we (CareBears United) are now officially against TEST as well... just was in VFK and had a 5 goon killstreak when a test fleet showed up... as I did have a bubble in cargo I told them they should fleet me up and I can place it infront of the station, they did, however as soon as I uncloaked they dropped the fleet and engaged, my ship was able to escape however

this is so rediculous, they prefer to shoot down one catalyst instead of having a bubble infront of mittanigrad, it would have been perfect, ca 10-20 ships all sieged up... those people... I honestly think the space vacuum does no good to their brains

This is EVE, if they don't know you why should they trust you?

they think thats so hardcore doing this kind of stuff, but its just crackbrained

You have some kind of critical misunderstanding about how this game works.

I'm pretty sure I said in the main thread, just shoot all the things.

test. rest. i like it.

please also consider the following: best, nest, pest, kestrel, quest, vest, xerxes, arrest, zest, lest

we (CareBears United)... just was in VFK and had a 5 goon killstreak when a test fleet showed up... as I did have a bubble in cargo I told them they should fleet me up and I can place it infront of the station, they did, however as soon as I uncloaked they dropped the fleet and engaged, my ship was able to escape however

this is so rediculous, they prefer to shoot down one catalyst instead of having a bubble infront of mittanigrad, it would have been perfect, ca 10-20 ships all sieged up... those people... I honestly think the space vacuum does no good to their brains

" are now officially against TEST as well" err.. what ? when was any carebear for test (pets and suppliers excluded)

Here's how nullsec works, unless you're in providence: If you're not blue, green, or purple you get shot.

Sometimes even if you're blue, green, or purple.

If its red, its dead. If its not red, its also dead. If its blue, it's probably going to die.

they did that because they think you are one of the many alts of the Mittani, just like James 315, Chribba, Molic, VV, and Psychotic monk.

all those guys are alts of the mittani, and so are you.

they did that because they think you are one of the many alts of the Mittani, just like James 315, Chribba, Molic, VV, and Psychotic monk.

all those guys are alts of the mittani, and so are you.

they did it, because they did not have the appropriate processingpower to understand my simple tactic

On behalf of my alliance I'd like to express my deepest regrets for any inconveniences we might have caused you.
Attacking a neutral player deep inside hostile territory in 0.0 is simply unforgivable, but since we usually try to minimize collateral damage and civil casualties as much as possible, I sincerely hope that you might be able to excuse this unfortunate incident.

test. rest. i like it.

please also consider the following: best, nest, pest, kestrel, quest, vest, xerxes, arrest, zest, lest

I had two attempts with your "alliance" both ended unpleasant, first was your diplos second was this fleet of scumbags... I excuse myself for bombing your members to heaven in the future

TEST? In VKF? Why would we go to that shithole?


And I think you're the new Socratic.

So let's see....

Harry is actually doing what everybody says people should be doing.


And encountered some of the standard asshattery "kill everything that moves" mentality of nullsec.


He writes about it.


Now, first, there is no "personal vendetta". You neckbeards need to stop acting like highsec miners who got ganked, acting like this program is personal. We have here a game where you can put weapons on most of the ships except those specifically designed for other roles (Badgers are an exception it seems). Just seeing all of the butthurt over "carebears go to nullsec" is well worth the time and ISK I put into supplying Harry with hundreds of ships. That's right, he's the Energizer Bunny now. And I'm not the only benefactor. Heck there are others who put me to shame and have provided things I can't talk about.

Second, all this "let me tell you how nullsec works" crap. Let me tell you something, Harry and his cohorts KNOW exactly how nullsec "works" and that's what is fueling this endeavor.

Oh so nullsec "works" by:
- Bending your knees before some existing corporatist feudalistic nullsec entity (renter corp or "owning" alliance) and paying taxes to them so they can pay a billion ISK a month for the all holy "SOV" just for the right to run anoms and be just as much as a carebear as someone grinding LVL 4s in a pimped ship highsec.
- Killing everything that moves and/or "not blue" (because there's consequences if you kill blue and it's all about not having consequences) for no particular reason.
- Following orders of sorts. For people who scream "this is a sandbox!" you certainly love being told what kind of where where regarding the sandcastles you build. Just look at the butthurt Harry is causing by not doing it "your way". Funny thing is, it's only the way of nullsec overlords, but I see players adopting it likes it's "their way". Stockholm Syndrome much?
- Putting your crap neckbeardery up as some kind of superior lifestyle while being carebears safely past the gank pipelines and bubble camps and then acting like highsec is the wellspring from whence all that is wrong in the game flows. The truth is, a casual highsec player is simply not as miserable as a nullsec player and most if the nullbears can't stand that.



Now, as for "personal", attacking nullsec cannot be personal because who knows anybody personally enough? Nobody. Sure, people will parrot "it's just a game" while at the same time enjoying real world tears. So I know there's a big lie going on here. This is why the most dangerous thing to this "system" is so much as a small minority of "bears" who don't care about ships being destroyed and getting podded. Oooh we are all supposed to be afraid of that! Bullshit. This is a game. It's a PVP game too. Yeah there are some people who won't. So what. A lot of people lack time for a good game of cat and mouse. So what. The very essence of the grand struggle of ideals is this nasty habit that people have for sitting around hating on or being concerned with how or what other people are doing.


It's NULLSEC that makes is personal and makes is "serious business". Nobody asked them. Oh the horror, people going to nullsec in T1 ships and cheap clones, attacking the residents there, who "worked so hard" because that's how nullsec works!

So, with that level of potential butthurtery the "system" of nullsec has set itself up for, did nullsec expect highsec to believe the "you get ganked in two seconds!!!!1!!!eleven (unless you first join a nullsec corp or alliance after years of building SP and ISK)" lies?

Nullsec PAYS to be there. People go there to rack up ISK, then complain about people racking up ISK in highsec because those people have not bent over too.

The days of shoot-everything-that-moves for no reason is going to come to an end. There will still be alliances - those that are not going to play King of the Space Mountain, those that have an NRDS policy. Otherwise, new players will be encouraged to start in PVP early on, and go to nullsec, and hunt targets. They will be aimed at those who want to kill everything that's "not blue". If it were up to me, nullsec would be a deserted belt of PVP and mining. But hey, some of you fools want to bring RL to a game and "work" out there and then be butthurt when someone else wants to tell your beloved system to stick it so don't blame it on me when the inevitable happens.

And highsec has the capability to do it too. It has the numbers, it has the production slots (though I admit that nullsec needs more) and oh, want to dec people? Fine it's "drop corp" time because it's not about your system it's about PVP in every way using every tool.


What we must finally wage war against is not a specific organization, nor a specific kind of player, but a specific system based on an ideology. Up to now, it has been perfectly acceptable to bring "emergent gameplay" to highsec and burn Jita.

Why not the other way around?

What I have seen in the mostly deserted nullsec (been out there for months exploring without seeing other ships) is the same mentality of that could be compared to people who fly 30 billion ISK pimp ships and blitz incursions all day. Nullsec has the addition of this corporatist feudalistic system that appears to appeal only to people who like that crap - those running it along with those victimized by it but convince themselves they like it (lest they realize they have been fooled).


So remember, laugh at Harry all you want, but all that millions and millions of ISK you make "per hour" means that if you spend an hour trying to hunt some noob in a dessie that cost 5 million ISK for the noob, that dessie cost YOU the ISK you lost.

Asymmetric warfare is the future of Eve. Get with it or be sad panda.

...they are all traitors, scammers and liars, god we need to do a lot of cleaning in 0 sec

Asymmetric warfare is the future of Eve. Get with it or be sad panda.

carebears united are a special group of kamikaze bears bringing pain and justice to null sec

this is so rediculous, they prefer to shoot down one catalyst instead of having a bubble infront of mittanigrad, it would have been perfect, ca 10-20 ships all sieged up... those people... I honestly think the space vacuum does no good to their brains

however as soon as I uncloaked they dropped the fleet and engaged

Test is a Nest of Pests in Vests that had Best be put to Rest with Zest.. by Xerxes?

best, pest, arrest, zest, lest

I was going to reply, but when someone who rants against goons bangs on and on about neckbeards and butthurt, then I have to ask

Are you a goon alt?

Also, you have a lot of hatred for people you have never met. Is this healthy?


The level of ad hominem you throw at a wide group of individuals "
You are all....
You neckbeards....
The truth is, a casual highsec player is simply not as miserable as a nullsec player and most if the nullbears can't stand that.
Bending your knees before some existing corporatist feudalistic nullsec entity (renter corp or "owning" alliance) and paying taxes to them so they can pay a billion ISK a month for the all holy "SOV" just for the right to run anoms and be just as much as a carebear as someone grinding LVL 4s in a pimped ship highsec.

You think sov gives only the access to anoms?

How do you think Null will have the extra building slots you say it needs, without sov, or blues?

You seem to think in a setup where no body is friends with anybody, then everyone will help each other.

"Yer gonna need a bigger boat... " True story.

"We dont want to force our playstyle on anyone, unlike the nullsec people we hate, but, get with our program or else"

why would we hunt a ship that can't do anything except kill cyno frigs?

Frankly, I think it's negativity like this that keeps your "movement" from ever growing to a size where you could actually achieve things.
As much as I like the idea of highsec players (a.k.a. "carebears") standing up and taking up arms against their alleged oppressors- you are simply doing it wrong. From your first thread on it always sounded like a private vendetta- and people are not very likely to follow you just to help you get your personal revenge.
Your ego stands between you and the ambitious goal that you want to achieve, and as long as you let it dictate your every move, you can't achieve victory.
Let go of your ego. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water.
Be water, my friend.

hey are you one of those dudes that angrily (I picture someone furiously masturbating at their keyboard) bombs entire fleets on gates solo?

Nice tactic dude...and cloaking catalysts in 0.0. Pure brilliance there, I am going to have to take this information to the highest of command levels.

edit: Nullsec works by asking for invites to random alliance fleets then raging to the forums about being shot at.

They had no reason to trust you, OP. Why would they not shoot the random guy that requests a fleet when he might bubble them up and light a cyno for a nice little band of CFC guys or others to come through and start blapping them? Honestly, you need to do what one of the other posters mentioned and let go of your ego and your personal vendetta against the Goons if you want to be able to lead your organization or group to do important things in the Fountain front.

The nice thing about this war is that if Goons get hurt I can easily be glad about that, and when Test gets hurt that's still pretty cool. But you can't just declare friendship in null sec, that's not the way it works. However, if you got away that easily from a 20 ship fleet, I'd wonder whether they let you go.

we (CareBears United) are now officially against TEST as well... just was in VFK and had a 5 goon killstreak when a test fleet showed up... as I did have a bubble in cargo I told them they should fleet me up and I can place it infront of the station, they did, however as soon as I uncloaked they dropped the fleet and engaged, my ship was able to escape however

this is so rediculous, they prefer to shoot down one catalyst instead of having a bubble infront of mittanigrad, it would have been perfect, ca 10-20 ships all sieged up... those people... I honestly think the space vacuum does no good to their brains

had 2 warp core stabilizers :) this fit is very useful for my little party in VFK :D when i shoot, goons and stuff, they get very angry when I'm able to escape, 2 times already i just did go shoot their bait ships and when the whole army jumped in, i just warped out, very funny, goons where fuming :)

here's my fit, here's my tactics,,,,,

coming soon!

thread complaining about OP getting kllled by gank and how unfair it is that they read the forums and took the advice of the victim on how to kill him.

can you not see where you're going wrong ?

hard to keep the overview I know... the goons already know my fit, read through my comment again and guess why

you do all what others do, right?

Has it has been told before null sec rule of engagement except specific region and for those living there only, if Not Blue Shoot It.

To make it simple, purples (fleet), green (corp) blues you can ignore except when they make you angry, everything else is free fire.
And of course everyone applies this simple rule, thus you can openly say on forums you hate goons and help Test or BL PL whatever this will not change a dime to what you can expect when you see them on grid, they will pop you as soon as they can, Test usual tactic being to fleet you, warp you to them or their bble and pop you.

Welcome to null sec

I like the way you are writing Harry. It is entertaining. I will send you some ships.

people will tell storys how it was back then, before we liberated the place, we bring society to all cavemen there

It's a game that Blizzard could destroy simply by having friends join and destroy it with a TEST or Goon sized alliance

It will be even more fun when hundreds of HS players join us - or don't - and then just find out for themselves how 'scary' Null Sec is.

Didn't find 0.0 particularly scary, mainly thanks to local.

If its red, its dead. If its not red, its also dead. If its blue, it's probably going to die.

we (CareBears United) are now officially against TEST as well... just was in VFK and had a 5 goon killstreak when a test fleet showed up... as I did have a bubble in cargo I told them they should fleet me up and I can place it infront of the station, they did, however as soon as I uncloaked they dropped the fleet and engaged, my ship was able to escape however

this is so rediculous, they prefer to shoot down one catalyst instead of having a bubble infront of mittanigrad, it would have been perfect, ca 10-20 ships all sieged up... those people... I honestly think the space vacuum does no good to their brains

This story lost me at cloaking catalyst...

Unfortunately not in a game when folks wouldn't trust you.

Just look at the recent comments from the Goons, all those renting "blue doughnuts" are but to be had and schemed.

Which is why other games don't allow these antics in their games, as it brings anarchy, which no civilization can tolerate.

So yeah, EvE's but cavemen running berserk. If they burn down their own home; kill their young; steal their own crops and poison them, they're like their cousins the dinosaurs. It's a game that Blizzard could destroy simply by having friends join and destroy it with a TEST or Goon sized alliance (BTW, Goons play WoW. They can't destroy that game as Blizzard understands by watching games like EvE what to avoid in their community. And it's quite simple, don't allow anarchy).

Mitt isn't very bright in the scheme of things (like the other Mitt). He's but an exploiter in a "hands off" game that allows this crap to continue.

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So basically, in order to goon-proof a game, it must be more like WoW?

And this is why we need to teach every new player to be ready to burn everything down, so that it never becomes like WoW.

Perhaps the only thing that ever stopped the goons was when they discovered ISK moons and became the establishment. (or maybe their leadership thought so, and conjured up the greatest line of bullshit to ever exist in an MMO to keep their own scrubs in the dark)

Don't encourage Ace with the WoW thing.


I would think the Goons could take over part of any MMO as they're organised outside of MMOs, they don't need to recruit for a corp/guild initially as they just bring people in assuming enough want to play a particular game.

test. rest. i like it.

please also consider the following: best, nest, pest, kestrel, quest, vest, xerxes, arrest, zest, lest

Ahaha I just checked out the OP's killboard and all he is doing is blapping throwaway cyno ships :V

So wait, you are complaining, as an unknown entity that tried to join a test fleet with a "bubbler" and then got shot? I mean testies are known to do stupid ****, but inviting someone not blue with a bubble to their fleet based on their word, will have been up there with bringing more cap ships to a cap fight they are trying to disengage from.

I applaud your efforts to venture into null sec, but do you know what null secers don't do when they lose a ship? Come to the forums and complain on how they got shot.

So wait, you are complaining, as an unknown entity that tried to join a test fleet with a "bubbler" and then got shot? I mean testies are known to do stupid ****, but inviting someone not blue with a bubble to their fleet based on their word, will have been up there with bringing more cap ships to a cap fight they are trying to disengage from.

I applaud your efforts to venture into null sec, but do you know what null secers don't do when they lose a ship? Come to the forums and complain on how they got shot.

Harry knows a bit more about Null sec he pretends knowing, he also knows a bit more about many other stuff in the game he pretends to know.

What a humble personage

I'm sure thats something to thinkabout for all the smartass people telling me how to play

Yes. How about we smart people shush for a moment and let you tell us how to play?

you are free to play how you want, however I think some do not know how they want to play, thats why they just do what others do... thats also the reason why they keep telling me: this is eve you have to to things this and that way... they just stick to what some did say and follow them, scared to try something new

Fit out a Rupture with rails and tell me how it worked out for you.

you missed the point ;) I do what I do, you do what you do, no need telling me what to do, understand?

No, you miss the point. You felt the need to make a post about it all and that is where the problem is.

Yes. How about we smart people shush for a moment and let you tell us how to play?

No, you miss the point. You felt the need to make a post about it all and that is where the problem is.

Here's how nullsec works, unless you're in providence: If you're not blue, green, or purple you get shot.

Sometimes even if you're blue, green, or purple.

They are all traitors, scammers and liars

i would personally shoot the first FC that lets someone into the fleet where i'm flying along with such a story. True story bro, you're obviously not experienced in 0.0 You're blue or you gtfo. Its THAT simple.

Btw there's reasons for this hostility. You're just not seeing it.

i would personally shoot the first FC that lets someone into the fleet where i'm flying along with such a story. True story bro, you're obviously not experienced in 0.0 You're blue or you gtfo. Its THAT simple.

Btw there's reasons for this hostility. You're just not seeing it.

I have no hatred for anybody personally and hope that all fellow players of this game have a good time.

What I do rage against are the false paradigms created and fostered by people who have managed to master the strawman tactics of putting everybody in the position to be accused of being butthurt when in fact they have positioned themselves for more epic butthurt than even the most AFK carebear auto piloting a faction fit hauler in Eudema.

why was this thread necro'd?

here's my fit, here's my tactics,,,,,

coming soon!

thread complaining about OP getting kllled by gank and how unfair it is that they read the forums and took the advice of the victim on how to kill him.

can you not see where you're going wrong ?

There is never a bad time to make fun of TEST or Harry Forever.

Ahaha I just checked out the OP's killboard and all he is doing is blapping throwaway cyno ships :V

Much more will be accomplished by returning fire, versus scratching your head. There are no space heaters in nullsec. It's a cold-ass place.

So wait, you are complaining, as an unknown entity that tried to join a test fleet with a "bubbler" and then got shot? I mean testies are known to do stupid ****, but inviting someone not blue with a bubble to their fleet based on their word, will have been up there with bringing more cap ships to a cap fight they are trying to disengage from.

I applaud your efforts to venture into null sec, but do you know what null secers don't do when they lose a ship? Come to the forums and complain on how they got shot.

No, you miss the point. You felt the need to make a post about it all and that is where the problem is.

There is never a bad time to make fun of TEST or Harry Forever.

Thank you for your valuable contributions to this discussion

There is never a bad time to make fun of TEST or Harry Forever.

So let's see....

Harry is actually doing what everybody says people should be doing.


And encountered some of the standard asshattery "kill everything that moves" mentality of nullsec.


He writes about it.


Now, first, there is no "personal vendetta". You neckbeards need to stop acting like highsec miners who got ganked, acting like this program is personal. We have here a game where you can put weapons on most of the ships except those specifically designed for other roles (Badgers are an exception it seems). Just seeing all of the butthurt over "carebears go to nullsec" is well worth the time and ISK I put into supplying Harry with hundreds of ships. That's right, he's the Energizer Bunny now. And I'm not the only benefactor. Heck there are others who put me to shame and have provided things I can't talk about.

So let's see....



Asymmetric warfare is the future of Eve. Get with it or be sad panda.

Lots of groups do this already. None of them are as clueless as Harry and they all inflict far greater economic damage than Harry. Asymmetric warfare has been a favoured PVP lifestyle in low and null sec since the beginning. Check out groups like Rooks and Kings, BL and Darkside just to mention the 1st three that entered my head.
Some people are very very skilled at this and understand how it works. Harry is the opposite of this.
Fleeting up with a cloaky ship is a standard tactic for locating a cloaky ship. Harry should have known this.
Putting a cloak on a ganking ship not designed for a cloak delays targeting so much that the only things you will catch are cyno ships. He most likely also has warp core stabs on it too. These are some of the reasons (apart from the spamming of the forums with ill thought through ideas) that Harry is mocked so often.

Lots of groups do this already. None of them are as clueless as Harry and they all inflict far greater economic damage than Harry. Asymmetric warfare has been a favoured PVP lifestyle in low and null sec since the beginning. Check out groups like Rooks and Kings, BL and Darkside just to mention the 1st three that entered my head.
Some people are very very skilled at this and understand how it works. Harry is the opposite of this.
Fleeting up with a cloaky ship is a standard tactic for locating a cloaky ship. Harry should have known this.
Putting a cloak on a ganking ship not designed for a cloak delays targeting so much that the only things you will catch are cyno ships. He most likely also has warp core stabs on it too. These are some of the reasons (apart from the spamming of the forums with ill thought through ideas) that Harry is mocked so often.

3 year olds can get the kills you guys are doing

look out test harry might shoot your self-destructing cyno ships too

look out test harry might shoot your self-destructing cyno ships too

I'm positively chuffed at the image of the rich highsec fat-cats conspiring atop their filthy lucre before finally sending forth... Harry Forever.

You'd think all those billions could buy you a better class of mercenary.

rediculous

Before the ISD also call this a troll: This is NOT intended to get an "emotional response". It IS intended to get an "intelligent response" in the form of "oh yeah, he's right. I should take more care in my posts if I wish them to be taken seriously."

Thank you.

Sol.

Grammar Police

As much as i appreciate posts which are correctly written, i think that there is an essential point you have forgotten :
A huge amount, maybe even the majority of the players, are not native from an english speaking country. So i think you could be a bit more tolerant and opem minded. Writing with errors doesn't always mean that we are lazy or stupid. We are simply maybe not writing in our mother language.

for all they know you coulda had a cyno on your dessy and had a fleet waiting to be titan bridged to you.

This word. Come on, dude.

The word is RID-IC-U-LOUS. RID ICK YOU LOUS... The first syllable is RID... Not Ree. Rid. Ridiculous.

Before you say "troll", you probably don't understand that word anyways. Before you say "derail", you probably don't understand that anyway. And, Jimmy crack corn... because I don't care.

MY point is that YOUR point can not be taken seriously when you cannot present it in an intelligent way.

Whatever your point was, is no longer important to me. Call me what you will (Grammar Police). And dismiss this if you wish. Just know that your ideas and thoughts are also dismissed because you can't grasp a simple concept.

Thank you.

Sol

Before the ISD also call this a troll: This is NOT intended to get an "emotional response". It IS intended to get an "intelligent response" in the form of "oh yeah, he's right. I should take more care in my posts if I wish them to be taken seriously."

Thank you.

Sol.