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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.12.04 22:34:00 -
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Let me start by saying that I have no problem with the new big boys toys such as motherships and titans. (Hell it gives us something massive to aim for.)
I do have one major gripe tho, and that is that a shipyard needs sovereignty to work. This effectivly prevents any solo large corporation from working towards one of these super vessels even if they are willing to work like dogs for months to atain it.
I think this is HORRIBLY wrong and that even the biggest toys should be avalible to any man should he be willing to work for it.
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Galde
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Posted - 2005.12.04 23:07:00 -
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then make yourself your own alliance |

Domalais
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Posted - 2005.12.04 23:38:00 -
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Any large solo corporation with the ISK to make a capital ship certainly has the ISK to form their own alliance.
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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.12.04 23:58:00 -
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Yes because the game needs more Psudo-Alliances 
An Alliance should actualy be an Alliance. A large group with terretorial claim not some corp and some guys alt bundled into some billion isk costing excuse for an Alliance.
I personaly dont see why this should be a prequisit for the construction of such ships and all it does is act as a dis-incentive.
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.12.05 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm I do have one major gripe tho, and that is that a shipyard needs sovereignty to work.
sure it does?
thought it just needed a pos?
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Domalais
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Posted - 2005.12.05 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm
I personaly dont see why this should be a prequisit for the construction of such ships and all it does is act as a dis-incentive.
I think the purpose is to prevent people from using secret bases to produce capital ships. Gotta put it on the map to roll out the big ships.
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm Yes because the game needs more Psudo-Alliances 
An Alliance should actualy be an Alliance. A large group with terretorial claim not some corp and some guys alt bundled into some billion isk costing excuse for an Alliance.
I personaly dont see why this should be a prequisit for the construction of such ships and all it does is act as a dis-incentive.
It wouldn't be a pseudo-alliance then because you would have to claim a piece of space. Also there is still the option to buy one from an alliance that does have the ability to make them, am I right?
These ships are mostly tools for the very big alliances anyway.
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Rawthorm
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Posted - 2005.12.05 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: aeti
sure it does?
thought it just needed a pos?
It's what I thought. However upon checking the RMR page soverignty is needed 
Originally by: Domalais
I think the purpose is to prevent people from using secret bases to produce capital ships. Gotta put it on the map to roll out the big ships.
Now whats wrong with a secret base? Given there is no way to properly defend a pos now days given the lame ai of the guns, its not exactly encouraging to stick billions of isk in one and prying for the best.
Basicaly ensures that these ships are only built by those who have the man power to post a 23 hour guard at the pos for 8 weeks. It's a sad day when the number of people in your corp means more than the effort your willing to put in 
Originally by: Tobiaz It wouldn't be a pseudo-alliance then because you would have to claim a piece of space. Also there is still the option to buy one from an alliance that does have the ability to make them, am I right?
These ships are mostly tools for the very big alliances anyway.
Yes but in order to claim the vessel they have to have a pilot capable of flying it out to you. Anyone whos training for one is gonna be in their own for the rest of the game and not in a position to deliver one to you.
And yes thats my point. They may be big toys for the alliance to use, but why on earth should a corp be denied it if they want to put in the same amount of work to get one?
(BTW is there any news on frieghters and pos with RMR? I just ask cos i'd like to see an alliance do 2,500 runs with components in standard cargo haulers if they cant use the freighter to deliver to the shipyard...)
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