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Alpheias Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse 2208	Posted - 2013.07.08 20:03:00 - [31] - Quote Grimpak wrote: Alpheias wrote: Craig Bennett2th wrote: rabble rabble Let us be realistic then, at the moment Chris Roberts pretty much sound just like a Peter Molyneux 2.0; talks a lot, promises a lot and has yet to actually to deliver on his promises all in the meantime he continues to ask for more money and build up hype. And to be fair, what he has revealed so far is frankly nothing besides Star Citizen being a mission runner' wet dream with no risks. But that isn't what is annoying me, what is annoying me is this nerdrage from people like you over something that is basically at this stage nothing but a a concept with a few trailers, a few ships that you can already buy and the game is two years away (however unlikely) to be a finished product. I am going to call it right now and say that Star Citizen is going to get delayed. Why? Because it is profitable. the **** are you talking about?? this is the eve-o forums, reason and rationale is left outside! Much like the Portuguese parliament right? Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on.
Grimpak Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce 974	Posted - 2013.07.08 20:04:00 - [32] - Quote Alpheias wrote: Grimpak wrote: Alpheias wrote: Craig Bennett2th wrote: rabble rabble Let us be realistic then, at the moment Chris Roberts pretty much sound just like a Peter Molyneux 2.0; talks a lot, promises a lot and has yet to actually to deliver on his promises all in the meantime he continues to ask for more money and build up hype. And to be fair, what he has revealed so far is frankly nothing besides Star Citizen being a mission runner' wet dream with no risks. But that isn't what is annoying me, what is annoying me is this nerdrage from people like you over something that is basically at this stage nothing but a a concept with a few trailers, a few ships that you can already buy and the game is two years away (however unlikely) to be a finished product. I am going to call it right now and say that Star Citizen is going to get delayed. Why? Because it is profitable. the **** are you talking about?? this is the eve-o forums, reason and rationale is left outside! Much like the Portuguese parliament right? now, good sir, that was a nuclear-strength ice burn right there. well played and touch+¬ sir, touch+¬ [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 1308	Posted - 2013.07.08 20:09:00 - [33] - Quote Alpheias wrote: Craig Bennett2th wrote: rabble rabble Let us be realistic then, at the moment Chris Roberts pretty much sound just like a Peter Molyneux 2.0; talks a lot, promises a lot and has yet to actually to deliver on his promises all in the meantime he continues to ask for more money and build up hype. And to be fair, what he has revealed so far is frankly nothing besides Star Citizen being a mission runner' wet dream with no risks. Minus permadeath and the need to designate a heir to preserve some of your stuff in case you die, yay. CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility" ...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha.
Craig Bennett2th Bennett Corp Epsilon Shimmy Alliance 100	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:24:00 - [34] - Quote Alpheias wrote: Let us be realistic then, at the moment Chris Roberts pretty much sound just like a Peter Molyneux 2.0; talks a lot, promises a lot and has yet to actually to deliver on his promises all in the meantime he continues to ask for more money and build up hype. I agree with you when you are talking about the hype and talk. Not so much with the promises. His first due date is August of this year. Here is a link to their release dates. http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Anticipated_release_schedule We will see what happens when the time comes. BTW i was burnt by Peter too. Alpheias wrote: And to be fair, what he has revealed so far is frankly nothing besides Star Citizen being a mission runner' wet dream with no risks. Obviously you haven't done your research when it comes to this (and the release dates). They are focusing on PVP more than anything else. (So much so, it's pushing some people away) Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt
Alara IonStorm 5206	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:48:00 - [35] - Quote The part of this whole EVE Killer thing I don't get is where everyone predicts an exodus. There have been some games that everyone says will pull lots of EVE Players like Black Prophecy, World of Tanks and SWOTOR and they are right, they do... ...And pretty much no one cancels their EVE Accounts. It is like the concept of playing more than one game is lost on people here.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 4938	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:52:00 - [36] - Quote I enjoy wild speculation threads. White cheddar popcorn FTW. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Craig Bennett2th Bennett Corp Epsilon Shimmy Alliance 100	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:54:00 - [37] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: The part of this whole EVE Killer thing I don't get is where everyone predicts an exodus. There have been some games that everyone says will pull lots of EVE Players like Black Prophecy, World of Tanks and SWOTOR and they are right, they do... ...And pretty much no one cancels their EVE Accounts. It is like the concept of playing more than one game is lost on people here. It's like the iPhone killer thing. The iPhone is no where near number 1 in the market any more (sale wise). But, it's still there. Nothing is really going to kill something (besides the obvious). But, everyone likes to think 1 big company/game/software/etc can kill another. Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt
Freakdevil Aliastra Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.07.09 01:48:00 - [38] - Quote The videos of Star Citizen make me drool. But then I think, wipe off the eye candy and will the game hold up? Is this going to be a case of a slick looking Instanced game with no real consequence? Item shop and private servers makes me wonder what exactly is the big deal here. So you have a really cool ship, now what? Will you be able to fly to a far sector and crash a camp of pirate players and put it all on the line? Sounds more like a better version of X3 with multiplayer aspects but not really an MMO. But I could be wrong. So forgive me for any errors in my post. But that is my impression so far.
Q 5 Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2013.07.09 04:17:00 - [39] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: Craig Bennett2th wrote: Vaju Enki wrote: Why would anyone that enjoys playing Sandbox Mmo-Rpg's be interested in a Arcade Sci-Fi Multiplayer Game..... You should be posting this on www.classicgamesarcade.com, this game will definitely bring competition to Wing Commander. It's not an arcade shooter. It's actually a copy of EVE, but better in some areas. And worst in others. The few things it has that EVE doesn't is physics, an ability to take out ships parts (engines, nav system, etc.). You can board and shoot everyone on another ship (or you can be shot if they are ready for you). And so on. But there is a few things it doesn't have that EVE has. I am not going to get into this because the game is coming out in 2015. This means those things can be added. There is also a PvP toggle, so it doesn't actually compare to EVE at all. It will essentially be a single player game. Sooo I can just keep cruising if I don't want pvp and they can't force it upon me \0/ hooray for star citizen. Take that Goons!
Nometh Xergent Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 571	Posted - 2013.07.09 10:11:00 - [40] - Quote Space citizen has only graphics, nothing more With great responsibility comes great DPS.-á
True Sight Deep Freeze Industries 156	Posted - 2013.07.09 19:37:00 - [41] - Quote Nometh Xergent wrote: Star citizen has only graphics, nothing more You Missed... multi-crew ships. Skill based combat and all the features that aren't yet definied.
Prince Kobol 833	Posted - 2013.07.09 19:47:00 - [42] - Quote True Sight wrote: Nometh Xergent wrote: Star citizen has only graphics, nothing more You Missed... multi-crew ships. Skill based combat and all the features that aren't yet definied. The multi crewed ship s for me ios a massive biggy. I love the idea of working as a team to build something and then everybody be fly that something. Take the corvette for example. You as a team build it and then you as a team are able to fly it... 1 actually flying the ship, 2 - 3 others flying the fighters which are docked and then a couple of others manning the guns. I love this idea..
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 10695	Posted - 2013.07.10 12:26:00 - [43] - Quote EVE: 10 years of development work; product status: actually exists; market status: expanding subscriber base Star Citizen: Airy promises offering everything that everyone wants; product status: vaporware; market status: you can donate! Sadly, CCP can only sell EVE on what it actually does. The Star Citizen team operate under no such constraint. It's an MMO to people who want an EVE replacement, it's not an MMO to people who don't. It will have amazing this and multiplayer that and co-op the other and and and and... Promises are cheap; code is expensive. I'll be interested to see what they actually deliver. 1 Kings 12:11
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 10695	Posted - 2013.07.10 12:31:00 - [44] - Quote Q 5 wrote: Mallak Azaria wrote: Craig Bennett2th wrote: Vaju Enki wrote: Why would anyone that enjoys playing Sandbox Mmo-Rpg's be interested in a Arcade Sci-Fi Multiplayer Game..... You should be posting this on www.classicgamesarcade.com, this game will definitely bring competition to Wing Commander. It's not an arcade shooter. It's actually a copy of EVE, but better in some areas. And worst in others. The few things it has that EVE doesn't is physics, an ability to take out ships parts (engines, nav system, etc.). You can board and shoot everyone on another ship (or you can be shot if they are ready for you). And so on. But there is a few things it doesn't have that EVE has. I am not going to get into this because the game is coming out in 2015. This means those things can be added. There is also a PvP toggle, so it doesn't actually compare to EVE at all. It will essentially be a single player game. Sooo I can just keep cruising if I don't want pvp and they can't force it upon me \0/ hooray for star citizen. Take that Goons! Remember ST:O? 1 Kings 12:11
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 1315	Posted - 2013.07.10 13:04:00 - [45] - Quote Malcanis wrote: EVE: 10 years of development work; product status: actually exists; market status: expanding subscriber base Star Citizen: Airy promises offering everything that everyone wants; product status: vaporware; market status: you can donate! Sadly, CCP can only sell EVE on what it actually does. The Star Citizen team operate under no such constraint. It's an MMO to people who want an EVE replacement, it's not an MMO to people who don't. It will have amazing this and multiplayer that and co-op the other and and and and... Promises are cheap; code is expensive. I'll be interested to see what they actually deliver. Curently the game is being developed by a core studio (Cloud Imperium Games) and several hired studios with expertise in their assigned areas. Rather than reinvent the wheel and learn to use it, Chris Roberts is hiring the people who know so they go alpha by November this year. Will it deliver? Can't tell. I hope so, of course, as I was of the first 4,000 guys to trust the project. In worst case, I'll have paid 48 euros to get a plastic card with my SC name on it... but then, provided what CCP has taken from me in the last 4+ years and what they have delivered in exchange, it's obvious that I'm a terrible investor of my leisure money. CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility" ...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha.
Craig Bennett2th Bennett Corp Epsilon Shimmy Alliance 102	Posted - 2013.07.10 15:13:00 - [46] - Quote Malcanis wrote: EVE: 10 years of development work; product status: actually exists; market status: expanding subscriber base Star Citizen: Airy promises offering everything that everyone wants; product status: vaporware; market status: you can donate! Sadly, CCP can only sell EVE on what it actually does. The Star Citizen team operate under no such constraint. It's an MMO to people who want an EVE replacement, it's not an MMO to people who don't. It will have amazing this and multiplayer that and co-op the other and and and and... Promises are cheap; code is expensive. I'll be interested to see what they actually deliver. As I said, I think the only people who will replace EVE with this game would've replace EVE for just about anything. This includes a PS4, a new TV show, maybe a game they played before, and so on. So in reality it's not a EVE killer, but like everything it is a threat. Now the level of this is still questionable, but I hope it's a serious threat. Not so much that it kills parts of EVE or makes it where CCP has to do a 180. But, competition of any type is a good thing. However, the best competition is ones that's a serious threat. Other words there is no real reason to keep up with the user demands and to innovate the market. Anyways, what you brought up was very important to note. One thing I would like to add on to what you said is to buy in all the hype. It doesn't matter what company I've seen that uses hype. Almost all the company can not deliver on all of it's promises. Also, we must watch out for the wording they put out. I think game companies are worst than politicians when it comes to wording something that sounds so sweet, but it turns out to be something you already have or worst. A few examples I can give is the newest SIm City (5), the newest Hitman game, the newest Assassins Creed, and the worst would be Fable 2 and 3. Right now they haven't promised and shown much. Everything they promised so far can be done with a handful of amature video game makers. That's why I only invested $40 into them. However, the potential is there. That's why everyone is so excited about this game. Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt
General Stewie Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload 21	Posted - 2013.07.10 15:24:00 - [47] - Quote https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/29779/people-expect-too-much-from-new-stretchgoals/p1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76UF2gnLKho https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/12879-Death-Of-A-Spaceman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0qXEAqYIH8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABhWNBJgkQY http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/10/star-citizen-chris-roberts-concept-art-screenshots/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M995Mqr67E eee :D
Kijo Rikki Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables 473	Posted - 2013.07.10 16:39:00 - [48] - Quote This is sort of like comparing circuit racing such as F1, Indy & NASCAR to the NHRA. While you can certainly make a case to compare any of the former three, there is not much in common with the NHRA other than it is a type of racing. Sure, SC will be an MMO of sorts with in-game economies and yadda yadda but at the end of the day it is still a twitch based fighter sim MMO and will appeal largely to a different crowd than EvE does.
Craig Bennett2th Bennett Corp Epsilon Shimmy Alliance 102	Posted - 2013.07.10 17:20:00 - [49] - Quote Kijo Rikki wrote: This is sort of like comparing circuit racing such as F1, Indy & NASCAR to the NHRA. While you can certainly make a case to compare any of the former three, there is not much in common with the NHRA other than it is a type of racing. Sure, SC will be an MMO of sorts with in-game economies and yadda yadda but at the end of the day it is still a twitch based fighter sim MMO and will appeal largely to a different crowd than EvE does. You're forgetting EVE is much more than a PVP or a fighting PVE. Pretty much they said they were going to touch into everything EVE does (they just haven't said exactly how). An example is, they said some things like you have to scan down things when you're exploring. We already have to do this with EVE. Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt
Brujo Loco Brujeria Teologica 972	Posted - 2013.07.10 17:21:00 - [50] - Quote I am a proud Kickstarter Backer for it and will simply wait. Worst case scenario I will lose 20$ , middle ground scenario I get a new shiny game to play for a couple months and ... Best case scenario I will have a SECOND MMO to call home when I am bored of the puerile talk in the ingame channels and people complaining about their ex-wives, lack of women, lack of sex, horrendous grammar in at least two languages, racism, Latinamerica versus Spain, sexually confused teenagers posing as adult men, guys that share strange ****, people confessing to pseudo-illegal sex habits and whatnot ... sometimes I wonder why I go into SPANISH, but then, some cool people there ... MINING is a bit more lively, with the free bounties and tranny pics, but I am derailing ... But yes, when I am a bit bored of EVE I hope I can jump into SC and do something interesting. Yes. Piloting my own ship would be a huge improvement over the way EVE ships move. Dots in space with heading Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 1315	Posted - 2013.07.10 19:39:00 - [51] - Quote Brujo Loco wrote: I am a proud Kickstarter Backer for it and will simply wait. Worst case scenario I will lose 20$ , middle ground scenario I get a new shiny game to play for a couple months and ... Best case scenario I will have a SECOND MMO to call home when I am bored of the puerile talk in the ingame channels and people complaining about their ex-wives, lack of women, lack of sex, horrendous grammar in at least two languages, racism, Latinamerica versus Spain, sexually confused teenagers posing as adult men, guys that share strange **, people confessing to pseudo-illegal sex habits and whatnot ... sometimes I wonder why I go into SPANISH, but then, some cool people there ... MINING is a bit more lively, with the free bounties and tranny pics, but I am derailing ... But yes, when I am a bit bored of EVE I hope I can jump into SC and do something interesting. Yes. Piloting my own ship would be a huge improvement over the way EVE ships move. Dots in space with heading Doh, Spanish is quite bearable if you block the right people right as they look like they would better be blocked... but then I usually log in there in Spain time so maybe there's few nuts than in L-A time... CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility"** ...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha.
Doc Severide Caldari Provisions Caldari State 31	Posted - 2013.07.17 11:13:00 - [52] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: ...as there's fewer PC gamers. I don't believe thats true. I just think too many media outlets perpetuate that lie but some things I've read over the last few years tells me the number of people who play on PC's is still up there. Sure a lot of them own consoles now, but in their house PC Gaming is the rule... But you have good posts pal...
Shalua Rui Rui Freelance Mining 17505	Posted - 2013.07.17 11:42:00 - [53] - Quote As much as I loved the Wing Commander series back in the day... nope, I will not keep my hopes up for SC. Chris Roberts, like Richard Garriot and Peter Moli... noux? smirks always have been visionary developers, but they made their best games in the 80ies and 90ies... there is a reason nothing even remotely good has come from them over the last 10+ years. Sure, the ideas Chris has for SC look cool, but I don't think he really knows how to make all that possible yet... we will see. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Random McNally Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 21362	Posted - 2013.07.17 11:45:00 - [54] - Quote Official "Wait and See" crew checking in..... Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ UNBAN SAEDE!-á ALICE SAKI FOR OOPE MODERATOR!-á Make it so!

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