole exception of the Capacitor Control Circuits. In fact, the CCC's cost 3x the rest of the ship. This might sound "moronic" at first, but in reality it's brilliant because rigs don't drop and so an enemy fleet can't use them to resupply their forces. That, coupled with the fact that Gallente are at Tier 1 and cannot make isk in FW, will likely prove to be the last nail in the coffin for the Gallente Militia. We will not be able to endure our losses for much longer.

Difficult times are ahead.

Imagine being dropped in a bee hive and having 100's of bees stinging you every few seconds.