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Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
502
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:42:00 -
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So many miners losing ships because they refuse to buy a simple permit...
I had to euthanise thirteen ships and seven pods because they were involved in illegal mining operations over the weekend and the rest of the New Order had killed many more.
Please, do the right thing and buy a permit and obey the New Haliama Code of Conduct, otherwise your ship and capsule might be put out of the misery of a non-compliant life.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
945
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:48:00 -
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I had to take care of one myself as well. It made me sick to my stomach to see 21 afk miners in a white glaze belt this morning. I wanted to go back and enforce the Code until there were no more law breakers, but I decided that a good night of sleep would make me more productive for peak time tomorrow.
Of course, if miners take a holiday Sunday, we won't need to enforce the law.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Zero Sum Gain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.07 11:58:00 -
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Perhaps if the occasion cost of replacing a barge isn't bringing the results you want, another approach to really hit home and instill the fear in the mining heart should be considered. Such as taking over the buy sell order market of the entire region so they're forced into hauling or coming to you to sell and buy permits.
Then you could reallocate forces to region choke points and lock down all attempts to haul out of region.
This new learning amazes me sir Bedimere. Tell me again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquake. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
504
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Posted - 2013.07.07 12:07:00 -
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Zero Sum Gain wrote:Perhaps if the occasion cost of replacing a barge isn't bringing the results you want, another approach to really hit home and instill the fear in the mining heart should be considered. Such as taking over the buy sell order market of the entire region so they're forced into hauling or coming to you to sell and buy permits.
Then you could reallocate forces to region choke points and lock down all attempts to haul out of region.
As much as I would love to hit miners where it hurts - in the freighting phase - game mechanics make that extremely difficult in high sec unless you have the level of resources Miniluv has.
Also it can be difficult to know whether that freighter you see in high sec is carrying illegally harvested minerals, legally harvested minerals, or hundreds of Catalyst hulls, t2 neutron blasters and t2 magstabs. Seeing a Charon kill mail with 100 Cata hulls, 800 small blasters, 100 of each relevant rig, 300 magstabs, 200 sebos and 10400 charges of Void S would bring a tear to my eye.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Daimon Kaiera
Kraken.
372
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:36:00 -
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I'm not part of your order and I blap miners indescriminately. (Okay, maybe not procurers and skiffs.) What does it matter to me if they buy a permit or not?
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Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP
Mass Overload
327
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Posted - 2013.07.07 19:26:00 -
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Hisec |
Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:41:00 -
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Daimon Kaiera wrote:I'm not part of your order and I blap miners indescriminately. (Okay, maybe not procurers and skiffs.) What does it matter to me if they buy a permit or not?
Obeying the Code is only protection against New Order operatives. We don't provide protection from other people that might want to confiscate mining equipment.
Miners would be advised to pay for whitelist standings from Miniluv, for instance, if they operate in or around Uedama.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Tinker Vuld
New Order Logistics
CODE.
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:23:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Daimon Kaiera wrote:I'm not part of your order and I blap miners indescriminately. (Okay, maybe not procurers and skiffs.) What does it matter to me if they buy a permit or not? Obeying the Code is only protection against New Order operatives. We don't provide protection from other people that might want to confiscate mining equipment. Miners would be advised to pay for whitelist standings from Miniluv, for instance, if they operate in or around Uedama.
Just to add to Sabriz Adoudel's sound advice...
A common misconception is that by buying a New Order Mining Permit one becomes immune to members of the New Order who are galliantly enforcing The Code.
The Permit forms only one part of The Code, albeit a very important part. It is, after all, called the New Halaima Code of Conduct and requires miners to conduct themslves as respectable highsec citizens. As a part of this, miners who follow The Code correctly will find that indescriminent blapping will not happen to them. They will be well tanked and keenly watching local and their overview so they can take necessary action to avoid such situations.
For those wanting to brush up on the details follow the link in my sig and head to the page entitled "The Code"
The New Order, here to help.
www.minerbumping.com - study it, live it, breathe it, for The Code shall set you free. |
QuakeGod
Empire Manufacturing
36
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:27:00 -
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....or I can just wade into your system with a fleet of 300k EHP mining Rokh's and Orca's and you'll just have to like it. |
Tinker Vuld
New Order Logistics
CODE.
4
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Posted - 2013.07.08 05:22:00 -
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wade in friend
www.minerbumping.com - study it, live it, breathe it, for The Code shall set you free. |
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Job Valador
Super Moose Defence Force
77
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:14:00 -
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And folks keep saying that I am a fool for mining in wormholes. "Its too dangerous!!!!" I think not 
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Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
505
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:20:00 -
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QuakeGod wrote:....or I can just wade into your system with a fleet of 300k EHP mining Rokh's and Orca's and you'll just have to like it.
Some mining ships are more difficult to euthanize than others, but nothing is invincible. Not even the Veldenaught (which really should be ganked someday)
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Plastic Psycho
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:05:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Daimon Kaiera wrote:I'm not part of your order and I blap miners indescriminately. (Okay, maybe not procurers and skiffs.) What does it matter to me if they buy a permit or not? Obeying the Code is only protection against New Order operatives. We don't provide protection from other people that might want to confiscate mining equipment. Miners would be advised to pay for whitelist standings from Miniluv, for instance, if they operate in or around Uedama. Uedama has been my center of operations since I raised the Jolly Roger. It's become fairly clear who are, and who are not the bots or AFK'ers - I log in, and people start docking up.
Clearly, some are are just not getting the message, though... Just popped a hauler trying to remove mineral lootz. Wish I'd a smart-bombing BC or BS on-hand, though - The barges filling the hauler woke up and got away whilst I was re-shipping.
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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
657
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Posted - 2013.07.08 13:35:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:QuakeGod wrote:....or I can just wade into your system with a fleet of 300k EHP mining Rokh's and Orca's and you'll just have to like it. Some mining ships are more difficult to euthanize than others, but nothing is invincible. Not even the Veldenaught (which really should be ganked someday)
Go for it. Try to gank the veldenaught. I want to see the outcome. Something tells me it would not be a pretty sight. Just let ccp know ahead of time. I have a feeling that getting that many people in system fast enough to not have Chribba notice and warp out, then having them all engage, and the resulting concord swarms, especially considering it in .9 or 1.0 sec, would probably crash the node.
Also, how does concord respond in time dialation? Are they also slowed or no? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
8825
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Posted - 2013.07.08 13:54:00 -
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I would like to see this too, just let me know so I can prepare ok? 
Hats off to the suicide fleet that pulls it off!
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Cannibal Kane
Temple of Kane
2002
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Posted - 2013.07.08 13:56:00 -
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Chribba... Chribba... Chribba...
Do you have software that trolls eve to notify you if somebody mentions you name?
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Plastic Psycho
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
57
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Posted - 2013.07.08 13:57:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:QuakeGod wrote:....or I can just wade into your system with a fleet of 300k EHP mining Rokh's and Orca's and you'll just have to like it. Some mining ships are more difficult to euthanize than others, but nothing is invincible. Not even the Veldenaught (which really should be ganked someday) Go for it. Try to gank the veldenaught. I want to see the outcome. Something tells me it would not be a pretty sight. Just let ccp know ahead of time. I have a feeling that getting that many people in system fast enough to not have Chribba notice and warp out, then having them all engage, and the resulting concord swarms, especially considering it in .9 or 1.0 sec, would probably crash the node.
I'd say you'd need a series of suicide pointers, holding the Veldnaught down until critical forces can arrive. Best practice would be to have the gankers logged-off in adjacent systems, logging in just prior to 'kick-off,' then gating in and warping to a scout whilst the suicide pointers hold him down, pointing and getting popped in sequence. Or maybe some hard-core bumpers to keep him from aligning? Or all the above.
Could be messy. And hilarious.
Quote:Also, how does concord respond in time dialation? Are they also slowed or no? IME, they also seem slowed. Of course, my experience with that is strictly limited to Burn Jita I. Things may've changed. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
8825
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Posted - 2013.07.08 14:11:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Chribba... Chribba... Chribba...
Do you have software that trolls eve to notify you if somebody mentions you name?
There's certain keywords that when said lands me a notification yes
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Plastic Psycho
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
57
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:13:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Chribba... Chribba... Chribba...
Do you have software that trolls eve to notify you if somebody mentions you name? There's certain keywords that when said lands me a notification yes
Speak the Devil's name, and he appears.  |
No Alibi
Shadow Brokers
29
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:38:00 -
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QuakeGod wrote:....or I can just wade into your system with a fleet of 300k EHP mining Rokh's and Orca's and you'll just have to like it.
Yup Yup, Suck it up buttercups.... A change is a comin'...
I fly by the seat of my pants, No wonder my-áass is always on fire! |
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Donovan Draknevov
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
3
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Posted - 2013.07.08 21:12:00 -
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See, I'm glad I don't operate out of New Order controlled space. I don't AFK mine (in fact, as of late, I find myself mining only for small runs of BPs I have) but I really don't feel like dealing with any of this stuff. I do like what you guys do though. I've never liked AFK miners. Half the fun of the game is controlling every little minutae of the game.
Trust in the Rust |
Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP
Mass Overload
328
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Posted - 2013.07.08 22:35:00 -
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Can you bump titan with mwd orcas or rorqual? |
Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:07:00 -
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Any gank attempt on the Veldnaught would require a massive bumping effort.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Private Pineapple
Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability
Reckless Ambition
380
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:59:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Chribba... Chribba... Chribba...
Do you have software that trolls eve to notify you if somebody mentions you name?
Of course he does... he made eve-search, remember?
I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum. |
Private Pineapple
Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability
Reckless Ambition
380
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Posted - 2013.07.09 13:00:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Any gank attempt on the Veldnaught would require a massive bumping effort.
Hmm... reminds me of the freighter crybaby in General Discussion
I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum. |
Kimo Khan
Novum Matutinus
115
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Posted - 2013.07.09 13:43:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:QuakeGod wrote:....or I can just wade into your system with a fleet of 300k EHP mining Rokh's and Orca's and you'll just have to like it. Some mining ships are more difficult to euthanize than others, but nothing is invincible. Not even the Veldenaught (which really should be ganked someday)
If someone does that, they better make a video of it. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
520
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Posted - 2013.07.11 02:08:00 -
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Tragic. Another day, another Hulk that needed to be put out of its miserable existence.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
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Posted - 2013.07.16 03:49:00 -
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And there go three more Mackinaws. My skills weren't quite high enough to feast on their pods, which has inspired me to finally train Rapid Firing 5, Surgical Strike 4 and 5 and (maybe, we shall see on this one) Small Blaster Specialisation 5.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
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