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Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.13 16:00:00 -
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Come on.. CCP must do something about this BS!
There is many pirates with high (+) sec status, and we cant even set a "real" bounty on their heads. This is wierd? Ofcourse u can hire a bounty hunter etc... But I think u should loose ALL your + and get to - if u shoot at anyone, or worse, kill someone...=(
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Terrell
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Posted - 2003.08.13 17:19:00 -
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I agree with this one, you should be dumped into the negs no matter what your sec status if you pod someone in high sec space.
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Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.13 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: Zakura on 13/08/2003 18:26:37
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I agree with this one, you should be dumped into the negs no matter what your sec status if you pod someone in high sec space.
Hell yeha! I really hope they fix this soon .. I mean the police likes him more than me, and have podded alot more ppl than me (well I havent really podded someone yet:P)
grr...
(him = Quantum Matrix 8.0 Sec Status, and a pirate)
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.13 20:23:00 -
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You'll find that pirates with a positive security rating are the most dangerous.
After all, they attack players in non-empire space and those players are likely to be armed to the teeth.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.13 20:31:00 -
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we do go negative for podding in empire space.
But I only pod people in the wilderness, and very rarely, too. I prefer to let them make the journey home at 150m/s 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.13 20:35:00 -
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I suffered my first podkilling 2 days ago.
Some evil bastard obliterated me with a single press of a button.
Me and the self-destruct button.
64 jumps home from Stain was just too much to bear 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.13 21:14:00 -
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well that Quantum Matrix and his 10 Space invaders friends TRIED to pod kill me in my bestower, with their BS's - but I got away - Ejected.. well lost my bestower =( .. But I hop that Quantum Matrix will die soon, 3.5M could be worth risk killing him? .. I will maybe raise the bounty on the pig..
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.08.13 23:44:00 -
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Blah, Blah, Blah
I've been playing for a month and hell I'm still a damn noob. Of course I almost had my ass handed over to me in 0.0 while I was in my Thorax (thanks Tolstoy, hehe) and hell if I didn't deserve it. I enjoy the pirates, hell even those pod killers out there. You make me look at my map and keep me from taking a crap while jumping from system to system. You make me think twice when I park my Iteron for a little afk 1.0 mining. Awesome. I know what to/not to do.... But hell if I did my first few days. I agree with a noob sector for each race/class. I agree that 1.0 space could be off limits to those of us who are above the law so to speak. I enjoy the game the way it is. I just hate explaining crap to all my other noob pals out there that got PK'd thier first day playing that it doesn't happen everyday and how to avoid sticky situations. Call me lazy but oh well. |
Syphin
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Posted - 2003.08.13 23:50:00 -
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Perhaps agents could be used. If you had a good agent you could have him pull some "strings" and reduce the sec rating of someone. If they can raise secs up why can't they lower them? Of course you would have to put in a way to stop from one agent raising and another lowering and back and forth until one of them goes broke. This could also be used to get ore thieves and if you want someone to be "taken care of" it could be possible.
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Digital Sin
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Posted - 2003.08.14 00:01:00 -
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hehe calvert, i make that trip almost daily. 54 jumps each way just to ferry items. dropped off my apocalypse, then went all the way back up in an ibis, then went all the way back down in my raven, then went back up in my raven, then went back down..... now i have to do it all over again to bring some crystals up. 
"To be content,to be comfortable, is to be complacent. No one learns anything from pleasure..pain on the other hand is a most efficient instructor" |
Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.08.14 01:20:00 -
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"I agree with this one, you should be dumped into the negs no matter what your sec status if you pod someone in high sec space."
Wow. Harsh. A player spends months getting a high sec rating and then loses it all when he pods an ore theif. :(
"well that Quantum Matrix and his 10 Space invaders friends TRIED to pod kill me in my bestower, with their BS's - but I got away - Ejected.. well lost my bestower =( "
Uh, they were after the bestower, not you. ;)
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Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.14 01:40:00 -
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Uh, they were after the bestower, not you. ;)
no.. they destroyed it - could not use it lol..
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.08.14 02:40:00 -
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And got the loot, who cares about smelly old you. No profit in killing you is there?
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Quantum Matrix
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Posted - 2003.08.14 03:08:00 -
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Wow, I feel so special. :)
I have a positive sec rating because I fought an awful lot of NPCs before I became a pirate. Destroying and podkilling in non-empire space doesn't do much for your sec rating, hence why mine is still positive. If you want to travel in 0.0 space, in a good ship, without insurance or a clone, or even some cash on you, expect the worst.
If I open a convo and am ignored, or otherwise slandered, or blocked while the ship makes full steam for the gate, I'm going to kill you, simple as that. I will give you an opportunity to pay, but you have to take it. Ignore it and you're out of luck.
-QM
What do we want?
Brains!
When do we want them?
Brains! |
SKiNNiEH
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Posted - 2003.08.14 09:10:00 -
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They should implement an option to ask a person's crimesheet @ concord. Make it cost 5000 isk to request it.
E.g.
-click crimesheet button for SKiNNiEH-
SKiNNiEH
Raven Cartel
07.03.2003 17:22:13 - Destroyed a Titan
07.03.2003 17:23:02 - Destroyed a Pod
07.13.2002 03:45:34 - Received Bounty 1.000.000
07.22.2003 13:11:45 - Lost a Shuttle
07.23.2003 13:12:13 - Clone Activated
07.23.2003 13:12:13 - Bounty Reset to 0
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This never happened ofcourse, but if you were in 0.0 space in your indy and you see me in local this would be a nice way to find out. If i had a high security rating you would still know if i would be pose a threat.
Someone here might say that in 0.0 space CONCORD wouldn't know about any killing someone might have done, but the fact is that everyone receives an email from CONCORD stating the parties involved in the destruction of your ship even if it happened in a system at the edge of the universe. So technically... a crimesheet like this should be no problem.
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Hmm... this should be in the Idea Lab :) But no DEV/Polaris dude would read it there, unless it came from TTI! TTI posts something and it immediately gets stickied there, talk about getting better treatment :).
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Malloy
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Posted - 2003.08.14 11:37:00 -
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They should implement an option to ask a person's crimesheet @ concord. Make it cost 5000 isk to request it.
YES i love this idea !
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Zakura
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Posted - 2003.08.14 12:44:00 -
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Some of u seems taking this for fun à But its not fun û Eve without pirates, would be boooooring û But piracy is tooooooooooo easy in eve û Pirates own everything. DoesnÆt ccp understand this? We ôgoodö players cant do anything û bounties are worthless, and u cant really stop them.. 
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Quantum Matrix
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Posted - 2003.08.14 12:47:00 -
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As far as I'm concerned, until you've been a pirate, you have no business commenting on how easy it is. It's far from it. There are about 4 million other threads explaining why, so I'm not going through it again. You don't like pirates and thus you want us nerfed. Deal with it, we'll be hunting you no matter how much you whine. :)
-QM
What do we want?
Brains!
When do we want them?
Brains! |
Malloy
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Posted - 2003.08.14 12:52:00 -
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it's not nerfing you cos i imagine you're negative sec. we're on about positive sec pirates who cloak themselves on local with their positive status and then can you.
as for the comment about pirates having a hard life, i can imagine there are lots of boring hours waiting for victims to turn up, but i am yet to see a pirate in a worse ship than mine, so yes it might be hard, butuntil you've mined for 2 months, you can't comment either.
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.08.19 09:36:00 -
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Um guys rap sheet is bad idea unless you limit it to like one or two days. Today alone i killed 12-15 ships and i wasnt doin so hot today. That list will get really long really fast.
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Othnark
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Posted - 2003.08.19 10:07:00 -
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Come on now, if you want to get a warning when the so called positive sec pirates show up, simply set your personal faction to them to terrible.
You have the tools, use them. Why people whine and beg for things they already have if they put 2m work into it evades me.
-Othnark
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Arud
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Posted - 2003.08.19 14:17:00 -
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I think that empires like Amarr, Caldari and so on should automaticly add to the bounty list when someone podkills in their space.
So it would be something like this,
Destroy a ship in 0.8-1.0 empire space you get a bounty added
Destroy a pod in 0.8-1.0 empire space you get a huge bounty added
Destroy a ship in 0.4-0.7 you get tiny bit added
Destroy a pod in 0.4-0.7 you get bounty added
Destroy a ship in 0.1-0.3 you get nothing added
Destroy a pod in 0.1-0.3 you get bounty added
outside of empire space its fair game
What would hope this would achive is that some of the best pirates would start hunting other pirates because there would be more money in it that way than hunting innocent miners. One other rule would be that for the biggest pod killers the bounty doesnt go away unless after a week. Same corp members would not get bounty for killing their own.
biggest exploit would be to start pod killing alot of people to get bounty and then have a friend kill you and then you share the bounty. Stop this and you have a good system.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:27:00 -
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I think every player should have 2 sec ratings. One for the character and the other for the corporation which would list the security rating of the character with the lowest security rating in the corporation.
This would tell you if the corporation allows piracy.
Attacking people in 0.0s should result in loss of 0.01 security or less. I don't think a pirate should be able to kill people all day long without loosing any security rating.
Don't flame, just an idea.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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trap
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Posted - 2003.08.19 15:47:00 -
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Personally i feel violated.... i am an upstanding member of the community and for some reason i keep getting pinned with a negative security status. i think quantum has paid someone inside the government to dish his security hits on me while he suffers no reprecussions. i mean come on ppl... how can i get security hits mining all day? OMG OMG OMG I WAS DELT A RAW DEAL!
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Lavondyss
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Posted - 2003.08.19 16:00:00 -
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Why would your security rating be effected by attacked another player in 0.0 space There is no security. No cops, no gate turrets, nothing. Wouldn't you need some sort of security forces to track acts of aggresion in order for it to count against your rating Seems pretty straight forward to me. When traveling in a 0.0 system watch your back all the time.
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SKiNNiEH
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Posted - 2003.08.19 16:14:00 -
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There is no security. No cops, no gate turrets, nothing.
Then what about the CONCORD evemail you get? They know about it no matter where it happened.
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Freddy Krueger
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Posted - 2003.08.19 16:39:00 -
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Lose your sec rating for a pod kill, rediculous. The way it is setup at the moment is just fine. I have to "work" real hard to keep my sec rating positive after doing a killing run on players. This involves killing an extremely large amount of npc's in order to boost the rating. For those "player-pirates" who have a negative rating, well it is their fault for that, and they should expect severe penalties when entering Concord space. A clever killer, keeps a positive rating, however hard to keep.
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Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2003.08.19 17:41:00 -
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+ Sec rating pirates is fair enough there are plenty of crims in RL who get over looked by the law because they are crafty and try to hide the fact they are bad.
Tibor Ferenc
The LBC
http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
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Arud
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Posted - 2003.08.19 17:51:00 -
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Tibor,
dont exactly agree with you there, a person with murder on the criminal record wont make it go away because they help old ladies over the street
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Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2003.08.19 18:11:00 -
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There are plenty of murderers and thieves that the authorities dont know about i think it would be unrealistic for there to be a universe with a perfect criminal justice system. BTW it is far from easy to be a pirate with a + security rating it takes a certain amont of care to do.
TF
The LBC
http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
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