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Lee Dalton Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 30	Posted - 2013.07.09 09:53:00 - [1] - Quote Drone Damage Mods, Omnis, etc should be usable on carriers and affect the fighters. (N.B. This should not necessarily apply to SCs and FBs)
Lee Dalton Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 30	Posted - 2013.07.09 09:54:00 - [2] - Quote (Or at least edit the tooltips if you won't change this vOv)
George Boothe Blootered Bastards 23	Posted - 2013.07.09 09:57:00 - [3] - Quote You make a compelling argument! I especially like the part were you went into depth on the pros and cons of your proposed idea and how carrier gameplay in all its facettes will be affected.
Mr Doctor Los Polos Hermanos. Happy Cartel 27	Posted - 2013.07.09 10:06:00 - [4] - Quote Carriers arent for DPS and Supers have enough DPS. End of line.
Lallante Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 365	Posted - 2013.07.09 10:35:00 - [5] - Quote Carriers/Fighters are not in need of this heavy buff, so no.
Frosty White Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance 1	Posted - 2013.07.09 11:13:00 - [6] - Quote Fighters on Carriers are essentially useless since Sentries do almost the same DPS, are 1/20th of the cost and apply damage instantly without travel time. To make Fighter somewhat useful, I'd say having Drone damage Amps apply to Fighters makes perfect sense.
Omnathious Deninard The Scope Gallente Federation 1249	Posted - 2013.07.09 12:51:00 - [7] - Quote DDAs no, fighter damage is fine. All the rest and rigs, yes they should effect fighters also. Ideas for Drone ImprovementTwitter Account-á @Omnathious
Sonja Anthari Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.07.09 17:45:00 - [8] - Quote I would completely agree with this IF They only affected fighters and gave NO bonus to fighter bombers. That would answer the problem of making fighter bombers way too OP. Otherwise I see no problem with this idea.
Drake Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 245	Posted - 2013.07.09 17:58:00 - [9] - Quote Omnathious Deninard wrote: DDAs no, fighter damage is fine. All the rest and rigs, yes they should effect fighters also. Oh it's absolutely fine, since fighters hardly out dps sentries besides on the thanatos "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--
Omnathious Deninard The Scope Gallente Federation 1249	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:30:00 - [10] - Quote Drake Doe wrote: Omnathious Deninard wrote: DDAs no, fighter damage is fine. All the rest and rigs, yes they should effect fighters also. Oh it's absolutely fine, since fighters hardly out dps sentries besides on the thanatos Carrier with 15 sentries, 900dps + 2 DDAs 1287dps Carrier with 15 fighters 1500dps Ideas for Drone ImprovementTwitter Account-á @Omnathious
Drake Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 245	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:41:00 - [11] - Quote Omnathious Deninard wrote: Drake Doe wrote: Omnathious Deninard wrote: DDAs no, fighter damage is fine. All the rest and rigs, yes they should effect fighters also. Oh it's absolutely fine, since fighters hardly out dps sentries besides on the thanatos Carrier with 15 sentries, 900dps + 2 DDAs 1287dps Carrier with 15 fighters 1500dps So a few hundred dps which can be negated by flight time if the target is more than a few km away, not to mention how easy it is to carry spare sentries compared to spare fighters. Edit: I probably shouldn't comment on something I haven't used firsthand, but I trust what people in my corp and alliance say about drones and fighters. "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--
Omnathious Deninard The Scope Gallente Federation 1249	Posted - 2013.07.09 19:03:00 - [12] - Quote Those are Damae application issues which fighters need help with badly, hence why I feel they should gain the benefit from the drone mods, but there raw DPS is fine. Ideas for Drone ImprovementTwitter Account-á @Omnathious
Dark Drifter Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 71	Posted - 2013.07.09 19:04:00 - [13] - Quote everyone seems to have missed the point that a fighter is not a drone... all the mods on your ship are directly connected to you. (including drones) a fighter / FB is a piloted craft it for all intensive purposes is an autonomous craft. the only reason you can order it around is because its pilot follows your orders. supers and carriers get bonuses to fighters/FBs because they already have the hardware built in. (no mods needed) think of the drone control unit as having an extra launch tube installed on your ship
George Boothe Blootered Bastards 24	Posted - 2013.07.09 19:25:00 - [14] - Quote As opposed to my prior post, I will actually give some input. Big difference between fighters and Sentries is, that fighters can leave the grid while sentries cannot. Giving Fighters even more dps will only promote the use of carriers as "That ship right next to our pos that sends us 2k extra dps". If you just look at dps comparision, sentries and fighters are quite equal, but their use is totally different and therefore I do not believe that the dps should be substantially different. Just to remind people, that if a serious discussion about the merits of DDAs affecting fighters should take place, one has to take into account every single role that a carrier can fill at the moment, and how that would change.
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 963	Posted - 2013.07.09 20:18:00 - [15] - Quote Dark Drifter wrote: everyone seems to have missed the point that a fighter is not a drone... all the mods on your ship are directly connected to you. (including drones) a fighter / FB is a piloted craft it for all intensive purposes is an autonomous craft. the only reason you can order it around is because its pilot follows your orders. supers and carriers get bonuses to fighters/FBs because they already have the hardware built in. (no mods needed) think of the drone control unit as having an extra launch tube installed on your ship Mostly agree with this but I'd actually like to Carriers bonus applying to all drones and not just fighters. removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Radhe Amatin Caldari High Prime SpaceMonkey's Alliance 22	Posted - 2013.07.10 07:09:00 - [16] - Quote Both sentries and fighter have their uses...... Sentries are good if u want your carrier on grid to shot stuff ... as for fighters you can always sit 0 on the station or nose out of pos in a carrier and assign fighters to your friends or to your alt do go ratting or what ever they or you want to do in system.
Asa Shahni Tainted Dragons Drunk 'n' Disorderly 0	Posted - 2013.07.10 14:31:00 - [17] - Quote I dont see the point ...if we do it we will have to deal with disposable carrier blob ...just like you do with supers now but 10 times bigger and 10 times cheaper ..PL has enough toys to play with as it is
Lee Dalton Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 33	Posted - 2013.07.20 23:31:00 - [18] - Quote Asa Shahni wrote: I dont see the point ...if we do it we will have to deal with disposable carrier blob ...just like you do with supers now but 10 times bigger and 10 times cheaper ..PL has enough toys to play with as it is Carriers are the new Domi.
Ellendras Silver The Scope Gallente Federation 65	Posted - 2013.07.21 00:24:00 - [19] - Quote Drake Doe wrote: Omnathious Deninard wrote: Drake Doe wrote: Omnathious Deninard wrote: DDAs no, fighter damage is fine. All the rest and rigs, yes they should effect fighters also. Oh it's absolutely fine, since fighters hardly out dps sentries besides on the thanatos Carrier with 15 sentries, 900dps + 2 DDAs 1287dps Carrier with 15 fighters 1500dps So a few hundred dps which can be negated by flight time if the target is more than a few km away, not to mention how easy it is to carry spare sentries compared to spare fighters. Edit: I probably shouldn't comment on something I haven't used firsthand, but I trust what people in my corp and alliance say about drones and fighters. ofc but with sentries you are a sitting duck as you cant move
Ellendras Silver The Scope Gallente Federation 65	Posted - 2013.07.21 00:27:00 - [20] - Quote Asa Shahni wrote: I dont see the point ...if we do it we will have to deal with disposable carrier blob ...just like you do with supers now but 10 times bigger and 10 times cheaper ..PL has enough toys to play with as it is yeah dont do it because of PL dumbest reason i heard so far.... PL has so many caps it realy doesnt matter how or what they can outblob anything.
Arthur Aihaken The.VOID 85	Posted - 2013.07.21 00:34:00 - [21] - Quote You mean carriers might actually be used like... well, carriers? ;)
Lee Dalton Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 34	Posted - 2013.07.27 14:19:00 - [22] - Quote Ellendras Silver wrote: Drake Doe wrote: Omnathious Deninard wrote: Drake Doe wrote: Omnathious Deninard wrote: DDAs no, fighter damage is fine. All the rest and rigs, yes they should effect fighters also. Oh it's absolutely fine, since fighters hardly out dps sentries besides on the thanatos Carrier with 15 sentries, 900dps + 2 DDAs 1287dps Carrier with 15 fighters 1500dps So a few hundred dps which can be negated by flight time if the target is more than a few km away, not to mention how easy it is to carry spare sentries compared to spare fighters. Edit: I probably shouldn't comment on something I haven't used firsthand, but I trust what people in my corp and alliance say about drones and fighters. ofc but with sentries you are a sitting duck as you cant move Abandon them and drop new ones. Do you know how large dronebays are?
Emma Yobibit Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 34	Posted - 2013.07.27 14:32:00 - [23] - Quote Carriers are there for the reps, then cant stack drone damage amps. I say add modifers so you can put fittings on the figthers it self, ether then that ship modules would be useless anyways because players would just fit another neut samrtbomb, cap recharge sensor booster, resistance hardner and so on
Alizebeth Phoenix Ministry of War Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.07.27 16:18:00 - [24] - Quote Drone mods to Fighters no. They would be to much buffed. I think they need a little buff, but not so much. When we speak about appliying damage to ships, sentries are better right now then fighters, they just need 2-3 dda and 2 omnis. They hit better and don't need to travel.

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