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cerbus
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
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Posted - 2013.07.09 13:22:00 -
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I have converted and uploaded all the resources for the four main race's ships along with different versions of the textures which will help you start modelling ships in a 3d program. This project is still in progress with an interface, zips, resources, an interface, directory access, and other cool stuff soonGäó
Folder Structure The ship's folder structure is exactly the same as you would find in the client files on on the eve cdn, including manufacturer variants. ie. www.caldariprimeponyclub.com/res/dx9/model/ship/%race%/%shipclass%/%shipid%/%files%
Material Copyright All files, converted or otherwise are the property of CCP Games.
Unadulterated Original Texture Files
- ?_d.dds - diffuse map in direct draw surface format
- ?_n.dds - normal map in direct draw surface format
- ?_pgs.dds - PGS map in direct draw surface format (Red=Mask, Green=Specular, Blue=SubMask, Alpha=Glow)
- decal_?_os.dds - Ambient Occlusion/ Displacement map in direct draw surface format (for decals)
- decal_?_d.dds - diffuse map in direct draw surface format (for decals)
3d File Formats
- ?_?.gr2 - 3d model in the original Granny2 format, full detail
- ?_?_mediumdetail.gr2 - 3d model in the original Granny2 format, medium detail
- ?_?_lowdetail.gr2 - 3d model in the original Granny2 format, low detail
- ?_?.obj - 3d model in Wavefront format, full detail (for importing into a 3d program or for webgl rendering)
- ?_?_mediumdetail.obj - 3d model in Wavefront format, medium detail
- ?_?_lowdetail.obj - 3d model in Wavefront format, low detail
- ?_?.wgl - 3d model in webgl format, full detail coming soon
- ?_?.3ds - 3d model in 3dsmax format, full detail coming soon
Unadulterated Original Texture Files
- ?_?.black - original unadulterated .black files
- ?_?.json - converted .black files, human readable (this is where you get the colour details)
- ?_?.cppc - easily readable colour and shader settings coming soon
Image files
- ?_?_d.png - diffuse map in png format, unaltered composition
- ?_?_n.png - normal map in png format, unaltered composition
- ?_?_pgs.png - PGS map in png format, unaltered composition (Red=Mask, Green=Specular, Blue=SubMask, Alpha=Glow)
- ?_?_diffuse.tga - diffuse map, flipped 180 degrees
- ?_?_specular.tga - specular map, flipped 180 degrees
- ?_?_normal.tga - normal map, flipped 180 degrees, correct colour channels for displacement maps
- ?_?_normalgreen.tga - displacement map, flipped 180 degrees
- ?_?_normalred.tga - displacement map, flipped 180 degrees
- ?_?_mask.tga - mask map, flipped 180 degrees
- ?_?_submask.tga - submask map, flipped 180 degrees (you may need to invert this channel)
- ?_?_glow.tga - glow map, flipped 180 degrees
- decal_?_os.png - unaltered Ambient Occlusion/ Displacement map in direct draw surface format (for decals)
- decal_?_d.png - unaltered diffuse map in direct draw surface format (for decals)
- decal_?_diffuse.png - diffuse map in direct draw surface format flipped 180 degrees (for decals)
Hopefully save you some time. :| Ship Customisation Survey - www.tinyurl.com/cppcsurvey |

cerbus
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
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Posted - 2013.07.09 13:24:00 -
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cerbus
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
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Posted - 2013.07.09 13:24:00 -
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reserved
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Heimdallofasgard
Apex Overplayed Coalition Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2013.07.09 14:10:00 -
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Awesome stuff dude!
Any advice for those people who want to import them into solidworks? Would've thought you can import .obj or .3ds files but just checked and don't think you can... you can import .step files :S just converting it to that I think. |

Liu Ellens
Blame The Bunny The Dark Nation
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Posted - 2013.07.09 14:40:00 -
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wow - amazing! I see now why why you were asking for the .wgl to .red converter. Any progress on that front?
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AzAkiR NaLDa
Real Simple Construction The Citadel Consortium
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:23:00 -
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Nice work. This saves alot of time. And allows easy access for people to toy around with it. Inglorious ****** :) |

cerbus
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:32:00 -
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Liu Ellens wrote:wow - amazing! I see now why why you were asking for the .wgl to .red converter. Any progress on that front?
Nope, can't even identify what format it is. There are no signatures in the files for some reason - maybe they're propriety? Annoyed a dev or two, some mumbling about exporting them was made.
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cerbus
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
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Posted - 2013.07.12 07:00:00 -
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Converting all the other eve models to the same formats, will be uploading this weekend. :| Ship Customisation Survey - www.tinyurl.com/cppcsurvey |

cerbus
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
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Posted - 2013.07.18 09:12:00 -
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Found that a lot of the older models couldn't be converted, or converted incorrectly. Only the updated models or those with the PGS texturing method will have all the versions listed above. :| Ship Customisation Survey - www.tinyurl.com/cppcsurvey |

Marne Deville
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.07.19 03:06:00 -
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Definitely looking forward to this!
Cheers. Marne |
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cerbus
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
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Posted - 2013.07.20 16:01:00 -
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Marne Deville wrote:Definitely looking forward to this!
Cheers. Marne
Still uploading.... 20KB/s :3 :| Ship Customisation Survey - www.tinyurl.com/cppcsurvey |

Marne Deville
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Posted - 2013.07.20 19:01:00 -
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Once you get it to a stable release, let me know if you are interested in me running a mirror for you.
Cheers. Marne |

Yosh Maken
Tough Crowd
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Posted - 2013.07.21 03:20:00 -
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Finally! I can have the space battles I have always wanted on my living room floor without having to deal with you people :P
Good job man, very nicely done. I can't wait to see what people come up with, using what you put out there. Yosh Maken CEO Tough Crowd |

Altair Teyax
Ubuntu Inc. The Fourth District
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Posted - 2013.07.21 14:20:00 -
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I have an issue with non-Amarr ship textures, such as the diffuse map. Amarr diffuse maps are generally slightly gold/brown, but all the other diffuse maps I have seen are simply a neutral grey. Why is this? Is there a way to find colored versions (even the civilian ones) to view in a 3D modeling software? |

Marne Deville
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Posted - 2013.07.22 22:34:00 -
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I'm still trying to figure out how to get the red stripes on the Rook, Crow, etc.... sooner or later I'll figure it out heheh.
Cheers. Marne |

Craig Linford
Running with Knives Nexus Fleet
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:44:00 -
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Altair Teyax wrote:I have an issue with non-Amarr ship textures, such as the diffuse map. Amarr diffuse maps are generally slightly gold/brown, but all the other diffuse maps I have seen are simply a neutral grey. Why is this? Is there a way to find colored versions (even the civilian ones) to view in a 3D modeling software?
That is was the Sub_Mask and Mask layers are for. You can get the colour for them in BLACK file. Can't remember where off the top of my head. |

Craig Linford
Running with Knives Nexus Fleet
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:46:00 -
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Marne Deville wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how to get the red stripes on the Rook, Crow, etc.... sooner or later I'll figure it out heheh.
Cheers. Marne
Me 2... |

Marne Deville
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:42:00 -
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Craig Linford wrote:Marne Deville wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how to get the red stripes on the Rook, Crow, etc.... sooner or later I'll figure it out heheh.
Cheers. Marne Me 2...
Figured it out :) What you need to do (for the Rook, at least), is open this file:
dx9\model\ship\caldari\cruiser\cc4\kaalakiota\cc4_t1_kaalakiota_pgs.dds
Take the blue channel from that image .... those are your stripes :) Other ships, like the Crow, are probably done in the same way.
Cheers. Marne |

cerbus
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
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Posted - 2013.07.24 11:32:00 -
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Marne Deville wrote:Craig Linford wrote:Marne Deville wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how to get the red stripes on the Rook, Crow, etc.... sooner or later I'll figure it out heheh.
Cheers. Marne Me 2... Figured it out :) What you need to do (for the Rook, at least), is open this file: dx9\model\ship\caldari\cruiser\cc4\kaalakiota\cc4_t1_kaalakiota_pgs.dds Take the blue channel from that image .... those are your stripes :) Other ships, like the Crow, are probably done in the same way. Cheers. Marne
Soz, don't have time to explain in greater detail, but you can find this information elsewhere. Below is a quick run down of setting up the diffuse layer for a ship, which requires you to create a composition of multiple textures:
[Description of a Diffuse Composition] Top layer = the hull's *_diffuse + submask RBG colours + mask Layer: *_submask Middle Layer = the hull's*_diffuse + mask RGB colours + mask Layer : *_mask Bottom Layer = the hull's*_diffuse + diffuse RGB colours
Some manufacturer variants have their own mask, submask, specular and glow maps. If they don't exist in the manufacturer's folder for that ship, use the t1 version, if there isn't even any t1 versio Ship Customisation Survey - www.tinyurl.com/cppcsurvey Eve 3d Modelling Resources - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=257193 |

Incizion
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Posted - 2013.07.24 21:53:00 -
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cerbus, thanks for all the effort you've put into this.
I've been playing around with models for awhile now, but as far as colors are concerned, I mostly just eyeball them for my ships. I've looked at the JSON files, but cannot for the life of me figure out how to translate the color values in it to colors that actually make sense. Any chance you can enlighten me?
Thanks! |
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AzAkiR NaLDa
Real Simple Construction The Citadel Consortium
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Posted - 2013.07.24 22:54:00 -
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if you are doing it in 3ds max the simple way of doing it would be to use color correction. or make use of the output rollout in the bottom of the used bitmap.
If you are using the output way you can just keep the numbers as they are shown in the json file.
if you use the color correction method it is a bit more work.
Instead of adding the texture directly into the composition slot you add the color correction map and then in that map you add the required texture.
scroll down in the color correction map and search for the advanced tickbox. select that and scroll further down to tick the boxes R, G and B.
Then in the boxes next to it you'll see the gain level from 0-1000%
in order to use the color codes of the json file now you need to multiply that number by 100.
so for instance 0.01253759 would become 1.253759 in the color correction map.
hope this helps you a bit Inglorious ****** :) |

Incizion
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Posted - 2013.07.25 05:13:00 -
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Azakir - thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I do most of my renders in Blender, and what you're describing doesn't quite translate. :)
Right now I'm working on a render of a Manticore - which I've been able to do with some success on my own, but again I'm eyeballing the color of the orange-yellow submask. So since I'm pretty familiar with that model, we'll use that as an example
Now, looking at the JSON file (http://elios.co.nz/res/dx9/model/ship/caldari/frigate/cf6/cf6_t2.json), I see this for the SubMaskDiffuseColor:
Quote: { "__i": 15, "__t": "Tr2Vector4Parameter", "name": "SubMaskDiffuseColor", "value": [ 0.3568628, 0.3568628, 0.3568628, 1 ] },
Actually, doing trial and error, I think I've figured out that you can translate these into RGB values by multiplying these guys by 255. So that solves that problem. However....
I think it's pretty obvious that in the example JSON up there, this is a gray, so it would seem to me that I'm looking in the wrong place in the JSON file for the Manticore's yellow color. However, looking through the rest of the file, I don't see any color value that follows your typical pattern of a yellow (high red and green, little-to-no blue). So I still seem to be missing some critical piece of information here. |

AzAkiR NaLDa
Real Simple Construction The Citadel Consortium
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Posted - 2013.07.25 06:08:00 -
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Try to look for the manufacturer's pgs file. The t2 hulls require the texturing and coloring from that specific hull otherwise colors will not match Inglorious ****** :) |

Incizion
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:39:00 -
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Ah, good idea. Thanks for the tip!
Edit: For clarification, the pgs for the Manticore is in the normal cf6_t2.pgs file, however I think you may be onto something using the .black files from one of the manufacturers. |

cerbus
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:11:00 -
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Incizion wrote:Ah, good idea. Thanks for the tip!
Edit: For clarification, the pgs for the Manticore is in the normal cf6_t2.pgs file, however I think you may be onto something using the .black files from one of the manufacturers.
use this one: http://elios.co.nz/res/dx9/model/ship/caldari/frigate/cf6/laidai/cf6_t2_laidai.json
:)
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Altair Teyax
Ubuntu Inc. The Fourth District
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:24:00 -
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Craig Linford wrote:Altair Teyax wrote:I have an issue with non-Amarr ship textures, such as the diffuse map. Amarr diffuse maps are generally slightly gold/brown, but all the other diffuse maps I have seen are simply a neutral grey. Why is this? Is there a way to find colored versions (even the civilian ones) to view in a 3D modeling software? That is was the Sub_Mask and Mask layers are for. You can get the colour for them in BLACK file. Can't remember where off the top of my head.
Does anyone know how I can get these layers from the BLACK file? |

AzAkiR NaLDa
Real Simple Construction The Citadel Consortium
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Posted - 2013.07.29 08:49:00 -
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The mask and submask layer images come from the pgs texture. The colors for these layers are found in the json file. Which is the converted black file. The black or json files only contain coloring information for each part and layer. The rest is al made with the image files. Inglorious ****** :) |

Az Tek
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.29 09:14:00 -
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Great work =) Fight, Fly, Crow... Bangerang |

cerbus
www.caldariprimeponyclub.com
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Posted - 2013.08.03 16:51:00 -
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Will be uploading almost all the hulls in ccp's webgl format this weekend hopefully  Thanks [CCP]Bracari !! Ship Customisation Survey - www.tinyurl.com/cppcsurvey Eve 3d Modelling Resources - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=257193 |

AzAkiR NaLDa
Real Simple Construction The Citadel Consortium
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Posted - 2013.08.03 18:18:00 -
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hmm trying to grab the json file for the nyx isnt working ??
http://elios.co.nz/res/dx9/model/ship/gallente/carrier/gca1/gca1_t1.json
that is the link i used but getting
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